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Utceforp
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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:01 pm

Yugo-Austria wrote:
Utceforp wrote:There are plenty of children dying from, say, an incurable disease, all the time. I would just find them, end their suffering, use my newfound intelligence to refine the process so that ape children, monkey children or rat children could be used instead, and then go from there.

good idea

Yeah, once I get smart enough to find a way to kill cells grown in a lab to achieve the same intelligence-boosting result, I would just automate the whole process, then start raising the intelligence of everyone willing by systematically growing and then killing bacteria.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:01 pm

The United Communist Solar Republic wrote:
Pyre Raiders2 wrote:Yes, I would. If I were able to use that knowledge for the betterment of society and the human population as a whole, I would do so with little hesitation. I would be willing to carry the burden of also knowing that I am a monster who killed an innocent child. But, I would repent in a way that makes it so no other suffers, ever again. It would benefit humanity and the populations of all other animalistic, insectoid, and such life on the earth. If I were in that child's place, and someone could murder me to do the above, I would want them to murder me. I am but one life compared to the possible benefit of billions now, and billions to come.


Now imagine that child crying, screaming, and kicking, possibly pleading with you to stop, and you holding a knife to that child's throat about to murder it, and tell me again how you would kill it with 'little hesitation'. I mean seriously, you would not be able to go through with it, and you know it. Even to benefit humanity. And if you did, the guilt would more than likely be too much to bear. Unless you were some heartless beast of course. Which I suspect the majority of the people here aren't/

Ted Bundy did that in 1978 with no problems. And his catch was pretty hot too.

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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:02 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
The United Communist Solar Republic wrote:
Now imagine that child crying, screaming, and kicking, possibly pleading with you to stop, and you holding a knife to that child's throat about to murder it, and tell me again how you would kill it with 'little hesitation'. I mean seriously, you would not be able to go through with it, and you know it. Even to benefit humanity. And if you did, the guilt would more than likely be too much to bear. Unless you were some heartless beast of course. Which I suspect the majority of the people here aren't/

Ted Bundy did that in 1978 with no problems. And his catch was pretty hot too.

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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:03 pm

The United Communist Solar Republic wrote:
Pyre Raiders2 wrote:Yes, I would. If I were able to use that knowledge for the betterment of society and the human population as a whole, I would do so with little hesitation. I would be willing to carry the burden of also knowing that I am a monster who killed an innocent child. But, I would repent in a way that makes it so no other suffers, ever again. It would benefit humanity and the populations of all other animalistic, insectoid, and such life on the earth. If I were in that child's place, and someone could murder me to do the above, I would want them to murder me. I am but one life compared to the possible benefit of billions now, and billions to come.


Now imagine that child crying, screaming, and kicking, possibly pleading with you to stop, and you holding a knife to that child's throat about to murder it, and tell me again how you would kill it with 'little hesitation'. I mean seriously, you would not be able to go through with it, and you know it. Even to benefit humanity. And if you did, the guilt would more than likely be too much to bear. Unless you were some heartless beast of course. Which I suspect the majority of the people here aren't/

Step 1: Do it while they're asleep, using a drug, not a knife, and only do it to children who are dying from a currently incurable disease or otherwise willing to die. Step 2: Use your intelligence to find a way to use young animals rather than young children. Step 3: Genius-filled Utopian society.
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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:04 pm

Yugo-Austria wrote:
Vareiln wrote:Hahaha no, no.

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berserker invasion homie

Stop spamming.
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:06 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Yugo-Austria wrote:(Image)(Image)(Image)
berserker invasion homie

Stop spamming.

sorry was gonna do a charge to end it all but i guess its been thwarted
how about just one
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:06 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Yugo-Austria wrote:yup I'm high and I say random shit so they take cracks at me

I suggest you get off this forum until you can calm down, for your own good. I am not a moderator, but there are moderators and your behavior in this thread is liable to get you warned or banned. I'm telling people not to respond to you because that just makes it more complicated for the mods.
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Exactly. I've got too much pride for this sort of thing. I'm already the smartest. I just need more information. MOAR INFORMATION.

You're the smartest person? I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of extremely smart people out there. You probably aren't the smartest.


Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:07 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Shaggai wrote:I suggest you get off this forum until you can calm down, for your own good. I am not a moderator, but there are moderators and your behavior in this thread is liable to get you warned or banned. I'm telling people not to respond to you because that just makes it more complicated for the mods.
You're the smartest person? I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of extremely smart people out there. You probably aren't the smartest.


Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.

i send my berzerkers to support your point
you are the smartest man on this forum
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Crumlark wrote:No. I shouldn't advertise. Ads are bad.

It would just be a one time thing....
I'll just search for it later.
On topic: It said children, it didn't specify what kind of children.

