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Does the (Christian) God Exist?

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In your opinion, do you think God exists?

Yes!
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No!
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Probably...
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Probably Not...
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Does the (Christian) God Exist?

Postby Korena » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:21 pm

So, what do you think? Do you think God (the one that is mentioned in the Bible) actually exists? It's a question that I want to hear (hopefully different) answers and explanations for. Remember, nobody should try and force their own religion on others. I just would like to hear your opinion and some explanation as to why or why not, and maybe respectful response to others' arguments.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:22 pm

I'm pretty sure that there is already a thread for this.

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Postby The Shia Califate » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:23 pm

The Christian god = the muslim god = the jewish god = pretty much all gods.

Hint: There is only one God.
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Postby Dangelia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:23 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I'm pretty sure that there is already a thread for this.

That thread is on God in general. This one is specifically on the Christian God.

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Postby Imperia Mlytoria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:24 pm

No.

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Postby Korena » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:24 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I'm pretty sure that there is already a thread for this.


I couldn't find one. The only other Christian thread I could find was one that compared different types of Christianity, which really excludes those that don't believe in God. I wanted to have one where I could read the arguments of believers AND atheists.
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Postby UED » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:24 pm

depends on what you believe
Political and religious views don't define whether you are a good or bad person, unless you want to actively hurt everyone who doesn't believe what you say.

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Postby Sapin Military District » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:24 pm

If god doesn't exist, then why does a tissue pop up every time you take the old one out of the box?

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Postby UED » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:25 pm

Sapin Military District wrote:If god doesn't exist, then why does a tissue pop up every time you take the old one out of the box?


O_O
Political and religious views don't define whether you are a good or bad person, unless you want to actively hurt everyone who doesn't believe what you say.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:25 pm

Why don't you ask him?
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Postby Imperia Mlytoria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:25 pm

Sapin Military District wrote:If god doesn't exist, then why does a tissue pop up every time you take the old one out of the box?
You can't explain that!

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Postby The Shia Califate » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:26 pm

UED wrote:depends on what you believe

They're trying to ask you what you believe.
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Postby UED » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:27 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
UED wrote:depends on what you believe

They're trying to ask you what you believe.


Well, i'm Buddhist so in my opinion god doesn't exist.
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Postby Linux and the X » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:27 pm

Prediction: Christians, Jews, and Muslims will say yes; everyone else will say no.
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Postby Korena » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:27 pm

Linux and the X wrote:Prediction: Christians, Jews, and Muslims will say yes; everyone else will say no.


That's the point. I want to see arguments made by both sides...
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Postby Imperia Mlytoria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:27 pm

UED wrote:depends on what you believe
The existence of something does not depend upon what one believes. Something either is, or is not. If a thing is, those who believe it is not are simply wrong, and those who believe it is are right; if a thing is not, those who believe it is are simply wrong, and those who believe it is not are right.

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Postby Dangelia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:29 pm

Imperia Mlytoria wrote:
UED wrote:depends on what you believe
The existence of something does not depend upon what one believes. Something either is, or is not. If a thing is, those who believe it is not are simply wrong, and those who believe it is are right; if a thing is not, those who believe it is are simply wrong, and those who believe it is not are right.

I love your argument, it's... original.

:p

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Postby Resawa » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:29 pm

Here we go..

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Postby Korena » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:30 pm

Imperia Mlytoria wrote:
UED wrote:depends on what you believe
The existence of something does not depend upon what one believes. Something either is, or is not. If a thing is, those who believe it is not are simply wrong, and those who believe it is are right; if a thing is not, those who believe it is are simply wrong, and those who believe it is not are right.


Quite true. :lol:

So maybe give a 'why' as to why you think God doesn't exist?
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Postby Imperia Mlytoria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:37 pm

Korena wrote:
Imperia Mlytoria wrote:The existence of something does not depend upon what one believes. Something either is, or is not. If a thing is, those who believe it is not are simply wrong, and those who believe it is are right; if a thing is not, those who believe it is are simply wrong, and those who believe it is not are right.


Quite true. :lol:

So maybe give a 'why' as to why you think God doesn't exist?
Well, the absolute, complete, omnipresent nonexistence of even the teeniest, tiniest little stitch of evidence that would support such a claim, throughout the entire world and universe, sure doesn't help my "faith."

If anything resembling the Christian idea of god -- lordship over heaven and all -- does exist, either it will be sensible enough to admit me to heaven in light of my having the brains and balls to see there's no evidence of its existence in the natural world and man up and not believe in it until the moment I see it with my own two eyes, ...

... or I won't want to be in a "heaven" made by an irrational, tyrranical god that insists I believe in it in spite of the the apparently most logical option anyway; in fact, under the commonly held Christian view that nonbelievers go to hell, I'd imagine that the idea of "hell" to such a god -- filled with many scientiststs, and probably most of my friends and family -- would be far more pleasant to me anyway.

Why, then, would I even want to put irrational "faith" in such a god and have a ghost of a chance of getting into heaven, when hell is decidedly the better option?

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Postby Novalandia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:39 pm

Sapin Military District wrote:If god doesn't exist, then why does a tissue pop up every time you take the old one out of the box?


Checkmate Atheists! :lol2:

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I believe he doesn't. I mean, if none of the other gods exist, why should the Abrahamic one exist?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:41 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:The Christian god = the muslim god = the jewish god = pretty much all gods.

Hint: There is only one God.

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Postby Srboslavija » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:43 pm

I'm glad someone finally asked this question on NSG.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:44 pm

There's no evidence for the Christian god's existence.
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Postby Resawa » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:46 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:There's no evidence for the Christian god's existence.

But is there evidence he does not?
Just playing devils advocate, I'm not Christian

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