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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:50 pm

Luveria wrote:
Paixao wrote:Whoever is saying "yes" ("seriously", not satirically) is either is fully aware they have no conscience whatsoever - and are, ergo, a total psychopath - or is not aware of how the look of a strangled child slowly dying by their hands will haunt them at night for years to come.


I certainly hope no one is saying yes seriously. I expect those would be the type of people to not have a problem with torturing animals.

Obviously you wouldn't strangle kids to death. You'd find a younger patient dying of cancer and euthanize them. Simple, not especially morally wrong and not traumatizing for either party.
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:08 pm

Luveria wrote:What is the maximum age range we are using for the purposes of deciding who is or isn't a child? It would be helpful knowing how wide the selection of possible targets would be, otherwise one would have to find out the age limits through a process of trial and error.

We are using the legal definition of a child, which could differ in different countries and change as the laws changed.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:11 pm

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Luveria wrote:What is the maximum age range we are using for the purposes of deciding who is or isn't a child? It would be helpful knowing how wide the selection of possible targets would be, otherwise one would have to find out the age limits through a process of trial and error.

We are using the legal definition of a child, which could differ in different countries and change as the laws changed.

So, I could kill a 17 year old gang member instead of a 5 year old girl? I don't see why not...
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Postby Vareiln » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:12 pm

You know what, can we just not have these threads with vague hypotheticals?

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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:13 pm

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Crownariam wrote:We are using the legal definition of a child, which could differ in different countries and change as the laws changed.

So, I could kill a 17 year old gang member instead of a 5 year old girl? I don't see why not...

I never said anything to the contrary did I?
Vareiln wrote:You know what, can we just not have these threads with vague hypotheticals?

That is not going to happen.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:17 pm

Vareiln wrote:You know what, can we just not have these threads with vague hypotheticals?


They are really too vague to work with.

It doesn't specify if accidentally killing a child counts. It doesn't specify if ranged assassinations count. It doesn't specify if killing children by proxy such as hiring hitmen to kill children counts. It isn't specificed if convincing a child to commit suicide counts as having killed them.
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:20 pm

Luveria wrote:
Vareiln wrote:You know what, can we just not have these threads with vague hypotheticals?


They are really too vague to work with.

It doesn't specify if accidentally killing a child counts. It doesn't specify if ranged assassinations count. It doesn't specify if killing children by proxy such as hiring hitmen to kill children counts.

Is it dead? Would it have remained alive if you didn't exist? It could be something like you hired someone to hire someone to hire a hit-man to kill the child. It is dead, and it would have remained alive if it wasn't for your actions. I'm going to add that to the OP.
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Postby Dracoria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:21 pm

Luveria wrote:
Vareiln wrote:You know what, can we just not have these threads with vague hypotheticals?


They are really too vague to work with.

It doesn't specify if accidentally killing a child counts. It doesn't specify if ranged assassinations count. It doesn't specify if killing children by proxy such as hiring hitmen to kill children counts. It isn't specificed if convincing a child to commit suicide counts as having killed them.


Wait a second, do abortions count?

Are the attempts to kill abortion practitioners really directed by some secret society, to stop the surfacing of a new and terrible godling?
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:24 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
They are really too vague to work with.

It doesn't specify if accidentally killing a child counts. It doesn't specify if ranged assassinations count. It doesn't specify if killing children by proxy such as hiring hitmen to kill children counts. It isn't specificed if convincing a child to commit suicide counts as having killed them.


Wait a second, do abortions count?

Are the attempts to kill abortion practitioners really directed by some secret society, to stop the surfacing of a new and terrible godling?


Abortions would only count in countries which legally consider the aborted human to be a child.

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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:26 pm

Luveria wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
Wait a second, do abortions count?

Are the attempts to kill abortion practitioners really directed by some secret society, to stop the surfacing of a new and terrible godling?


Abortions would only count in countries which legally consider the aborted human to be a child.

I was just about to answer when I saw that post. Luveria is right.

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Postby JuNii » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:29 pm

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Al Horeya wrote:...what? Humanity is not the source of value. A monkey may value bananas. That is true whether humans exist or not. Besides, if anything, it puts the individual at the helm: whether humanity is of value or not depends on whether said individual values others. I, too, am a lover of knowledge. If the OP read "Would you strangle strange children in order to become hyperintelligent," my only question would be the chances of my being caught. Why? Because I value knowledge and intelligence more than I value strangers.

