Israel found guilty of genocide

[Gaelic Celtia]

Suuuuuure. Tolerant to LGBT individuals. So tolerant they can't legally have marriages performed within Israel.

I'd sure as hell rather have to travel to France or somewhere to get married than be executed for being gay!

One half-step in the right direction doesn't excuse much more in the wrong.

[Luveria]

North Koreans elect their leaders too. I guess the DPRK is also a legitimate democracy.

Hello, Luv it's right there in the name! Would someone really go on the UN and just lie?

Definitely not Israel.

[America Libertaria]

Iran's elections are legitimate. The people do actually elect their leaders.

North Koreans elect their leaders too. I guess the DPRK is also a legitimate democracy.

The elections are legitimate, the election results are not predetermined by the government or decided by the government. Although the Supreme Leader there has many restrictions on who can run for office, you cannot say that the elections in Iran are not legitimate.

[Maqtrybama]

They took Japanese lands, it was war. What was Israel going to do, let the Egyptians regroup on the Suez Canal and let them invade Israel again?

And of course the damn Japanese keep launching rockets at American settlements in Japanese land.

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

[Gaelic Celtia]

There's no proof that Iran is building a nuke, and even so, they aren't crazy enough to shoot it at Israel.
And i'm pretty sure the Supreme Leader of Iran never said anything about killing all jews or destroying Israel.

Denial is the first step toward anti-Semitism. You do realize Iran's nuke was video taped, Ajmadinijad (can't spell it, on my phone, very hard to type.) did say those things, look it up.

Don't tell us to prove your BS. The burden is on you.

[Lydenburg]

I'd sure as hell rather have to travel to France or somewhere to get married than be executed for being gay!

Wow, lets compare one bad situation to a worse situation so we can ignore how bad the first one is?

Wow, let's compare one worse situation to a bad one so we can ignore how much worse the first one is?

You see what happens when we talk in absolutes?

[The High Guardians]

Denial is the first step toward anti-Semitism. You do realize Iran's nuke was video taped, Ajmadinijad (can't spell it, on my phone, very hard to type.) did say those things, look it up.

Don't tell us to prove your BS. The burden is on you.

This.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You're right, a fuckton of countries are also guilty of genocide, but we're not discussing them in this thread, are we?

Quite. As long as we both understand that Israel is hardly an isolated case that deserves disproportionate spasms of outraged indignation accordingly.

Yes, but right now we're focusing on Israel. And I am no anti-semitic when I say this, but Israel is to be criticized a lot about their internal affairs and regional policy.

[Gauthier]

And of course the damn Japanese keep launching rockets at American settlements in Japanese land.

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

I didn't know the Japanese were still invading Pearl Harbor... militarily.

[Blasveck]

And of course the damn Japanese keep launching rockets at American settlements in Japanese land.

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

Palestinians lived there.

Nobody had the right to kick them out because a bunch of old dead people said they could 2000 years ago.

[America Libertaria]

You're right, a fuckton of countries are also guilty of genocide, but we're not discussing them in this thread, are we?

Quite. As long as we both understand that Israel is hardly an isolated case that deserves disproportionate spasms of outraged indignation accordingly.

In another thread when we discuss those who have committed genocide as well will get the same case of "disproportionate spasms of outraged indignation" as Israel has in this thread.

[Maqtrybama]

Hello, Luv it's right there in the name! Would someone really go on the UN and just lie?

Definitely not Israel.

Buzz off anti-Semitic Jew hated! Palestine also lied to the UN, and what did Israel lie about? Oh that's right NOTHING!

[Lydenburg]

Denial is the first step toward anti-Semitism. You do realize Iran's nuke was video taped, Ajmadinijad (can't spell it, on my phone, very hard to type.) did say those things, look it up.

Don't tell us to prove your BS. The burden is on you.

It is BS in that the Ayatollah said most of the quotes he's pulling out. Clearly there is some confusion.

[America Libertaria]

Definitely not Israel.

Buzz off anti-Semitic Jew hated! Palestine also lied to the UN, and what did Israel lie about? Oh that's right NOTHING!

