Is Santa Real?

[The Emerald Legion]

Of course he's real. He's the one and only supreme ruler and dictator of humanity.

And he even has robot elves. Just like in the stories.

Bow down before the power of Santa.

[Neoconstantius]

If you mean Santa as in the jolly fat red-clothed man hyped by American consumerism every year, then no. If you mean the heretic-punching badass holy man, then yes.

[Azaflaza]

Of course he's real. He's the one and only supreme ruler and dictator of humanity.

And he even has robot elves. Just like in the stories.

Bow down before the power of Santa.

That was awesome!

[Uelvan]

Obviously, who else did I see at the mall?

[Taaris]

Santa is a faerie who kills other faerie creatures on Halloween night as part of The Wild Hunt. [see Dresden]

[Universal Socialism]

I shall provide a brief explanation of why Santa Claws doesn't exist. Just to let you know ahead of time your god defense is meaningless to me for I'm an atheist, however that debate is a totally different one.
First of all if Santa Claws really had a factory at the North Pole people would have discovered it long ago using satellite imaging. Theirs also been sea, and land exploration which have uncovered nothing.
Second of all (assuming you had some way to logically answer the first) Santa has supposely been around for centuries (or was it only decades) and back in the day tech wasen't as good so how does he run his operations (like powering his factory and feeding his workers. Adding to this he also doesn't have the materials to make a factory, or toys. Even more so Santa should evantually die by old age, how does he avoid this?
Third of all by now someone would have noticed Santa breaking into their place and have called the police. I assume that when Santa gets put in jail his workers and raindeer would make some sort of rescue attempt. However this would cause an incident that would probably get quite a bit of media attention, as well as result in the discovery of things like magical raindeer, and elves (considering they would probably have to confront the cops to successfully rescue Santa).
Forth of all how the heck do raindeer transport Santa all over the world (assuming you found some way to justify the idea of them flying) quick to deliver gifts to every freaking child on the planet (which would be all across the globe)?
Fifth of all why do mainly kids in western first-world nations get them, for I'm pretty sure theirs plenty of poor kids in poor countrys that behave well and need help(and considering Santa doesn't need trees or chimneys to deliver the presents he should be fine, and don't back down on your own rules cause it only adds to things I can put on this list)?
Sixth of all magic isn't a good answer to any of the critisisms nor is the idea of him having lots of supporters. I'm not going bother debunking magic right here for i don't even know where to start with that (just look up some James Camrie vids he debunks plenty of magicians and pyschs, and still no one has taken him up on his $1,000,000 prize). Also just because something has a lot of support doesn't mean its proven true, look at hitlers "Ayrian Invasion theory" it also was supported by millions of people but was proven to not be false in later years.

If Santa is to be proven real indefinitely how about he goes in front of the Scientific Community and show off some of his abilities under test conditions, and then they will have no choice but to believe in Santa. Intill then all you can do is argue, and continue to be debunked.

[Uelvan]

I shall provide a brief explanation of why Santa Claws doesn't exist. Just to let you know ahead of time your god defense is meaningless to me for I'm an atheist, however that debate is a totally different one.
First of all if Santa Claws really had a factory at the North Pole people would have discovered it long ago using satellite imaging. Theirs also been sea, and land exploration which have uncovered nothing.
Second of all (assuming you had some way to logically answer the first) Santa has supposely been around for centuries (or was it only decades) and back in the day tech wasen't as good so how does he run his operations (like powering his factory and feeding his workers. Adding to this he also doesn't have the materials to make a factory, or toys. Even more so Santa should evantually die by old age, how does he avoid this?
Third of all by now someone would have noticed Santa breaking into their place and have called the police. I assume that when Santa gets put in jail his workers and raindeer would make some sort of rescue attempt. However this would cause an incident that would probably get quite a bit of media attention, as well as result in the discovery of things like magical raindeer, and elves (considering they would probably have to confront the cops to successfully rescue Santa).
Forth of all how the heck do raindeer transport Santa all over the world (assuming you found some way to justify the idea of them flying) quick to deliver gifts to every freaking child on the planet (which would be all across the globe)?
Fifth of all why do mainly kids in western first-world nations get them, for I'm pretty sure theirs plenty of poor kids in poor countrys that behave well and need help(and considering Santa doesn't need trees or chimneys to deliver the presents he should be fine, and don't back down on your own rules cause it only adds to things I can put on this list)?

