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Teens Arrested For Waiting For School Bus While Black

Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:48 am

Yes, we had the controversy over people arrested for Shopping While Black, and even Working While Black. Now we have Waiting For The School Bus While Black. To wit:

Three Edison students who were charged with disorderly conduct pleaded not guilty in court.

The boys were with about a dozen basketball teammates Wednesday morning on Main Street waiting for a school bus to take them to a scrimmage at Aquinas. There was no school that day and their coach had arranged for a pick-up at a central meeting spot.

An officer asked the boys to disperse and they refused. The young men say they tried to explain to him they were waiting for a school bus. The officer arrested three of the players.

"We didn't do nothing," said Raliek Redd. "We was just trying to go to our scrimmage."

"We was just waiting for our bus and he started arrested us," said Wan'Tauhjs Weathers.

"You just downtown, minding your own business, and next thing you know, anything can happen," said Daequon Carelock.

The police report says the students were obstructing "pedestrian traffic while standing on a public sidewalk...preventing free passage of citizens walking by and attempting to enter and exit a store...Your complainant gave several lawful clear and concise orders for the group to disperse and leave the area without complaince."

The report does not accuse the boys of using abusive or obscense language.

A department statement issued Wednesday evening affirms the account in the paperwork.

The boys' families had to post $200 bail to make sure they were home for Thanksgiving.

Their coach, Jacob Scott, who is also a district guidance counselor, arrived at the location as the three students were placed in handcuffs. Scott said he pleaded with the officer to let the boys go, saying he was supervising them.

"He goes on to say, 'If you don't disperse, you're going to get booked as well,'" Scott said. "I said, 'Sir, I'm the adult. I'm their varsity basketball coach. How can you book me? What am I doing wrong? Matter of fact, what are these guys doing wrong?'"

Scott said a sergeant showed up and backed up his officer.

"One of the police officers actually told me, if he had a big enough caravan, he would take all of us downtown," Scott said.

Scott said the incident was traumatic for the players who got arrested and the players who witnessed the arrests and such treatment of their coach.

"It's a catastrophe. These young men were doing nothing wrong, nothing wrong. They did exactly what they were supposed to do and still they get arrested," said Scott. "I'm speaking to the officers with dignity...and still and yet - they see me get treated like nothing."

Rochester school board member Mary Adams showed up to the arraignment.

"I think the charges should be immediately dropped and I think the district attorney's office should be stepping in an looking at these kinds of matters," Adams said.

A trial date has been set for December 11.


TL;DR: A bunch of kids were waiting for a school bus to take them to a scrimmage. Cops showed up, told them to disperse. When the kids tried to explain that they were waiting for a bus, they were told to disperse again. When they tried to explain again, three of them got arrested. When the coach showed up and tried to explain matters to the arresting officers and sergeant in charge, he was threatened with arrest. The arrested teens had to pay $200 in bail apiece, and have a trial date set for December 5th.

I'm aware that black people, particularly young men, have generally been a prominent target for police harassment. Are the police being more blatant about it lately, or is this sort of thing simply being reported more often?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:53 am

I hope one of them had time to quip
"Don't worry officer, we'll sit at the back."
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Postby Gallup » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:54 am

There is more to the story than that. And, if not, so what? It was an isolated incident.
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Postby Minarchist States » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:57 am

were obstructing "pedestrian traffic while standing on a public sidewalk...preventing free passage of citizens walking by and attempting to enter and exit a store...


What kind of idiotic reason is this? Stopping pedestrian traffic? Give me a break.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:58 am

Gallup wrote:There is more to the story than that. And, if not, so what? It was an isolated incident.


We sure have been seeing a lot of isolated incidents lately.
Almost like it's a pattern.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:58 am

One wonders how many people this department arrested for the same behavior on Black Friday?
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:59 am

There might be more to the incident.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:59 am

Gallup wrote:There is more to the story than that. And, if not, so what? It was an isolated incident.


Okay, you did see where I pointed out that this seems to be happening quite a bit lately, or at least is being reported quite a bit, right?

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Postby Akoz » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:59 am

Racism is always present this stuff doesn't surprise me anymore.
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Postby Gallup » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:59 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gallup wrote:There is more to the story than that. And, if not, so what? It was an isolated incident.


We sure have been seeing a lot of isolated incidents lately.
Almost like it's a pattern.

In a country this big, it's not a pattern.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:00 am

Sdaeriji wrote:One wonders how many people this department arrested for the same behavior on Black Friday?


I hear they tried to arrest the entire day.

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Postby Blasveck » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:01 am

It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?
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Postby Gallup » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:02 am

Blasveck wrote:It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?

Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:03 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gallup wrote:There is more to the story than that. And, if not, so what? It was an isolated incident.


We sure have been seeing a lot of isolated incidents lately.
Almost like it's a pattern.

Let me parody Three Dog Night

The cops are white, the arrested black
And one wonders why locals refuse to tell the cops.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:03 am

Gallup wrote:
Blasveck wrote:It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?

Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.

Perhaps but what crime where these young men committing? They were waiting for a bus to go somewhere.
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Gallup wrote:
Blasveck wrote:It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?

Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.


Add a control for poverty.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:04 am

Gallup wrote:
Blasveck wrote:It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?

Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.


What these boys did was not a crime.
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Postby Gallup » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:05 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Gallup wrote:Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.

Perhaps but what crime where these young men committing? They were waiting for a bus to go somewhere.

They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and ignored a police order.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:05 am

Gallup wrote:
Blasveck wrote:It's like we get one of these "Arrested for X while black" a week.

What's with police officers?

Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.


So in the three examples I listed in the OP, tell me what crimes they were committing.

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Gallup wrote:Young black males in the US statically commit the most crimes.


So in the three examples I listed in the OP, tell me what crimes they were committing.

They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and they disobeyed a police order.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:06 am

Gallup wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Perhaps but what crime where these young men committing? They were waiting for a bus to go somewhere.

They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and ignored a police order.


Blame the city planning then.
It is a bus stop.
Ignoring police officers is not a crime unless they are demanding identification or you are in their custody.
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Gallup wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Perhaps but what crime where these young men committing? They were waiting for a bus to go somewhere.

They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and ignored a police order.


I'm fairly certain that there are no laws against standing on a sidewalk.
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Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gallup wrote:They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and ignored a police order.


Blame the city planning then.
It is a bus stop.
Ignoring police officers is not a crime unless they are demanding identification or you are in their custody.


Actually, they were waiting for a school bus, meaning that it's possible that it wasn't an actual city bus stop. In that case, however, the school is at fault.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:07 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gallup wrote:They were blocking a store and a sidewalk and ignored a police order.


Blame the city planning then.
It is a bus stop.
Ignoring police officers is not a crime unless they are demanding identification or you are in their custody.

I have a brilliant idea. Arrest whoever thought it was a good idea to place a bus stop right in front of a storefront.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:08 am

I'm not so convinced that this is racism, simply because there seems to have be a rise in the awareness of police misuse of power in general. I'm pretty sure the cops arrested these kids because they were on a power trip, not because they were black. Though it would not at all surprise me if it were the latter.

I really, really detest local and state police.

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