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Postby With Teeth » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:24 pm

The article about quantum mechanics is filled with Copenhagen and verificationist assumptions.
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Postby Phisych University » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
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By that logic ANYTHING can be real. From Santa to Big Foot to the Lochness Monster to Bugs Bunny to Rainbow Dash to Superman to- are you seeing the problem with that logic? Like, have I demonstrated how saying "It works because it's outside the rulez, man!" is such a flawed argument? Once you remove the rules, all things become permissible. Including deliberately fictional characters.


No, not actually. Unlike Superman millions believe Santa is a real living person and Saint Nicholas was a real person. Even Wikipedia has an article on him. Santa isn't something a comic book writer made up. He is a historical figure with centuries of varied folklore to back him up and millions of followers.


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Yes, he is. He's a historical piece of folklore that has changed over time.

Santa is based off of Saint Nicholas, a very different figure than Santa who did not have any of the abilities you say he has.

So how, prey tell, can a being that is clearly based off another being (whose existence is also questionable) exist in real life?

Santa is fiction. Made up. A story that has evolved through time. The end.
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Postby Giovenith » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

What kind of question is this? Of course he is!
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

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Seperates wrote:I WILL DO SCIENCE TO IT.

Oh god, I just Rule 34ed that. DAMNIT BRAIN STOP DOING TERRIBLE THINGS! :palm:


What? The Terminator and Chthulhu doing scie-


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Postby Limborg » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

Fake, Period. You stole european saints and merged them into some kind of fatass who abuses his animals.

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Postby Thafoo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

Is the Space Pope reptilian?

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Postby Giovenith » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:27 pm

Limborg wrote:Fake, Period. You stole european saints and merged them into some kind of fatass who abuses his animals.


You know Europe has Santa too, right?
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Postby Arkandros » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Seperates wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

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You do realize that the very concept of 'Christmas' is a pagan tradition, correct? As well, there is long tradition of similarly themed pagan demi-gods that performed similar feats (gifting etc.) on days of feasting. So, regardless of whether or not the miracles that St. Nicholas performed were 'verified', then they are as equally 'verified' as the power of these demi-gods, and the historical tradition behind them and their continuation even into Christian times stands.

Not only that, but what was St. Nicholas really known for? Giving money for the dowrys of poor women. Not giving gifts to children... Well ok, those girls were probably 14-16, but REGARDLESS, the other attributes of St. Nicholas probably come from hold-overs of pagan tradition.

Basically, if one does happen to get a package that no one bought, it's probably from the pagan demi-gods, not St. Nicholas. But on the bright side, at least you were a good little pagan that year. :D

Just thought I'd let you know- St. Nick is not only the patron saint of children, but also of sailors, archers, merchants, thieves, and murderers. No, you won't find that last one on Wikipedia, but it's true.
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Postby THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Thafoo wrote:Is the Space Pope reptilian?


If I remember correctly the space pope is of Wersgorix blood.
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Postby Thafoo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:29 pm

THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA wrote:Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.

What is this I don't even

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Postby Limborg » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:29 pm

Giovenith wrote:
Limborg wrote:Fake, Period. You stole european saints and merged them into some kind of fatass who abuses his animals.


You know Europe has Santa too, right?


Yeah, it came over from the US. However we still have the old and originals. Like Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas) in the Netherlands. The US one is just based on nothing but a load of crap and Some European Original versians of Saints.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:29 pm

THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA wrote:Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.


Well I've never seen him in person.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Giovenith wrote:
Limborg wrote:Fake, Period. You stole european saints and merged them into some kind of fatass who abuses his animals.

You know Europe has Santa too, right?

Sinterklaas, Père Noël, Father Christmas, Pai Natal, Babbo Natale, Papá/Papai Noel...
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Postby With Teeth » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Thafoo wrote:
THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA wrote:Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.

What is this I don't even


I think it's a "joke".
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Postby THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Thafoo wrote:
THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA wrote:Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.

What is this I don't even

Obama is santa.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:31 pm

I'm gonna go sacrifice a reindeer by slitting it's throat and bleeding it on a bowl with cheap-shotty designs like gingerbread men or holly and that stuff. And then I'm gonna drink the essence while I burn it's inner organs and pretend to praise Santa to lure him...afterwards I'll offer some chocolate chip cookies and milk to the Red Lord of Coal on top of a naked elf woman to seal him inside a smelly stocking for another year until the cycle repeats itself.

Yeah, of course The Dark Santanic Lord is real...that's why we gotta keep that smelly stocking buried up in the Arctic circle.
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Postby Thafoo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA wrote:Do we even have to debate this.

Of course Obama is real.


Well I've never seen him in person.

Have you ever noticed how we've never seen Obama and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the same room?

It's obvious that Obama is the Boston Bomber.

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Postby Arkandros » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:31 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Giovenith wrote:You know Europe has Santa too, right?

Sinterklaas, Père Noël, Father Christmas, Pai Natal, Babbo Natale, Papá/Papai Noel...

Don't forget Krampus! Old German monster that would punish naughty children. Then again, he was a lot meaner than a lump of coal...
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Postby Arkandros » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:32 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Well I've never seen him in person.

Have you ever noticed how we've never seen Obama and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the same room?

It's obvious that Obama is the Boston Bomber.

You also never see me in the same room as Obama. OHMYGOD IM THE SECRET PRESIDENT!
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Postby Thafoo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Have you ever noticed how we've never seen Obama and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the same room?

It's obvious that Obama is the Boston Bomber.

You also never see me in the same room as Obama. OHMYGOD IM THE SECRET PRESIDENT!

And therefore you're the Boston Bomber.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm

Giovenith wrote:
Limborg wrote:Fake, Period. You stole european saints and merged them into some kind of fatass who abuses his animals.


You know Europe has Santa too, right?

Scandinavia and the World really sums it up neatly. :P
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Postby Limborg » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Sinterklaas, Père Noël, Father Christmas, Pai Natal, Babbo Natale, Papá/Papai Noel...

Don't forget Krampus! Old German monster that would punish naughty children. Then again, he was a lot meaner than a lump of coal...


Put all of those together in a blender together with a retard from the US and you get your Santa...

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Have you ever noticed how we've never seen Obama and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the same room?

It's obvious that Obama is the Boston Bomber.

You also never see me in the same room as Obama. OHMYGOD IM THE SECRET PRESIDENT!


Who cares? It's not like the President has any real power.

Santa is running that shit....

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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:34 pm

Limborg wrote:Put all of those together in a blender together with a retard from the US and you get your Santa...

No. Stop that. Shame on you. Don't make me grab a mod who isn't an active participant in the thread to smack you. >:(
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