Sixth of all magic isn't a good answer to any of the critisisms nor is the idea of him having lots of supporters. I'm not going bother debunking magic right here for i don't even know where to start with that (just look up some James Camrie vids he debunks plenty of magicians and pyschs, and still no one has taken him up on his $1,000,000 prize). Also just because something has a lot of support doesn't mean its proven true, look at hitlers "Ayrian Invasion theory" it also was supported by millions of people but was proven to not be false in later years.

If Santa is to be proven real indefinitely how about he goes in front of the Scientific Community and show off some of his abilities under test conditions, and then they will have no choice but to believe in Santa. Intill then all you can do is argue, and continue to be debunked.

1. Magic
2. Magic
3. Magic
4. Magic
5. Racism
6. Santa isn't a stage performer/illusionist

[The Kingdom of Nea Hellas]

If you mean Santa as in the jolly fat red-clothed man hyped by American consumerism every year, then no. If you mean the heretic-punching badass holy man, then yes.

This.

[Valrifell]

Santa is an alien, duh.

[Uelvan]

Santa is an alien, duh.

/thread

[Gandoor]

yes santa is real

i feel sorry for any of you who said he isn't because you guys don't believe in magic anymore. that's why you're all getting coal in your stockings

[Seperates]

Yes... As much as any other simulacra anyways.

If you mean 'real' in the sense of actually accurately reflecting reality... no.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

By that logic ANYTHING can be real. From Santa to Big Foot to the Lochness Monster to Bugs Bunny to Rainbow Dash to Superman to- are you seeing the problem with that logic? Like, have I demonstrated how saying "It works because it's outside the rulez, man!" is such a flawed argument? Once you remove the rules, all things become permissible. Including deliberately fictional characters.

I suspect the bronies will be pleased.

And the Digimon fans.

I asked my family a Digivice for my 8th birthday/Christmas. *nods*

[Fascist Russian Empire]

No. No he ain't real. Seriously, why would you believe in a fat guy who somehow manages to deliver presents to everyone in the world with magic reindeer without getting caught? All in a single night? Utterly ridiculous.

[Universal Socialism]

I shall provide a brief explanation of why Santa Claws doesn't exist. Just to let you know ahead of time your god defense is meaningless to me for I'm an atheist, however that debate is a totally different one.
First of all if Santa Claws really had a factory at the North Pole people would have discovered it long ago using satellite imaging. Theirs also been sea, and land exploration which have uncovered nothing.
Second of all (assuming you had some way to logically answer the first) Santa has supposely been around for centuries (or was it only decades) and back in the day tech wasen't as good so how does he run his operations (like powering his factory and feeding his workers. Adding to this he also doesn't have the materials to make a factory, or toys. Even more so Santa should evantually die by old age, how does he avoid this?
Third of all by now someone would have noticed Santa breaking into their place and have called the police. I assume that when Santa gets put in jail his workers and raindeer would make some sort of rescue attempt. However this would cause an incident that would probably get quite a bit of media attention, as well as result in the discovery of things like magical raindeer, and elves (considering they would probably have to confront the cops to successfully rescue Santa).
Forth of all how the heck do raindeer transport Santa all over the world (assuming you found some way to justify the idea of them flying) quick to deliver gifts to every freaking child on the planet (which would be all across the globe)?
Fifth of all why do mainly kids in western first-world nations get them, for I'm pretty sure theirs plenty of poor kids in poor countrys that behave well and need help(and considering Santa doesn't need trees or chimneys to deliver the presents he should be fine, and don't back down on your own rules cause it only adds to things I can put on this list)?

Sixth of all magic isn't a good answer to any of the critisisms nor is the idea of him having lots of supporters. I'm not going bother debunking magic right here for i don't even know where to start with that (just look up some James Camrie vids he debunks plenty of magicians and pyschs, and still no one has taken him up on his $1,000,000 prize). Also just because something has a lot of support doesn't mean its proven true, look at hitlers "Ayrian Invasion theory" it also was supported by millions of people but was proven to not be false in later years.

If Santa is to be proven real indefinitely how about he goes in front of the Scientific Community and show off some of his abilities under test conditions, and then they will have no choice but to believe in Santa. Intill then all you can do is argue, and continue to be debunked.

1. Magic
2. Magic
3. Magic
4. Magic
5. Racism
6. Santa isn't a stage performer/illusionist

Can you please give an answer that isn't magic? At least try to come up with something credible. Also do you even have any credible proof of Santa Claws (which is kinda of necessary if you wish to get your theory to become officially requinized), if you do I recommend showing it to the Scientific Community not just me.
@Gandoor I don't think anyone actually gets coal except people who have pranks played on them.

