Does the (Christian) God Exist?

[Eberica]

So then you're an atheist.

An atheist that doesn't understand what the word means, but one nonetheless.

This is comparable to stating one is only either straight or asexual: the common or the opposite thereof.

like this and by the way i was going to name my country Oceania, damn i'm so unoriginal.

[Shilya]

So you're saying aliens exist and to us they're like god.

only if you are saying we were genetically engineered by aliens. Which i don't think there is enough evidence for no matter how often our friend Giorgio Tsoukalos (damn i hope i spelled that correctly) say "maybe it was aliens"

Well your argument for gods was that humans are gods to other species.
Since no species on this planet would be gods to us, that leaves only an alien species.

[The New World Oceania]

This is comparable to stating one is only either straight or asexual: the common or the opposite thereof.

Yes, it is.

It's a false comparison, though.

Why is it false? Sexuality and faith are both psychological at their roots.

[Mavorpen]

Yes, it is.

It's a false comparison, though.

Why is it false? Sexuality and faith are both psychological at their roots.

I'm not entertaining your shitty threadjack about sexuality.

[The New World Oceania]

Why is it false? Sexuality and faith are both psychological at their roots.

I'm not entertaining your shitty threadjack about sexuality.

Read: "I made a baseless argument and I'm not willing to satisfy conditions to make it legitimate."

[Eberica]

only if you are saying we were genetically engineered by aliens. Which i don't think there is enough evidence for no matter how often our friend Giorgio Tsoukalos (damn i hope i spelled that correctly) say "maybe it was aliens"

Well your argument for gods was that humans are gods to other species.
Since no species on this planet would be gods to us, that leaves only an alien species.

i suppose so. but alien is really a relative term. I live in the us and here we call Mexicans aliens as well as little green men.I have this other not well thought out theory that our solar system is really like an atom with the Sun being the nucleus and the plnets being the revolving electrons . all of our solar systems combining to form a galaxy, all the galaxies forming a universe all the universes forming something i don't know, and all those forming something else. always getting bigger and bigger, for all we know we could actully live in the stomach of a giant lifeform. Similar to how we have millions of different types of bacteria living in our stomachs. vomiting could be an act of god and dying would mean the eventual ending of the world (for the bacteria in our stomachs, of course they would have a good long time to survive from the dead flesh as well). just a bit of analogy that i also have no evidence for but is fun to ponder.

[Mavorpen]

I'm not entertaining your shitty threadjack about sexuality.

Read: "I made a baseless argument and I'm not willing to satisfy conditions to make it legitimate."

That's nice. You want to believe that sexuality is rooted in psychology and not biology, that's fine.

I'm not going to entertain your threadjack.

[The New World Oceania]

Read: "I made a baseless argument and I'm not willing to satisfy conditions to make it legitimate."

That's nice. You want to believe that sexuality is rooted in psychology and not biology, that's fine.

I'm not going to entertain your threadjack.

No, you're not going to provide any reasoning as to your claim that agnosticism is not a legitimate belief and you're going to defend it with a miscomprehension of the analogy which you are further unwilling to provide a true argument against.

[Mavorpen]

No, you're not going to provide any reasoning as to your claim that agnosticism is not a legitimate belief and you're going to defend it with a miscomprehension of the analogy which you are further unwilling to provide a true argument against.

There's you're problem.

Rather than reading my post, you chose to pretend I said something I didn't.

[The New World Oceania]

No, you're not going to provide any reasoning as to your claim that agnosticism is not a legitimate belief and you're going to defend it with a miscomprehension of the analogy which you are further unwilling to provide a true argument against.

There's you're problem.

Rather than reading my post, you chose to pretend I said something I didn't.

Not believing in God makes you an atheist.

"Agnostic" is not a third option. You either don't believe in a deity/deities, or you don't.

I suppose you were arguing that it's a fourth option?

[Lost heros]

That's nice. You want to believe that sexuality is rooted in psychology and not biology, that's fine.

