Same-sex marriage ban referendum in Croatia

[Mavorpen]

Delusional? You're one who agrees with them on this issue....And I am not delusional. And yes, I am African-American, and believe that what we had to endure in this country has been of a higher scale then what gays had to endure.....Now I see that you're one, lambasting me, just because I have tried to argue about our predicament but nevertheless oppose gay marriage.

Black Americans haven't had any discrimination against them since the 1960s. Homosexual Americans have had discrimination since the Americas were colonized, and still face discrimination.

Uh... that's not true. Blacks still face a significant amount of discrimination in the United States.

The point is that we don't face any discrimination that homosexuals also do not face.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

But me and Marv do, and we are both telling you you are full of shit.

Everyone on this site is somebody influenced by all of the media which they have seen, to believe in this gay marriage institution...How sad.........

1: Most media is against same-sex marriage.
2: "gay marriage institution" Fucking really? Is that what the cool kids call same-sex marriage now?
3: "How sad" Boo freaking who; lemme play you a sad song on the world's smallest violin.

[Mavorpen]

What does our past have to do with current discrimination of homosexuals?

Abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

That is what I have tried to say.....You don't understand the full meaning of my argument. Civil rights are not the same as gay rights...our past cannot be equated with what has happened to homosexuals. That's all I've been trying to say......There's no one here who agrees with me on this important issue.

Great, so gay marriage should be legal.

Got it.

[Liriena]

But me and Marv do, and we are both telling you you are full of shit.

Everyone on this site is somebody influenced by all of the media which they have seen, to believe in this gay marriage institution...How sad.........

False. I was influenced by scientific research, introspection and experience to believe in equal rights for LGBT people. It's not sad at all. What I find sad is that you continue to whine about those you consider to be on the "wrong" side of this debate, when all of them have, thus far, presented far better arguments than you have in your entire stay in NS.

[Caladaria]

Delusional? You're one who agrees with them on this issue....And I am not delusional. And yes, I am African-American, and believe that what we had to endure in this country has been of a higher scale then what gays had to endure.....Now I see that you're one, lambasting me, just because I have tried to argue about our predicament but nevertheless oppose gay marriage.

Black Americans haven't had any discrimination against them since the 1960s. Homosexual Americans have had discrimination since the Americas were colonized, and still face discrimination.

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

[Othelos]

You're African American?

Wow, you're more delusional than I initially thought.

Delusional? You're one who agrees with them on this issue....And I am not delusional. And yes, I am African-American, and believe that what we had to endure in this country has been of a higher scale then what gays had to endure.....Now I see that you're one, lambasting me, just because I have tried to argue about our predicament but nevertheless oppose gay marriage.

Okay. So you think that LBGT people aren't murdered just because of who they are, just like blacks used to be? You don't think LGBT people face similar discrimination that blacks had to deal with in the workplace/community/wherever?

[The Shia Califate]

What does our past have to do with current discrimination of homosexuals?

Abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

That is what I have tried to say.....You don't understand the full meaning of my argument. Civil rights are not the same as gay rights...our past cannot be equated with what has happened to homosexuals. That's all I've been trying to say......There's no one here who agrees with me on this important issue.

I don't even understand your points.

[Liriena]

There's no one here who agrees with me on this important issue.

Why would anyone in their right minds agree with you on a simplistic, uninformed and blatant red herring?

[The Shia Califate]

I'm African-American myself: why would you think I would be posting this...I'm not some white hypocrite trying to post crap just because.

You're African American?

Wow, you're more delusional than I initially thought.

What does race have to do with political beliefs?

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Black Americans haven't had any discrimination against them since the 1960s. Homosexual Americans have had discrimination since the Americas were colonized, and still face discrimination.

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

I don't care. Racism has nothing to do with homophobia anyway, and black people who live in the US have (pretty much) complete equality under the law.

[Liriena]

Black Americans haven't had any discrimination against them since the 1960s. Homosexual Americans have had discrimination since the Americas were colonized, and still face discrimination.

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

[The Shia Califate]

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

Nope.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

But me and Marv do, and we are both telling you you are full of shit.

Everyone on this site is somebody influenced by all of the media which they have seen, to believe in this gay marriage institution...How sad.........

I don't even watch the media, which shows how little you pretend to know about me.

How about I have talked to people who are homosexual and I have had homosexual peers who would like to see themselves married with someone their own sex for a change? How about me and my beliefs being formed around equality for all people? How about me not being a condescending asshole and actually following God's word which says we must love our neighbor as we love ourselves regardless of their beliefs?

I have nothing against them because of my belief system. As long as they let me be in peace I am okay with them marrying and getting together. Also, Marv is African American, I am Latino, hence I can't speak for African Americans, but I can speak about my own experiences, which are not "liberal media sheeple commentaries" like you claim.

