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In your opinion, do you think God exists?

Yes!
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No!
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Probably...
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Probably Not...
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Postby United States of White America » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:43 am

Caecuser wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Yes. The Christian God does exist.

No. The Protestant God does not.

If the Christian God did not exist, it wouldn't matter.

If the Protestant God did exist, itd be an asshole undeserving of praise. Fuck that guy.

Why do i believe that? Because i like being confusing and the coffee is still brewing.


What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?


You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.
Christianity is good. Atheism is not. Deal with it.

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:44 am

Caecuser wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Yes. The Christian God does exist.

No. The Protestant God does not.

If the Christian God did not exist, it wouldn't matter.

If the Protestant God did exist, itd be an asshole undeserving of praise. Fuck that guy.

Why do i believe that? Because i like being confusing and the coffee is still brewing.


What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?



Relax. It was a joke.

I believe because, otherwise, id be a worse prick than i already am.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:45 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?


You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


It isnt.


How does it confuse you?
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:45 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?


You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


It isn't. Until we have hard evidence of God, we don't believe in Him. Simple.
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Postby Caecuser » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:45 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?


You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


I don't what that has to do with it - I never even claimed Atheism to be confusing or not - though I'd like to hear your reason on why you might perceive it to be confusing, something you don't understand?

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Postby United States of White America » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:46 am

Distruzio wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


It isnt.


How does it confuse you?


The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.
Christianity is good. Atheism is not. Deal with it.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:46 am


what in that mess do you consider PROOF?

taking the first one.... if you think that complexity and existence itself implies a CREATOR, fine, (it doesn't, but FINE). having a creator from billions of years ago implies nothing about the Christian god. it doesn't even mean that that creator still exists, just that it existed at the dawn of creation.

the second one is a useless video

the third is more of the same.

a lovely sunset doesn't mean "jesus".
whatever

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:47 am

Greater Istanistan wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


It isn't. Until we have hard evidence of God, we don't believe in Him. Simple.



What evidence would compel your belief?
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Postby Caecuser » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:48 am

United States of White America wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
It isnt.


How does it confuse you?


The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.


Are you not therefore assuming that all Atheists haven't considered or acknowledged religion / belief in a God?

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Postby United States of White America » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:49 am

Caecuser wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.


Are you not therefore assuming that all Atheists haven't considered or acknowledged religion / belief in a God?


Well, not every individual atheist, but the general ideology is fairly closed minded to any opposition.
Christianity is good. Atheism is not. Deal with it.

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:50 am

United States of White America wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
It isnt.


How does it confuse you?


The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.



Then it isnt atheism that confuses its atheists that confuse.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:50 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
What? Why did you even come into this thread if the reason you're going to give for your viewpoint is because you like being confusing?


You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


what is so confusing about "there is no god"?
whatever

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 am

Ashmoria wrote:

what in that mess do you consider PROOF?

taking the first one.... if you think that complexity and existence itself implies a CREATOR, fine, (it doesn't, but FINE). having a creator from billions of years ago implies nothing about the Christian god. it doesn't even mean that that creator still exists, just that it existed at the dawn of creation.

the second one is a useless video

the third is more of the same.

a lovely sunset doesn't mean "jesus".

The interesting thing is the second page claims to prove not just a deity by the Christian God.
This argument completely ignores the Deist argument. http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/main. ... ave-proven

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Postby Caecuser » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
Are you not therefore assuming that all Atheists haven't considered or acknowledged religion / belief in a God?


Well, not every individual atheist, but the general ideology is fairly closed minded to any opposition.


Is that your personal opinion only?

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 am

United States of White America wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
Are you not therefore assuming that all Atheists haven't considered or acknowledged religion / belief in a God?


Well, not every individual atheist, but the general ideology is fairly closed minded to any opposition.

So you're blaming us for your inability to give legitimate evidence for your belief?

Lovely.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 am

United States of White America wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
It isnt.


How does it confuse you?


The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.


what is confusing about that? don't you reject hinuism without considering a point of view?
whatever

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:52 am

Ashmoria wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


what is so confusing about "there is no god"?



Perhaps folks use the wrong "there?" Maybe they meant to say their? They're? Thar? I mean..... I can see how accent confuses.
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Postby Eberica » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:53 am

Greater Istanistan wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
You are acting on the assumption that atheism isn't confusing.


It isn't. Until we have hard evidence of God, we don't believe in Him. Simple.


Sounds more like Agnostic. In my opinion Atheism is just another religion. An Atheist "believes" there is no god. It's just another ism someone can use to define themselves. An Agnostic doesn't believe there is a god nor that there isn't a god. An agnostic is open to the possibility that god could exist but doesn't see any evidence for it yet.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:53 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:what in that mess do you consider PROOF?

taking the first one.... if you think that complexity and existence itself implies a CREATOR, fine, (it doesn't, but FINE). having a creator from billions of years ago implies nothing about the Christian god. it doesn't even mean that that creator still exists, just that it existed at the dawn of creation.

the second one is a useless video

the third is more of the same.

a lovely sunset doesn't mean "jesus".

The interesting thing is the second page claims to prove not just a deity by the Christian God.
This argument completely ignores the Deist argument. http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/main. ... ave-proven


jesus is god because unlike Buddha and Confucius jesus claimed to be god!
whatever

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:54 am

Ashmoria wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
The sheer blind rejection of religion, without considering a point of view. At least I acknowledge atheism.


what is confusing about that? don't you reject hinuism without considering a point of view?



I reject psychopathy without considering them.


Im a bigot.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:54 am

Eberica wrote:
Greater Istanistan wrote:
It isn't. Until we have hard evidence of God, we don't believe in Him. Simple.


Sounds more like Agnostic. In my opinion Atheism is just another religion. An Atheist "believes" there is no god. It's just another ism someone can use to define themselves. An Agnostic doesn't believe there is a god nor that there isn't a god. An agnostic is open to the possibility that god could exist but doesn't see any evidence for it yet.

Please stop lying.

Atheism is the lack of belief in god.
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Postby Jormengand » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:54 am

Eberica wrote:In my opinion Atheism is just another religion.

A pity that your opinion contradicts the facts, really.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:55 am

Distruzio wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
what is so confusing about "there is no god"?



Perhaps folks use the wrong "there?" Maybe they meant to say their? They're? Thar? I mean..... I can see how accent confuses.


that does sometimes confuse me.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:55 am

Eberica wrote:
Greater Istanistan wrote:
It isn't. Until we have hard evidence of God, we don't believe in Him. Simple.


Sounds more like Agnostic. In my opinion Atheism is just another religion. An Atheist "believes" there is no god. It's just another ism someone can use to define themselves. An Agnostic doesn't believe there is a god nor that there isn't a god. An agnostic is open to the possibility that god could exist but doesn't see any evidence for it yet.

I don't see how you jumped to the conclusion that just because you think Atheism is a belief, that makes it a religion. A Religion is the belief and worship of a deity, Atheism doesn't have that.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:55 am

Distruzio wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
what is confusing about that? don't you reject hinuism without considering a point of view?



I reject psychopathy without considering them.


Im a bigot.

Not necessarily, Past influences and experiences with psychopathy could influence your decision.
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