Alternative medicine

[Vazdania]

Q~Q I've been around the Earth on a cruise.....does that count?

No, the so called "Measurements" given by the scientific community are a plot to keep us flat earthers from being hired as geography professors.

Conspiracy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA

[Chishimotata]

And homeopathy does too.

Unfortunately, the pathological fixation on "evidence" is used to ignore any natural remedy that is known to heal people. The so called "peer review" process is used by the allopath establishment to suppress anything that shows that homoeopathy works. http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html

[2011 Oct] Shock vaccine study reveals influenza vaccines only prevent the flu in 1.5 out of 100 adults (not 60% as you've been told)

This is about 10 lines down from the top of the page you linked to. Yes, they say that vaccines are almost completely ineffective. Hmmm... how legit.

This is the site that has pages advocating Holocaust denialism. Make of that what you will.

[New Laikland]

http://www.medsci.org/

Knock yourself out.

It's not for me, it's for the other natural guy.

I don't really give a shit the whole way, this is a useless thread/argument.

[DesAnges]

Life and opinions are based on experience. All the liberals I've seen fit into my generalizations. So, neither.

Some of us recognise that our experiences with some people aren't generalisable to all people in a given group. But then, that's probably my dirty liberal attachment to facts showing.

Dammit Tim, you dirty liberal. Next you'll be socialising our health care and submitting to Stalin!

[Chinese Regions]

I'm not sure if traditional Chinese medicine would be considered "alternative", but most of it actually works. I would personally know. But maybe I'm biased, since I myself am Chinese.

As for other types (i.e. homeopathy), I highly doubt their effectiveness.

Homeopathy works through the energy of the original remedy that has been infused with the water through the water's memory. The obsession with "evidence" among the modern medicine industry is dangerous and should be discouraged.

Ok so let's say a guy says drinking piss cures cancer and doesn't provide evidence, who is the dangerous one? The people with sense asking for evidence or the guy telling people to drink piss?
If it works, you have nothing to lose, so prove it.

[Chishimotata]

Some of us recognise that our experiences with some people aren't generalisable to all people in a given group. But then, that's probably my dirty liberal attachment to facts showing.

Dammit Tim, you dirty liberal. Next you'll be socialising our health care and submitting to Stalin!

Des, did you make the daily goat sacrifice yet?

[New Laikland]

Ok so let's say a guy says drinking piss cures cancer and doesn't provide evidence, who is the dangerous one? The people with sense asking for evidence or the guy telling people to drink piss?
If it works, you have nothing to lose, so prove it.

Piss is rather sterile, so not him.

[DesAnges]

Dammit Tim, you dirty liberal. Next you'll be socialising our health care and submitting to Stalin!

Des, did you make the daily goat sacrifice yet?

Balls, no. I've only got a llama.

[Chishimotata]

Des, did you make the daily goat sacrifice yet?

Balls, no. I've only got a llama.

DAMN IT. You think Satan'll take the llama?

[Ifreann]

http://www.medsci.org/

Knock yourself out.

It's not for me, it's for the other natural guy.

I don't really give a shit the whole way, this is a useless thread/argument.

"I don't care, I just keep posting"

[Vazdania]

Des, did you make the daily goat sacrifice yet?

Balls, no. I've only got a llama.

Ah yes, thank goodness you only do goat sacrifices.....I thought I was going to need to protect my sheep.

[New Laikland]

Balls, no. I've only got a llama.

DAMN IT. You think Satan'll take the llama?

Don't worry, Satan loves cock too. Here, take my cock.

[New Laikland]

"I don't care, I just keep posting"

I can't resist to get involved in stupid arguments.

[Chinese Regions]

I sometimes drink herbal tea, with some good amount of lemonjuice and honey in it when I have a cold.

That counts as alternative medicine, right?

Well, we need to separate fantasy and reality; nature. People have been using wood bark to cure headaches for centuries because the molecules that make up wood bark happen to do it, we can synthesize the same substances artificially with modern science.
Wood bark actually cures headaches and we can study it. Chemicals in the food we eat exist and actually do something and we can study it. "Spirit" and massacres of proper scientific terms like "Quantum" and "Energy" do not exist, we can't study them.

[Chishimotata]

It's not for me, it's for the other natural guy.

I don't really give a shit the whole way, this is a useless thread/argument.

"I don't care, I just keep posting"

For that beautiful post count, right?

[New Laikland]

"I don't care, I just keep posting"

For that beautiful post count, right?

'erry day

[Chinese Regions]

Ok so let's say a guy says drinking piss cures cancer and doesn't provide evidence, who is the dangerous one? The people with sense asking for evidence or the guy telling people to drink piss?
If it works, you have nothing to lose, so prove it.

Piss is rather sterile, so not him.

What has that got to do with anything, drinking piss is dangerous.

[New Laikland]

What has that got to do with anything, drinking piss is dangerous.

no i have a phd, md, gc, ad, rd, lc and pg, i know all this shit. piss is very safe to drink, i assure you

[Vazdania]

Piss is rather sterile, so not him.

What has that got to do with anything, drinking piss is dangerous.

But....Bear Gryllz

[An All-Natural Nation]

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?

Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?

Quantum physics.

http://www.cs.rug.nl/~michael/qthair.pdf
http://johnbenneth.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... omeopathy/

[Chinese Regions]

One reason for the superiority of homoeopathy is that homoeopathic remedies never result in side effects.

Neither does drinking water, because that is all what homeopathy at the end of the day.
Though, it is possible to die of drinking too much water.

[Vazdania]

What has that got to do with anything, drinking piss is dangerous.

no i have a phd, md, gc, ad, rd, lc and pg, i know all this shit. piss is very safe to drink, i assure you

even with the amount of bacteria present?

[Chishimotata]

Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?

Quantum physics.

http://www.cs.rug.nl/~michael/qthair.pdf
http://johnbenneth.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... omeopathy/

Because quantum physics applies to macromolecules and not subatomic particles.

[New Laikland]

no i have a phd, md, gc, ad, rd, lc and pg, i know all this shit. piss is very safe to drink, i assure you

even with the amount of bacteria present?

Don't worry, I saw this on the internet. It's perfectly safe.

[Murbleflip]

Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?

Quantum physics.

http://www.cs.rug.nl/~michael/qthair.pdf

The results are fully compatible with
thought experiments of the eminent physicist and cat specialist Erwin Schrödinger

And we should take this seriously because?