Same-sex marriage ban referendum in Croatia

[Wind in the Willows]

It's up to the citizens.

[Petacada]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

[Farnhamia]

I don't remember being invited to any same-sex weddings in either place.

Probably because you weren't in one of the areas where it was legal.

Which is too bad, because they partied like crazy.

I honestly have never heard of same-sex marriages being legal in either place. I'd appreciate some sauce. Gravy will do, in the aftermath of Thanksgiving.

[Liriena]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

Mass Effect says gay marriage is fine.

[Liriena]

It's up to the citizens.

No, not really.

[4years]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

So? Who cares what the bible says? It is demonstrably wrong on most issues, was written by humans hundreds of years in the past, and contains nothing more than a shitty moral system and outdated instructions for everyday life. Not to mention that religious assertions are in no way show or from valid ground for governmental policies.

Further, I demand consistency: If you support banning same sex marriage because the bible saysit is wrong then you must also support murder, infanticide, and genocide as the bible says they are just fine.

[Mavorpen]

Probably because you weren't in one of the areas where it was legal.

Which is too bad, because they partied like crazy.

I honestly have never heard of same-sex marriages being legal in either place. I'd appreciate some sauce. Gravy will do, in the aftermath of Thanksgiving.

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/ ... fss_papers

I'm trying to recall the name of the region which we have information of there being same sex ceremonies in Mesopotamia.

[Bolrieg]

it seems to me that they just want to say "insert Ustase joke here________"

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

So? Who cares what the bible says? It is demonstrably wrong on most issues, was written by humans hundreds of years in the past, and contains nothing more than a shitty moral system and outdated instructions for everyday life. Not to mention that religious assertions are in no way show or from valid ground for governmental policies.

Further, I demand consistency: If you support banning same sex marriage because the bible says it is wrong then you must also support murder, infanticide, and genocide as the bible says they are just fine.

Oh, so that's why I saw those muslim children going to a dark room in the church and we could hear their moans once you entered those huge double doors!

[Petacada]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

So? Who cares what the bible says? It is demonstrably wrong on most issues, was written by humans hundreds of years in the past, and contains nothing more than a shitty moral system and outdated instructions for everyday life. Not to mention that religious assertions are in no way show or from valid ground for governmental policies.
Further, I demand consistency: If you support banning same sex marriage because the bible saysit is wrong then you must also support murder, infanticide, and genocide as the bible says they are just fine.

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

[The Shia Califate]

So? Who cares what the bible says? It is demonstrably wrong on most issues, was written by humans hundreds of years in the past, and contains nothing more than a shitty moral system and outdated instructions for everyday life. Not to mention that religious assertions are in no way show or from valid ground for governmental policies.
Further, I demand consistency: If you support banning same sex marriage because the bible saysit is wrong then you must also support murder, infanticide, and genocide as the bible says they are just fine.

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

I'm fairly certain the villains of the bible are the ones in favor of genocide.

[European Socialist Republic]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

Why should religion have the monopoly on deciding the definition of marriage?

[The Shia Califate]

It's up to the citizens.

Exactly my point.

[The Shia Califate]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

Why should religion have the monopoly on deciding the definition of marriage?

Why should something else not?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

The bible is outdated in historical perspective because the customs and traditions are those only within context of Israel, and a very agrarian and fledging country at that, so their law works for them within the context of the circumstances they were brought to the land, and as such Jews are respected in my opinion at least because they have held the traditions of their land.

The fact that we took them up, added some nice confetti and called it "The Bible" and nobody bothered to double check their "canon" shit is irrelevant. Religiously it's relevant, but historically? We don't follow most of the thing so why is it not outdated?

[San Lumen]

It's up to the citizens.

Exactly my point.

Let me ask you this what if the referendum was only straight Christians could marry and all others were banned? And the people voted in favor would that be okay with you?

[European Socialist Republic]

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

I'm fairly certain the villains of the bible are the ones in favor of genocide.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.be/ ... bible.html
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_o ... ing_people

[The Shia Califate]

Exactly my point.

Let me ask you this what if the referendum was only straight Christians could marry and all others were banned? And the people voted in favor would that be okay with you?

I wouldn't be a fan of it, and if I was a Croatian I'd probably oppose it. But, seeing as I'm not, it's up to them.

[The Shia Califate]

I'm fairly certain the villains of the bible are the ones in favor of genocide.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.be/ ... bible.html
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_o ... ing_people

"Evilbible.com" made me chuckle.

[European Socialist Republic]

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.be/ ... bible.html
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_o ... ing_people

"Evilbible.com" made me chuckle.

Laughing at the site's name does not refute it...

[Liriena]

So? Who cares what the bible says? It is demonstrably wrong on most issues, was written by humans hundreds of years in the past, and contains nothing more than a shitty moral system and outdated instructions for everyday life. Not to mention that religious assertions are in no way show or from valid ground for governmental policies.
Further, I demand consistency: If you support banning same sex marriage because the bible saysit is wrong then you must also support murder, infanticide, and genocide as the bible says they are just fine.

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

That the Bible is outdated is pretty much obvious. It was written thousands of years ago, by a civilization that was not particularly brilliant, in a time when our understanding of the universe was basic at best, and our social values were, by today's standards, inhumane.

As for the Bible supporting murder, infanticide and genocide, I direct you to the following summary.

[Sol Nascente]

Good job Croatia .

[Petacada]

The bible explicitly states same sex marriage is wrong:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

Why should religion have the monopoly on deciding the definition of marriage?

Maybe because "religion" invented the idea of marriage

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

That the Bible is outdated is pretty much obvious. It was written thousands of years ago, by a civilization that was not particularly brilliant, in a time when our understanding of the universe was basic at best, and our social values were, by today's standards, inhumane.

As for the Bible supporting murder, infanticide and genocide, I direct you to the following summary.

Well, Jews were particularly brilliant at warfare and getting Canaan from the people it belonged to. So it's not like they are not exactly brilliant.

However, to say the rules, traditions, and religion from 3000 years ago apply to today? No, it's laughable.

[Liriena]

Show me evidence of the bible being outdated and in support of murder and infanticide and genocide.

I'm fairly certain the villains of the bible are the ones in favor of genocide.

Actually... if by villains you mean Satan and the Pharaoh, they are pretty much the least violent or violence-enabling characters in the Bible, other than Jesus.