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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Watch out, any that has to do with nature, the liberals hate

Does someone pay you to generalise liberals, or do you do it solely for your own amusement?

Life and opinions are based on experience. All the liberals I've seen fit into my generalizations. So, neither.

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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:56 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Leftists: When it doesn't make sense to you, pull out the sarcasm and gang up on it to kill it


Did it occur to you that maybe if you didn't say such crazy shit that people wouldn't en masse decide to argue with you?


Did it occur to you that if you would listen and consider and research a subject, it won't sound as crazy?

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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:56 pm

Knowlandia wrote:A lot of "alternative medicine" is backed by science and has been proven to help. Psychedelics have helped people with all sorts of problems (migraines/mental illness).

And homeopathy does too.

Unfortunately, the pathological fixation on "evidence" is used to ignore any natural remedy that is known to heal people. The so called "peer review" process is used by the allopath establishment to suppress anything that shows that homoeopathy works. http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:56 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Did it occur to you that maybe if you didn't say such crazy shit that people wouldn't en masse decide to argue with you?


Did it occur to you that if you would listen and consider and research a subject, it won't sound as crazy?


I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.
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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:57 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
New Laikland wrote:
Did it occur to you that if you would listen and consider and research a subject, it won't sound as crazy?


I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:57 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Knowlandia wrote:A lot of "alternative medicine" is backed by science and has been proven to help. Psychedelics have helped people with all sorts of problems (migraines/mental illness).

And homeopathy does too.

Unfortunately, the pathological fixation on "evidence" is used to ignore any natural remedy that is known to heal people. The so called "peer review" process is used by the allopath establishment to suppress anything that shows that homoeopathy works. http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html


You have absolutely no understanding of science and you're trying to pass it off like a plus.
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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:57 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.


Are you paid by the hour to try to destroy nature in favor of corporations?

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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:57 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Knowlandia wrote:A lot of "alternative medicine" is backed by science and has been proven to help. Psychedelics have helped people with all sorts of problems (migraines/mental illness).

And homeopathy does too.

Unfortunately, the pathological fixation on "evidence" is used to ignore any natural remedy that is known to heal people. The so called "peer review" process is used by the allopath establishment to suppress anything that shows that homoeopathy works. http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html

Which is why digoxin, which comes from foxgloves, isn't considered allopathic medicine.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?

Loaded question is loaded.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?


How do you know the earth is flat?
Have you seen it from space yourself?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

New Laikland wrote:Leftists: When it doesn't make sense to you, pull out the sarcasm and gang up on it to kill it

Well why would we take you seriously? You've made it quite clear that you're just fucking with us.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?


How do you know the earth is flat?
Have you seen it from space yourself?

Q~Q I've been around the Earth on a cruise.....does that count?
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Postby Shaggai » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?

Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.


Are you paid by the hour to try to destroy nature in favor of corporations?


I couldn't give a shit about the corporate aspect.
I'm arguing about what works.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:59 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
How do you know the earth is flat?
Have you seen it from space yourself?


I can confirm that the earth is actually a hexagonal shape. I went into space for the Dear Leader.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:59 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
How do you know the earth is flat?
Have you seen it from space yourself?

Q~Q I've been around the Earth on a cruise.....does that count?


No, the so called "Measurements" given by the scientific community are a plot to keep us flat earthers from being hired as geography professors.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I have researched the subject of homeopathy.
I've listened to their reasoning.

It's because i've done those things i've decided they are crazy.

Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?

Once put lemons in my water. Made my smoker's breath smell more citrusy.

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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
I couldn't give a shit about the corporate aspect.
I'm arguing about what works.


Can I see your MD to prove it works, please?

Oh, a few sources would be nice.

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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Shaggai wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:Have you ever actually tried homoeopathy though, and experienced its healing power?

Well, since it has no healing power, that isn't needed. Seriously, what sort of mechanism is there by which water "remembers" the substances that once were in it?

Something along the lines of "rubbing off electrons", apparently. I'm not kidding, this is what homeopaths believe.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

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Chishimotata wrote:Dude, it cannot, by any means, work. Period. Presuming that you started with exactly one mole of a substance, by the time you get past 12C, you've surpassed Avogadro's number, which specifies how much molecules exists in one mole of a substance. In essence, all you're drinking is alcohol and water (or all you're eating is sugar pills).

The allopathic fixation with "Avogadro's number" ignores the FACT that water has memory, through which the energy of the original substance can be infused in water and potentized through succussion.

Energy has a specific meaning in science. What kind? Thermal? Kinetic? Do tell us.
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An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Knowlandia wrote:A lot of "alternative medicine" is backed by science and has been proven to help. Psychedelics have helped people with all sorts of problems (migraines/mental illness).

And homeopathy does too.

Unfortunately, the pathological fixation on "evidence" is used to ignore any natural remedy that is known to heal people. The so called "peer review" process is used by the allopath establishment to suppress anything that shows that homoeopathy works. http://www.whale.to/w/journals1.html

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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Q~Q I've been around the Earth on a cruise.....does that count?


No, the so called "Measurements" given by the scientific community are a plot to keep us flat earthers from being hired as geography professors.

This is your 19,000th post. How does it make you feel?

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Does someone pay you to generalise liberals, or do you do it solely for your own amusement?

Life and opinions are based on experience. All the liberals I've seen fit into my generalizations. So, neither.

Some of us recognise that our experiences with some people aren't generalisable to all people in a given group. But then, that's probably my dirty liberal attachment to facts showing.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:01 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I couldn't give a shit about the corporate aspect.
I'm arguing about what works.


Can I see your MD to prove it works, please?

Oh, a few sources would be nice.


http://www.medsci.org/

Knock yourself out.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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