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Crownariam wrote:1. Their current IQ is added to yours.
2. The area that they are smart in, and their skills. For example kill a sword prodigy, you are now a sword prodigy.
3. Depends on how smart you are.
4. You choose

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They are really too vague to work with.

It doesn't specify if accidentally killing a child counts. It doesn't specify if ranged assassinations count. It doesn't specify if killing children by proxy such as hiring hitmen to kill children counts. It isn't specificed if convincing a child to commit suicide counts as having killed them.

It still counts.


Wha... Uh... That sounds like, "they raised the min weight for obesity... So I'm skinny now."

If I understand the gist of the question... No, I wouldn't.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:30 pm

No. Murder is wrong and should not happen
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:36 pm

A better question would be, how quickly would the world descend into chaos if everyone was informed they will now become smarter by killing children?

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Postby Dracoria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Luveria wrote:A better question would be, how quickly would the world descend into chaos if everyone was informed they will now become smarter by killing children?


On the other hand, think of all the money freed from the education budget.
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Postby Vareiln » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:38 pm

Luveria wrote:A better question would be, how quickly would the world descend into chaos if everyone was informed they will now become smarter by killing children?

I think you'd find that the definition of the word "children" would be extended.

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Postby Dracoria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:38 pm

Luveria wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
Wait a second, do abortions count?

Are the attempts to kill abortion practitioners really directed by some secret society, to stop the surfacing of a new and terrible godling?


Abortions would only count in countries which legally consider the aborted human to be a child.


Wait a second. Wouldn't this give pro-life regions a huge advantage?
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:45 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Abortions would only count in countries which legally consider the aborted human to be a child.


Wait a second. Wouldn't this give pro-life regions a huge advantage?

I don't know, would it?

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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:47 pm

Vareiln wrote:
Luveria wrote:A better question would be, how quickly would the world descend into chaos if everyone was informed they will now become smarter by killing children?

I think you'd find that the definition of the word "children" would be extended.


I think you would find Kim Jong-un would rapidly become the smartest person alive since he would have absolutely no initial deterrents in place to stop him from executing any number of children in North Korea.

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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:12 pm

New Frenco Empire wrote:
Crownariam wrote:We are using the legal definition of a child, which could differ in different countries and change as the laws changed.

So, I could kill a 17 year old gang member instead of a 5 year old girl? I don't see why not...


Sounds like the child killer version of Dexter.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:19 pm

Luveria wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:So, I could kill a 17 year old gang member instead of a 5 year old girl? I don't see why not...


Sounds like the child killer version of Dexter.

Eh, perhaps, but this stupid hypothetical plays out in too many ways. I mean, most people would have a big problem with suffocating a sleeping toddler with a pillow, but not accidentally killing a teenager (who turns 18 the next day) with their car after finding out he just got back from raping and murdering a girl in a back-alley.
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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:24 pm

Well, according to Baby Geniuses, babies possess the knowledge of the universe so...

HELL YES, I'd kill a thousand babies if it means ABSOLUTE POWAAAHHHH!!!! POWAAAHHHH!!! *lightning shooting out from fingertips*

Besides, I'd be sparing the thousand babies from the misery and drudgery of existence. This is the greatest service I can do for ME ME ME ME!!! MUWAHAHAHAHA

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Postby The Free Kingdom of Proprius » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:34 am

Of course... Think of the possibilities!

If I could kill 1,000 children and absorb their IQ's, I would hypothetically have the ability to rapidly assimilate the information required to cure both cancer and AIDS. That means I could immediately *make up for* the dead children by saving many more lives than the ones that I'd consume. I could continue doing this, solving the worlds problems. I could engineer a set of circumstances to make sure humanity never leaves the planet earth, possibly saving the whole galaxy from the malicious potential of humanity in space.

This is assuming that the increase in knowledge wouldn't drive me insane or cause me to make a realization so brutal and immense that I would kill myself.

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Postby DrakoLand » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:26 am

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:32 am

Esternial wrote:I'd become an abortion doctor.

That was easy. Except embryos and early fetuses are more to microbes, and late fetuses more to primitive chordates/tetrapods/mammals, than to babies.
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Postby Vurdenburg » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:41 am

It would depend who the child is, and how valuable they are.
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