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Postby Caladaria » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:47 pm

:rofl: People here still do not get it....

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Postby Othelos » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:48 pm

Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


1. How on earth would legalizing gay marriage lead to the destruction of marriage?
2. Legalizing gay marriage will not lead to allowing people to marry a person/thing that cannot consent to the marriage.
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Postby Microsol » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:48 pm

Microsol wrote:If that's what Croatia wants then who here can honestly protest? Ruling against the general will of the state's people would be highly undemocratic.

The human rights of minorities are not a popularity contest.[/quote]
Who are you to argue against Croatia's sovereignty? The UN and all these "social justice" organizations are not a world government, Croatia alone has the authority to make this decision within its borders.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:48 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Caladaria wrote:
Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


I'm sure they said the same thing about, say, giving women the right to vote or setting the slaves free or letting African Americans vote and so-on and so-on.

Well, yeah, they did.

"Slavery is for their own good."
"God created the races to marry their own kind."
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Postby Menassa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:49 pm

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:49 pm

Caladaria wrote:
1- Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement.

2 - One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust.

3 - Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization.

4 - This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass.

5 - For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root.

6 - The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


1 - It is a choice not a decision. Their lifestyle doesn't conflict with ours, get the fuck over it.

2 - It is ridiculous to think that way, it's like saying Latinos being citizens would only render meaningless US Citizenship, therefor this point is full of shit.

3 - No it wouldn't, stop making up apocalyptic dreams about the illuminati.

4 - Technology is a good thing, and God has nothing to do with gay marriage under the law. Get over yourself and your God delusions.

5 - Slippery Slope argument is not even funny, it doesn't even make sense. There are things that won't happen.

6 - Your science fiction has nothing to do with reality, although it's cute.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:50 pm

Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


Well, that truly is one brilliant piece of shit of a melodramatic falsehoods-filled, logically faulty rambling. Not a single sourced claim, not a single actual argument, and with lots of hubris to boot. It's almost as if you wanted us to believe this asinine, baselessly slippery-slopey, pot-calling pile of slimy crap.

GIVE THIS GUY A FUCKING ACADEMY AWARD FOR BEST SCRIPT!
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Postby Microsol » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:50 pm

Caladaria wrote::rofl: People here still do not get it....

Why are you surprised? This community is terrible and can never take jokes.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:50 pm

Liriena wrote:
Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


Well, that truly is one brilliant piece of shit of a melodramatic falsehoods-filled, logically faulty rambling. Not a single sourced claim, not a single actual argument, and with lots of hubris to boot. It's almost as if you wanted us to believe this asinine, baselessly slippery-slopey, pot-calling pile of slimy crap.

GIVE THIS GUY A FUCKING ACADEMY AWARD FOR BEST SCRIPT!

Give him his own toilet paper line as well so he can print it on them.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:50 pm

Caladaria wrote::rofl: People here still do not get it....

Pot, meet kettle.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:51 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.

Anyone else feel like they're reading a roll of toilet paper?

It's almost like that lesbian girl's autobiography in V for Vendetta... except that one was more believable than this.
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Postby Caladaria » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:52 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.

Oh my fucking God, not this shit again.

"Holy shit! Two men getting married! Now people are going to marry their pets!" :palm:

Two men or two women are both consenting humans who agree to get married, both of which have legal rights. Dogs and other animals are pets which cannot give consent to a marriage, have no legal rights, and cannot marry. This shitty, overused argument is fucking stupid and I am no longer going to bother replying to you're posts.


Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Anyone else feel like they're reading a roll of toilet paper?

It's almost like that lesbian girl's autobiography in V for Vendetta... except that one was more believable than this.

It's almost as realistic as Atlas Shrugged...almost
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:53 pm

Caladaria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Oh my fucking God, not this shit again.

"Holy shit! Two men getting married! Now people are going to marry their pets!" :palm:

Two men or two women are both consenting humans who agree to get married, both of which have legal rights. Dogs and other animals are pets which cannot give consent to a marriage, have no legal rights, and cannot marry. This shitty, overused argument is fucking stupid and I am no longer going to bother replying to you're posts.


Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.

$5 says that this guy has a stash full of lesbian porn. *nods*
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:53 pm

Caladaria wrote:Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.

