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An All-Natural Nation
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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:45 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:"Evidence" is not important. What is important is that natural medicine heals me, and can heal the world.

That's nice dear. The rest of us will demand scientific evidence.

"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html
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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:45 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:Common sense dictates that you are not a magical purple unicorn.


And common sense is against Homeopathy. Whats your point?

It's only against common sense after you have been indoctrinated from birth by the allopath megacorps and the shills that they buy and pay for.
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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:45 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:That's nice dear. The rest of us will demand scientific evidence.

"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html

Which is why science never advances and why we still think ulcers aren't caused by a type of bacteria.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:46 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:That's nice dear. The rest of us will demand scientific evidence.

"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html



Do you know what peer review actually is?
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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:46 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
And I'm a magical purple unicorn.
Evidence of that isn't important.
Do you believe me?

Common sense dictates that you are not a magical purple unicorn.

Nope. He has unicorn with purple hair as his avatar and forum avatars resemble what people are in RL due to quantum magnetic effect and the thought experiment carried out by German cat expert, Schrodinger. Therefore, he must be purple unicorn.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:46 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:It's all bullshit and anybody with credibility knows it.

If something works, then it is actual medicine, not this hippie tree hugger bullshit.

Natural medicine (like homoeopathy, herbalism, Ayurveda, reflexology, Reiki, and Traditional Chinese Medicine) is the only "actual medicine".

The only herbalism that really works is a good joint, in my experience.

Also, I am fairly certain Vicodin is actual medicine, and that isn't any of those.

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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:46 pm

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Ostroeuropa wrote:And common sense is against Homeopathy. Whats your point?

It's only against common sense after you have been indoctrinated from birth by the allopath megacorps and the shills that they buy and pay for.

Diluting something a lot does not make anything stronger, common sense says that. Your point?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:46 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
And common sense is against Homeopathy. Whats your point?

It's only against common sense after you have been indoctrinated from birth by the allopath megacorps and the shills that they buy and pay for.


It's only against common sense after you have been indoctrinate from birth by the zoological academia bias and the shills that they buy and pay for.

So you accept that i'm a unicorn now?
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:48 pm

Homeopathy and alternative medicine is complete bullshit. It is nothing compared to modern medicine.
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Postby Murbleflip » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:48 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
And I'm a magical purple unicorn.
Evidence of that isn't important.
Do you believe me?

Common sense dictates that you are not a magical purple unicorn.

What. Is wrong with you. Common sense has nothing to do with it.

NOTHING YOU SAY CAN EVER CHANGE THE MONOLITHIC, UNCHANGING FACT OF OSTROEUROPA BEING A MAGICAL PURPLE UNICORN!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Murbleflip wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:Common sense dictates that you are not a magical purple unicorn.

What. Is wrong with you. Common sense has nothing to do with it.

NOTHING YOU SAY CAN EVER CHANGE THE MONOLITHIC, UNCHANGING FACT OF OSTROEUROPA BEING A MAGICAL PURPLE UNICORN!


I've claimed it in dozens of threads whenever this kind of argument comes up. If I were lying, i'd have tripped up by now, right?.
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Postby Shaggai » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:38 pm

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Shaggai wrote:Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?

Quantum physics.

http://www.cs.rug.nl/~michael/qthair.pdf
http://johnbenneth.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... omeopathy/

No, I said mechanism. "Quantum physics" isn't an explanation. It's a semantic stopsign.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:39 pm

When alternative medicine works we make it into actual medicine.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:41 pm

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Chishimotata wrote:Assertion =! evidence. Sorry.

"Evidence" is not important. What is important is that natural medicine heals me, and can heal the world.

When i had bad grades in Biology, I didn't convert into believing bullshit, I just found another discipline to suit me. I am deeply sorry if you dislike reality.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:41 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:"Evidence" is not important. What is important is that natural medicine heals me, and can heal the world.


When something is factually true you can find evidence of it.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:45 pm

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
And I'm a magical purple unicorn.
Evidence of that isn't important.
Do you believe me?

Common sense dictates that you are not a magical purple unicorn.

You know what your beloved ancient Greece also invented? Atomic theory, of course it was different, they believed in five elements which now turn out to be a compound, two molecules, something that isn't even a substance and something non-existent but they realized you can only divide things a finite number of times.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:47 pm

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Chishimotata wrote:That's nice dear. The rest of us will demand scientific evidence.

"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html

If it works then you should have evidence, that is how it works.
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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:

Then why doesn't water remember these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterborne_diseases

Because REASONS.

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Postby Avenio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:

Then why doesn't water remember these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterborne_diseases


Or the millions of years' worth of feces that's been floating in it.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:57 pm

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Chinese Regions wrote:Then why doesn't water remember these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterborne_diseases


Or the millions of years' worth of feces that's been floating in it.

Of course.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Y'all want an alternative for chemotheraphy? Radiotherapy
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Postby Vareiln » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:14 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:That's nice dear. The rest of us will demand scientific evidence.

"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html

You're using whale.to and a blog as sources.
What the fuck.

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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:23 pm

Fuck alternative medicine. I'm going to keep my anti-biotics, vaccinations, and cures. Why would you want to go in the opposite direction of progress?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:24 pm

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An All-Natural Nation wrote:"Scientific evidence" that has been censored by the so-called "peer review" process that is really just used as an opportunity to censor all medicine that the allo establishment disapproves of.

http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html#Ex ... alisation_
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/three-myt ... 2009/03/08
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy2.html

You're using whale.to and a blog as sources.
What the fuck.

I love how he called actual scientists the "allo establishment".
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