[Luveria]

North Koreans elect their leaders too. I guess the DPRK is also a legitimate democracy.

The elections are legitimate, the election results are not predetermined by the government or decided by the government.

Yes they are. Limiting which parties can run and which candidates can run is predetermining election results to a narrow list which is going to be favourable to the ruling regime.

Although the Supreme Leader there has many restrictions on who can run for office, you cannot say that the elections in Iran are not legitimate.

Of course I can I say it. You just proved what I said above.

[Orgasmland]

While it is true that Israel was founded by genocide victims, I do believe that it is possible that Israel did this but here's the thing: what are Palestinians still doing there anyways? Israel is the Jewish Motherland and they deserve to have a country there and if the Palestinians aren't happy with that then they should just immigrate to some other Arab country. Besides, the whole reason this stuff happens is because of religion and Palestinians are Muslim and so are nearby country's like Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan ect.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Definitely not Israel.

Buzz off anti-Semitic Jew hated! Palestine also lied to the UN, and what did Israel lie about? Oh that's right NOTHING!

Aaaaaand reported.

[Nervium]

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

I didn't know the Japanese were still invading Pearl Harbor... militarily.

Economically, yes. You shall bow for Imperial Power of Sushi.

[Limborg]

There's no proof that Iran is building a nuke, and even so, they aren't crazy enough to shoot it at Israel.
And i'm pretty sure the Supreme Leader of Iran never said anything about killing all jews or destroying Israel.

Denial is the first step toward anti-Semitism. You do realize Iran's nuke was video taped, Ajmadinijad (can't spell it, on my phone, very hard to type.) did say those things, look it up.

Are you trying to refer to the "Israel should be whiped of the map" line? becouse that is already proven invalid. Just a propaganda translation wich wasn't correct. and by the way, Ahmadinejad isn't and wasn't the leader of Iran, he was only the president. I do agree on the fact that he wasn't a good one...

[Aloia]

Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East and if you look at maps regarding the governments' treatment toward LGBT individuals, Israel is the only nation in the area that recognizes same-sex marriages. Most of its neighbors imprison or execute gay people. I don't understand why people hate Israel so much.

Might want to think again on that statement.

The government recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other countries. And as I said, I'd sure as hell would rather go to France or Spain to get married and come back to Israel and have the same rights as everyone else than go into Saudi Arabia and be executed.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

Palestinians lived there.

Nobody had the right to kick them out because a bunch of old dead people said they could 2000 years ago.

This.

[Lydenburg]

Quite. As long as we both understand that Israel is hardly an isolated case that deserves disproportionate spasms of outraged indignation accordingly.

In another thread when we discuss those who have committed genocide as well will get the same case of "disproportionate spasms of outraged indignation" as Israel has in this thread.

I started a thread on Gukurahundi a few months back. Lasted for all of two pages and beyond the satire attracted three posters who did all the discussing.

This thread has lasted twenty-five pages and attracted well over a hundred posters. Try me again.

[America Libertaria]

Pearl Harbor, even if Israel was the Palestinians, the UN didn't care, and Palestine and their buddies didn't do many things to prevent them, I didn't see any major acts in the UN that they proposed.

Palestinians lived there.

Nobody had the right to kick them out because a bunch of old dead people said they could 2000 years ago.

Couldn't have said it better.

[Gaelic Celtia]

Don't tell us to prove your BS. The burden is on you.

It is BS in that the Ayatollah said most of the quotes he's pulling out. Clearly there is some confusion.

And I am asking for some proof on those claims he laid down. I'm not rejecting them as completely false yet, but I will certainly not believe anything he says without proof.

[Bolguria]

About time I say! I've been studying the Middle East for the past few months, and neither side impress me. Israel was founded by Ben Gurion, a well self proclaimed terrorist, who headed the Irgun which committed many atrocities to the British garrison during the mandate years and during the '48 war pushed the Arabs out from their homes. The Fedayeen were not much better, neither were the latter PLO and their Aircraft tactics.