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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Yugo-Austria wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.

i send my berzerkers to support your point
you are the smartest man on this forum
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Is this mod-worthy?
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:09 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Yugo-Austria wrote:i send my berzerkers to support your point
you are the smartest man on this forum
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Is this mod-worthy?

sorry.
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:09 pm

Yugo-Austria wrote:
Utceforp wrote:Is this mod-worthy?

sorry.

testing my GIFs
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Postby Timothia » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:09 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Timothia wrote:I am afraid of taking the enormous risk that you could actually plunge the world into a worse place than it is already in. It is a big freaking risk to take, and I wouldn't trust you to use your knowledge in the right way.

It's not that I don't want people to make the world a better place, I just don't think it is worth the risk involved in this scenario.


you have a suspicious mind...

there's every incentive to make the world a better place under the capitalist structure.

I have every right to be suspicious that (if you are willing to kill a child in the name of science, knowledge, and the "greater good") you would not handle the knowledge very responsibly. That's not a knock on you, I don't think that I would be able to handle it very well either. We are people. We want to be good, but we often fall short. I wouldn't want my shortcomings to potentially cost the lives of millions of people if I misuse my genius. I am -and always will be - suspicious of the level of self-control and morals possessed by a person who has no qualms with killing a child.
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Postby Vareiln » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:09 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Shaggai wrote:I suggest you get off this forum until you can calm down, for your own good. I am not a moderator, but there are moderators and your behavior in this thread is liable to get you warned or banned. I'm telling people not to respond to you because that just makes it more complicated for the mods.
You're the smartest person? I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of extremely smart people out there. You probably aren't the smartest.


Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.

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Postby Vetalia » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:10 pm

This whole thread is fucked.
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Is Yugo-Austria a child? If so, hmm...

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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Timothia wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
you have a suspicious mind...

there's every incentive to make the world a better place under the capitalist structure.

I have every right to be suspicious that (if you are willing to kill a child in the name of science, knowledge, and the "greater good") you would not handle the knowledge very responsibly. That's not a knock on you, I don't think that I would be able to handle it very well either. We are people. We want to be good, but we often fall short. I wouldn't want my shortcomings to potentially cost the lives of millions of people if I misuse my genius. I am -and always will be - suspicious of the level of self-control and morals possessed by a person who has no qualms with killing a child.
Sorry for the late reply, dinnertime is over now.

I thought you were going to leave because of the "disgust"
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:12 pm

Crownariam wrote:Is Yugo-Austria a child? If so, hmm...

Hmm, perhaps we should think of this over retarded remarks and spam again
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Postby Shaggai » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:13 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Shaggai wrote:I suggest you get off this forum until you can calm down, for your own good. I am not a moderator, but there are moderators and your behavior in this thread is liable to get you warned or banned. I'm telling people not to respond to you because that just makes it more complicated for the mods.
You're the smartest person? I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of extremely smart people out there. You probably aren't the smartest.


Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.

Sure that you aren't corrupted either?

Also, the sample size of "people whose intelligence you are aware of" is statistically insignificant. I hope you know that.
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:13 pm

Gorgashia wrote:What do you think, OP? Can we have your opinion on this?

My opinion: No. Read a book or something of you want to be more intelligent.

I have siblings, I'd wait until the thing wouldn't work on them. That way I wouldn't hurt them if I was to go mad with the power that the knowledge gave me.

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Postby Timsvill » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:13 pm

If their robots! then yes, if not. hell no! It's like taking a gun to a school and killing 1st graders! Its not right!
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Postby Crownariam » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:15 pm

Crownariam wrote:
Gorgashia wrote:What do you think, OP? Can we have your opinion on this?

My opinion: No. Read a book or something of you want to be more intelligent.

I have siblings, I'd wait until the thing wouldn't work on them. That way I wouldn't hurt them if I was to go mad with the power that the knowledge gave me.

*when I went mad

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Postby Utceforp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:16 pm

Crownariam wrote:
Crownariam wrote:I have siblings, I'd wait until the thing wouldn't work on them. That way I wouldn't hurt them if I was to go mad with the power that the knowledge gave me.

*when I went mad

You think knowledge will inevitably drive people mad? Don't be so anti-intellectual. Mad scientists don't exist in real life, you know. Except for Heinrich Himmler, but he really wasn't much of a scientist anyway.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:17 pm

Shaggai wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Correction: Smartest person uncorrupted by either modern or traditional foolishness. That I am currently aware of.

Sure that you aren't corrupted either?

Also, the sample size of "people whose intelligence you are aware of" is statistically insignificant. I hope you know that.


But it is all that is relevant. I don't want to be the smartest on an absolute scale. Just smarter than those around me.
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Postby With Teeth » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:17 pm

Yes.
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