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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:48 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:The allopathic fixation with "Avogadro's number" ignores the FACT that water has memory, through which the energy of the original substance can be infused in water and potentized through succussion.


For fucks sake.
Give any scientific source AT ALL for the ridiculous notion that water has memory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022289_vibra ... water.html
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
For fucks sake.
Give any scientific source AT ALL for the ridiculous notion that water has memory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022289_vibra ... water.html


Oh i'm sorry.
A scientific source was asked for. I'm afraid naturalnews isn't scientific. Would you like to try again, or shall I use my blog posts to prove i'm actually the president of europe?
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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
For fucks sake.
Give any scientific source AT ALL for the ridiculous notion that water has memory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022289_vibra ... water.html

You cite NaturalNews without irony? Let me laugh again, invoking Scopie's Law: :rofl:

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Postby Lunalia » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

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Lunalia wrote:Guess I didn't really know what homeopathy was then!


They take a bit of something, put it in water, then treat the water so much that absolutely nothing of the original thing remains.
(As in, not a single molecule of it is left. It's just water again. They've seperated it.)

They claim the water "Remembers" the thing.

Then they add alcohol and give it to you.

Okay, that... sounds much more ridiculous than my mental image of natural "cure" that happens to contain enough of the things the person's allergic to that it acts to build up immunities.....
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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
For fucks sake.
Give any scientific source AT ALL for the ridiculous notion that water has memory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022289_vibra ... water.html

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:Dude, it cannot, by any means, work. Period. Presuming that you started with exactly one mole of a substance, by the time you get past 12C, you've surpassed Avogadro's number, which specifies how much molecules exists in one mole of a substance. In essence, all you're drinking is alcohol and water (or all you're eating is sugar pills).

The allopathic fixation with "Avogadro's number" ignores the FACT that water has memory, through which the energy of the original substance can be infused in water and potentized through succussion.

So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:50 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
For fucks sake.
Give any scientific source AT ALL for the ridiculous notion that water has memory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022289_vibra ... water.html


lolbunk

The implications, if true, would be hilarious. I'm not sure how much water I've used in the shower, but to know that someone has tasted the memory of my former aromas... that's special.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:


lolbunk

The implications, if true, would be hilarious. I'm not sure how much water I've used in the shower, but to know that someone has tasted the memory of my former aromas... that's special.

All the football and hockey stank of mine that people would have tasted. Brings tears to my eyes.

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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:The allopathic fixation with "Avogadro's number" ignores the FACT that water has memory, through which the energy of the original substance can be infused in water and potentized through succussion.

So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Then I ask again. On what subjective basis did you determine homeopathy to be superior?

Homeopathy is "more natural" than pills, regardless if this is a naturalistic fallacy, you said "On what subjective basis."

Now if you said "On what objective basis" I might be inclined to answer differently.

You've already said that superiority is subjective. Are you recanting that?

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:52 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.

No it doesn't.

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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:52 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.

With the power of my mind, I will now imagine the water in my cup be formed into ICE!

...

Damn, that didn't work. :(

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:52 pm

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Napkiraly wrote:So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.


Bullshit. I'm a magical purple unicorn, and MY consciousness can affect the structure of water, but yours cant.
Got any proof about your claim?

Btw, I really am a purple unicorn. I have sources just as good as yours.
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Postby Knowlandia » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:53 pm

A lot of "alternative medicine" is backed by science and has been proven to help. Psychedelics have helped people with all sorts of problems (migraines/mental illness).
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Postby An All-Natural Nation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
An All-Natural Nation wrote:Our consciousness affects the structure of water.

With the power of my mind, I will now imagine the water in my cup be formed into ICE!

...

Damn, that didn't work. :(

Not in that way. Our consciousness affects the small scale molecular structure of water, and affects the types of crystals that are formed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8
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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:53 pm

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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:lolbunk

The implications, if true, would be hilarious. I'm not sure how much water I've used in the shower, but to know that someone has tasted the memory of my former aromas... that's special.

All the football and hockey stank of mine that people would have tasted. Brings tears to my eyes.

Blood. Lots and lots of blood, dripping from a woman's vagina during her period. And we're drinking the memory of that blood. :shock:

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:53 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.

So if my consciousness tells the water to have the traces of unicorn hair and tiger blood, it'll somehow magically have that? What if I ask it to turn into a goat?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:54 pm

Lunalia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
They take a bit of something, put it in water, then treat the water so much that absolutely nothing of the original thing remains.
(As in, not a single molecule of it is left. It's just water again. They've seperated it.)

They claim the water "Remembers" the thing.

Then they add alcohol and give it to you.

Okay, that... sounds much more ridiculous than my mental image of natural "cure" that happens to contain enough of the things the person's allergic to that it acts to build up immunities.....


Allergy shots are well recognized in the scientific community.
Some can be "natural", but others have to be synthetic for various reasons. I'm not opposed to using the natural version of shit that actually works.
Seems pointless to me, but whatever floats your boat.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby New Laikland » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:54 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:All the football and hockey stank of mine that people would have tasted. Brings tears to my eyes.

Blood. Lots and lots of blood, dripping from a woman's vagina during her period. And we're drinking the memory of that blood. :shock:

Yes, I know...

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:54 pm

New Laikland wrote:

Watch out, any that has to do with nature, the liberals hate

Does someone pay you to generalise liberals, or do you do it solely for your own amusement?

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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:54 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:So you follow the idea that water still has traces of lots of diseases along with dinosaur urine? I mean, it has memory and everything.

Our consciousness affects the structure of water.

With power of my mind, I demand the water in my bottle change its structure from two hydrogen bonded to one oxygen to liquid antihydrogen...
Nope that definitely didn't worked.
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Postby Chishimotata » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:55 pm

An All-Natural Nation wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:With the power of my mind, I will now imagine the water in my cup be formed into ICE!

...

Damn, that didn't work. :(

Not in that way. Our consciousness affects the small scale molecular structure of water, and affects the types of crystals that are formed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8

With the power of my mind, I hereby command this water in my cup to crystallize in a CUBIC structure!

...

Damn, that didn't work either. Still a regular hexagon to me.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Homeopathy is "more natural" than pills, regardless if this is a naturalistic fallacy, you said "On what subjective basis."

Now if you said "On what objective basis" I might be inclined to answer differently.

You've already said that superiority is subjective. Are you recanting that?

No? There are various ways one can determine superiority. (how natural something is, what color it is, does it look fresh?, where was it made? etc etc....) this is also known as "gut feeling" or something like that. However, there are objective ways one can also determine superiority. ( clinical trials, effects on the body, etc)
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:55 pm

New Laikland wrote:Leftists: When it doesn't make sense to you, pull out the sarcasm and gang up on it to kill it


Did it occur to you that maybe if you didn't say such crazy shit that people wouldn't en masse decide to argue with you?
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