Well, finally you admit the truth: Your opposition to same-sex marriage revolves around your own selfish emotional reactions to other people's romantic behaviour! Congratu-fucking-lations!
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
Caladaria wrote:Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.

Well, finally you admit the truth: Your opposition to same-sex marriage revolves around your own selfish emotional reactions to other people's romantic behaviour! Congratu-fucking-lations!

This text hurt my eyes more than gay marriage ever could.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:54 pm

Menassa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Or "tranny".
[...]

That's a derogatory term?

I've got some repenting to do.

Indeed you do. :P
But it's alright. We love you anyway. :hug:
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I am:
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Political compass stuff:
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Othelos wrote:
Caladaria wrote:Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.


1. How on earth would legalizing gay marriage lead to the destruction of civilization?

Caladaria needs to travel to a place where it's legal and witness civilization still alive and well.
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Postby Blasveck » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Caladaria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Oh my fucking God, not this shit again.

"Holy shit! Two men getting married! Now people are going to marry their pets!" :palm:

Two men or two women are both consenting humans who agree to get married, both of which have legal rights. Dogs and other animals are pets which cannot give consent to a marriage, have no legal rights, and cannot marry. This shitty, overused argument is fucking stupid and I am no longer going to bother replying to you're posts.


Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.


Really? That's your argument? It's icky?

How mature. Really, no, I can tell you're very emotionally developed that the reason you don't want gay marriage legalized is because you think it's icky.

I say we ban carrot cake as well. It's such a disgusting food.
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Postby Othelos » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Caladaria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Oh my fucking God, not this shit again.

"Holy shit! Two men getting married! Now people are going to marry their pets!" :palm:

Two men or two women are both consenting humans who agree to get married, both of which have legal rights. Dogs and other animals are pets which cannot give consent to a marriage, have no legal rights, and cannot marry. This shitty, overused argument is fucking stupid and I am no longer going to bother replying to you're posts.


Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.


Gays = gross, so they shouldn't be able to marry?

Cats = gross, let's outlaw them.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Liriena wrote:Well, finally you admit the truth: Your opposition to same-sex marriage revolves around your own selfish emotional reactions to other people's romantic behaviour! Congratu-fucking-lations!

This text hurt my eyes more than gay marriage ever could.

The colouring was waaaaaaaay over the top, I agree, but I wanted to add some emphasis. :P
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Liriena wrote:Well, finally you admit the truth: Your opposition to same-sex marriage revolves around your own selfish emotional reactions to other people's romantic behaviour! Congratu-fucking-lations!

This text hurt my eyes more than gay marriage ever could.


:rofl:

Same here :p
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

:clap:
Microsol wrote:
Flaming Soul Forces wrote:Apparently the Croats are going to have a referendum on Sunday in order to vote for a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage. Personally I'm surprised because I had the impression that Croatia was becoming more LGBT-friendly. Hopefully Croats will turn this proposal down.

http://www.presseurop.eu/en/content/art ... revolution

Opinions anyone?

If that's what Croatia wants then who here can honestly protest? Ruling against the general will of the state's people would be highly undemocratic.

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Postby Menassa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's a derogatory term?

I've got some repenting to do.

Indeed you do. :P
But it's alright. We love you anyway. :hug:

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:56 pm

Caladaria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Oh my fucking God, not this shit again.

"Holy shit! Two men getting married! Now people are going to marry their pets!" :palm:

Two men or two women are both consenting humans who agree to get married, both of which have legal rights. Dogs and other animals are pets which cannot give consent to a marriage, have no legal rights, and cannot marry. This shitty, overused argument is fucking stupid and I am no longer going to bother replying to you're posts.


Fine...I'm done arguing with you people....There are some people who just don't understand.....Gay people should not have the right to marriage, and they should never be allowed to do so...All you here believe that gay marriage is jolly; two men kissing each other in front of an altar, two women kissing each other...oh, the images! Such a horrible institution would come into place....Cannot bear whenever on the news I see images of two elderly women, or two men, or one "masculine" woman and one "feminine" woman being able to marry.....Cannot bear those images of they being able to marry...........Why God.....Such disgusting, wrong images.

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