I'm not going to entertain your threadjack.

No, you're not going to provide any reasoning as to your claim that agnosticism is not a legitimate belief and you're going to defend it with a miscomprehension of the analogy which you are further unwilling to provide a true argument against.

Agnostic by itself is not a third option.

[Benuty]

Seriously stop this threadjack...it hurts my eyes.

[Distruzio]

Religion is important though.

Why is it important?

It help me avoid be so much of a dick to people. It gives me structure. It gives me an identity.

[Mavorpen]

There's you're problem.

Rather than reading my post, you chose to pretend I said something I didn't.

Not believing in God makes you an atheist.

"Agnostic" is not a third option. You either don't believe in a deity/deities, or you don't.

I suppose you were arguing that it's a fourth option?

I thought you were going to quote me saying it's not a "legitimate belief."

I'll wait.

[The New World Oceania]

I suppose you were arguing that it's a fourth option?

I thought you were going to quote me saying it's not a "legitimate belief."

I'll wait.

I'm sorry, Lost Heros responded with an explanation which you apparently couldn't provide.

Agnostic by itself is not a third option.

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[Jormengand]

No, you're not going to provide any reasoning as to your claim that agnosticism is not a legitimate belief and you're going to defend it with a miscomprehension of the analogy which you are further unwilling to provide a true argument against.

Agnostic by itself is not a third option.

Oh, please. Having "Agnostic atheists" and "Agnostic theists" is like having "Straight bisexuals" and "Gay bisexuals." Why do you have to have a "Best guess?" Can't you just have "No guess?"

The atheist believes that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.
The theist doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and believes He does exist.
The agnostic doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.

There, three categories, done.

Now can we please resume saving the world?

[Mavorpen]

I thought you were going to quote me saying it's not a "legitimate belief."

I'll wait.

I'm sorry, Lost Heros responded with an explanation which you apparently couldn't provide.

Agnostic by itself is not a third option.

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So then you're done with the straw men, I take it?

[Mostrov]

Why must I guess if god exists or not? What if I say that I cannot know without guessing?

[Divair]

Agnostic by itself is not a third option.

Oh, please. Having "Agnostic atheists" and "Agnostic theists" is like having "Straight bisexuals" and "Gay bisexuals." Why do you have to have a "Best guess?" Can't you just have "No guess?"

The atheist believes that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.
The theist doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and believes He does exist.
The agnostic doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.

There, three categories, done.

Now can we please resume saving the world?

No.

[Mavorpen]

The agnostic doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.

So he's an atheist.

[Jormengand]

The agnostic doesn't believe that God doesn't exist, and doesn't believe He does exist.

So he's an atheist.

In a sense, I suppose. He's just an atheist who doesn't specifically think God doesn't exist either.

Though, I wouldn't refer to him as one. Terminology failure, but not really terminology failure which is relevant to the topic.

[Divair]

So he's an atheist.

In a sense, I suppose. He's just an atheist who doesn't specifically think God doesn't exist either.

So you could say that he's.. an agnostic atheist!
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[Mavorpen]

So he's an atheist.

In a sense, I suppose. He's just an atheist who doesn't specifically think God doesn't exist either.

Right, which is the fundamental definition of atheism. Not sure why you made that unnecessarily complicated.

[The New World Oceania]

In a sense, I suppose. He's just an atheist who doesn't specifically think God doesn't exist either.

Right, which is the fundamental definition of atheism. Not sure why you made that unnecessarily complicated.

So atheism is not a lack of belief in a god, but a lack of belief in a lack of belief in a god.

Not sure why you made that unnecessarily complicated.

[Jormengand]

In a sense, I suppose. He's just an atheist who doesn't specifically think God doesn't exist either.

So you could say that he's.. an agnostic atheist!
gasp shock horror

Yeah, but then the agnostic theist is occupying a rather unfortunate slot in my analysis.