[Empire of Narnia]

I shall provide a brief explanation of why Santa Claws doesn't exist. Just to let you know ahead of time your god defense is meaningless to me for I'm an atheist, however that debate is a totally different one.
First of all if Santa Claws really had a factory at the North Pole people would have discovered it long ago using satellite imaging. Theirs also been sea, and land exploration which have uncovered nothing.
Second of all (assuming you had some way to logically answer the first) Santa has supposely been around for centuries (or was it only decades) and back in the day tech wasen't as good so how does he run his operations (like powering his factory and feeding his workers. Adding to this he also doesn't have the materials to make a factory, or toys. Even more so Santa should evantually die by old age, how does he avoid this?
Third of all by now someone would have noticed Santa breaking into their place and have called the police. I assume that when Santa gets put in jail his workers and raindeer would make some sort of rescue attempt. However this would cause an incident that would probably get quite a bit of media attention, as well as result in the discovery of things like magical raindeer, and elves (considering they would probably have to confront the cops to successfully rescue Santa).
Forth of all how the heck do raindeer transport Santa all over the world (assuming you found some way to justify the idea of them flying) quick to deliver gifts to every freaking child on the planet (which would be all across the globe)?
Fifth of all why do mainly kids in western first-world nations get them, for I'm pretty sure theirs plenty of poor kids in poor countrys that behave well and need help(and considering Santa doesn't need trees or chimneys to deliver the presents he should be fine, and don't back down on your own rules cause it only adds to things I can put on this list)?

Sixth of all magic isn't a good answer to any of the critisisms nor is the idea of him having lots of supporters. I'm not going bother debunking magic right here for i don't even know where to start with that (just look up some James Camrie vids he debunks plenty of magicians and pyschs, and still no one has taken him up on his $1,000,000 prize). Also just because something has a lot of support doesn't mean its proven true, look at hitlers "Ayrian Invasion theory" it also was supported by millions of people but was proven to not be false in later years.

If Santa is to be proven real indefinitely how about he goes in front of the Scientific Community and show off some of his abilities under test conditions, and then they will have no choice but to believe in Santa. Intill then all you can do is argue, and continue to be debunked.

1. Magic
2. Magic
3. Magic
4. Magic
5. Racism
6. Santa isn't a stage performer/illusionist

I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

[Gandoor]

Also is there really no subject that is safe from NSG's religion vs atheism debates?

Seems not.

[Seperates]

1. Magic
2. Magic
3. Magic
4. Magic
5. Racism
6. Santa isn't a stage performer/illusionist

I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

...

You do realize that the very concept of 'Christmas' is a pagan tradition, correct? As well, there is long tradition of similarly themed pagan demi-gods that performed similar feats (gifting etc.) on days of feasting. So, regardless of whether or not the miracles that St. Nicholas performed were 'verified', then they are as equally 'verified' as the power of these demi-gods, and the historical tradition behind them and their continuation even into Christian times stands.

Not only that, but what was St. Nicholas really known for? Giving money for the dowrys of poor women. Not giving gifts to children... Well ok, those girls were probably 14-16, but REGARDLESS, the other attributes of St. Nicholas probably come from hold-overs of pagan tradition.

Basically, if one does happen to get a package that no one bought, it's probably from the pagan demi-gods, not St. Nicholas. But on the bright side, at least you were a good little pagan that year.

[The Emerald Legion]

1. Magic
2. Magic
3. Magic
4. Magic
5. Racism
6. Santa isn't a stage performer/illusionist

I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

There is nothing beyond science.

[Seperates]

I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

There is nothing beyond science.

I WILL DO SCIENCE TO IT.

[Qazox]

No, Santa isn't real.

[Aeken]

I would call it more of a miracle than magic. Magic implies Paganism. Saint Nicholas did perform verified miracles, and that power came from God. You cannot use science to disprove something that is beyond science. Also, Santa isn't racist but he only gives gifts to good Christians regardless of race. That is why most people don't get gifts from him, even in the first world.

There is nothing beyond science.

He's bent hard line on that opinion.

[Reploid Productions]

There is nothing beyond science.

I WILL DO SCIENCE TO IT.

Oh god, I just Rule 34ed that. DAMNIT BRAIN STOP DOING TERRIBLE THINGS!

[Seperates]

I WILL DO SCIENCE TO IT.

Oh god, I just Rule 34ed that. DAMNIT BRAIN STOP DOING TERRIBLE THINGS!

*fist pump*
Aww yeah.

[The Grey Wolf]

I WILL DO SCIENCE TO IT.

Oh god, I just Rule 34ed that. DAMNIT BRAIN STOP DOING TERRIBLE THINGS!

You perv, Reppy.