[Caladaria]

Everyone on this site is somebody influenced by all of the media which they have seen, to believe in this gay marriage institution...How sad.........

False. I was influenced by scientific research, introspection and experience to believe in equal rights for LGBT people. It's not sad at all. What I find sad is that you continue to whine about those you consider to be on the "wrong" side of this debate, when all of them have, thus far, presented far better arguments than you have in your entire stay in NS.

Thus far I have presented arguments which are the truth, more so then your claims. You have presented your arguments, driven by your motivation to secure the right to gay marriage for yourself and others.....Your arguments have not been based on common sense, and have ignored historical, social, biological, religious, moral, and political considerations. You have warped all of my points and may me seem like the bad guy...You truly think that your right to gay marriage is the same as civil rights for African-Americans, and you are blinded that we (blacks) have not faced any further discrimination...You have been misled.

[Liriena]

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

I don't care. Racism has nothing to do with homophobia anyway, and black people who live in the US have (pretty much) complete equality under the law.

As far as I can tell, institutionalized racism in the United States has mostly vanished nowadays. Most racism, as far as I can tell, is sociocultural now.

[Caladaria]

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

I don't care. Racism has nothing to do with homophobia anyway, and black people who live in the US have (pretty much) complete equality under the law.

You don't care? Then why should I care about your rights then if you don't care about civil rights for others......Why should I care about you being able to marry amongst yourselves, when you ignore the wider reality.

[Mavorpen]

Wrong.....wrong...wrong.....Economic discrimination, lower standards of living, a underground racism continue to exist against African-Americans....Wrong, wrong, wrong you are.

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

Seriously. You even face shit that we don't.

Black people aren't banned from donating blood. Black people can get married.

[The Shia Califate]

I don't care. Racism has nothing to do with homophobia anyway, and black people who live in the US have (pretty much) complete equality under the law.

You don't care? Then why should I care about your rights then if you don't care about civil rights for others......Why should I care about you being able to marry amongst yourselves, when you ignore the wider reality.

No words to describe how much I like this post.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

False. I was influenced by scientific research, introspection and experience to believe in equal rights for LGBT people. It's not sad at all. What I find sad is that you continue to whine about those you consider to be on the "wrong" side of this debate, when all of them have, thus far, presented far better arguments than you have in your entire stay in NS.

Thus far I have presented arguments which are the truth, more so then your claims. You have presented your arguments, driven by your motivation to secure the right to gay marriage for yourself and others.....Your arguments have not been based on common sense, and have ignored historical, social, biological, religious, moral, and political considerations. You have warped all of my points and may be seem like the bad guy...You truly think that your right to gay marriage is the same as civil rights for African-Americans, and you are blinded that we (blacks) have not faced any further discrimination...You have been misled.

[Citation Needed]

Oh, and 'Civil Rights' are equal to human rights, making LGBT rights equivalent to civil rights.

[Othelos]

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

Nope.

Black people never had to worry about being ostracized from their family, and I doubt many worry about walking down the street and being attacked/murdered by random people for just being who they are.

[Liriena]

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

Nope.

Oh, excuse me... I suppose LGBT people today are not evicted, fired, assaulted, raped, disowned, killed or even marginalized by the state itself. All those statistics are merely hallucinations, right? Listen to your-fucking-self.

[Blasveck]

Funny how LGBT today suffer through pretty much the same, if not even worse.

Seriously. You even face shit that we don't.

Black people aren't banned from donating blood. Black people can get married.

*flips table*

What?

What?

[The Shia Califate]

Nope.

Black people never had to worry about being ostracized from their family, and I doubt many worry about walking down the street and being attacked/murdered by random people for just being who they are.

Uh, what? Have you not heard of lynching? I heard a story just the other day about a black man that was hitchhiking who got his body mutilated and dragged from a chain behind a truck owned by members of the KKK. But no, you're the victim.

[Mavorpen]

Nope.

Black people never had to worry about being ostracized from their family, and I doubt many worry about walking down the street and being attacked/murdered by random people for just being who they are.

That's not entirely true, partially because homosexuals can hide their sexuality, while black people can't hide their skin color.

But if homosexuals couldn't hide their sexuality, this would absolutely be true.

[Caladaria]

You don't care? Then why should I care about your rights then if you don't care about civil rights for others......Why should I care about you being able to marry amongst yourselves, when you ignore the wider reality.

No words to describe how much I like this post.

Well thank you, if you mean it in that sense.......This is also directed at Liriena and Blasveck: If you don't care about the predicament of African-Americans, then why should I care about you being able to marry your partners....