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Postby Iaeptus » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:21 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
The United Confederacy of Texas wrote:I wish to see Australia as a republic, but would probably look like Canada.

Canada is still in the Commonwealth, meaning that the two countries are on the same footing.

Canada and Australia would probably stay in the Commonwealth without a monarchy. They would just leave the Commonwealth Realm.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:22 am

Australian Independence, YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Go Australia
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:23 am

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Densaner wrote:Good. I hope Australia does become a republic some day. Australia having our head of state seems anachronistic. Britain should also dump the Monarchy as it is an outmoded and cynical system.

Don't tell us what to dump and what not to do. If we want our monarchy we'll keep it. If we don't we'll ditch it. You're views don't matter in the slightest. Just like how I believe that the Aussies (and only the Aussies) should pick: monarchy or republic?

I despise the monarchy, but it's the cornerstone of Britain's cultural identity and what sets us apart from any other cookie-cutter democracy.

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Postby Iaeptus » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:23 am

Zonolia wrote:So probably an dumb question but if Australia does indeed drop Her Majesty...will anything actually change apart from the Queen having absolutely no power? I mean the government system would remain the same minus a Queen right? or...

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Postby Nervium » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:23 am

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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:24 am

Zonolia wrote:So probably an dumb question but if Australia does indeed drop Her Majesty...will anything actually change apart from the Queen having absolutely no power? I mean the government system would remain the same minus a Queen right? or...


Basically. Unless, they change to a presidential system. Plus, there's the bonus of having a native head of state, not having the Jack on their flag. It's kinda like a "reaserting their sovereignty over themselves" thing.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:24 am

Australia should become fully independent from the UK, I mean they are so far from Great Britain and I think most of the world would support them on this

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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:25 am

I am neutral about this issue , I hate republics but i love too that the english influence sphere decreases and i see it as a logical end to the weakness of the constitutional monarchy.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:25 am

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:The Holy Neospanish Empire is neutral about this issue , the empire hates republics but loves too that the english influence sphere decreases and see it as a logical end to the weakness of the constitutional monarchy.


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Postby Iaeptus » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:26 am

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:The Holy Neospanish Empire is neutral about this issue , the empire hates republics but loves too that the english influence sphere decreases and see it as a logical end to the weakness of the constitutional monarchy.

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English influence? England has no influence...
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Postby Petrovia- » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:28 am

Why people are evening swearing allegiance to a Monarch with no power anyway baffles me...
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:29 am

The only thing that would change would be they would need to set up their own military, if they haven't done that already

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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:29 am

Iaeptus wrote:
The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:The Holy Neospanish Empire is neutral about this issue , the empire hates republics but loves too that the english influence sphere decreases and see it as a logical end to the weakness of the constitutional monarchy.

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English influence? England has no influence...


The union jack and some royal ties remaining that is the influence

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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:29 am

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:The only thing that would change would be they would need to set up their own military, if they haven't done that already


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Force
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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:30 am

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The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:The Holy Neospanish Empire is neutral about this issue , the empire hates republics but loves too that the english influence sphere decreases and see it as a logical end to the weakness of the constitutional monarchy.


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Postby Nervium » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:30 am

Petrovia- wrote:Why people are even swearing allegiance to a Monarch with no power anyway baffles me...


Well, some monarchists like the entire pomp around it... Wich republics also have.

Others haven't given up on the childhood dream that they might marry into the Royal Family and miraculously become king/queen.

And others even believe (wrongly) that a monarch with no power is better than an elected head of state accountable to his voters.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:31 am

I support Australia becoming a republic.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:32 am

Nervium wrote:
Petrovia- wrote:Why people are even swearing allegiance to a Monarch with no power anyway baffles me...


Well, some monarchists like the entire pomp around it... Wich republics also have.

Others haven't given up on the childhood dream that they might marry into the Royal Family and miraculously become king/queen.

And others even believe (wrongly) that a monarch with no power is better than an elected head of state accountable to his voters.


This.
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Postby The United Confederacy of Texas » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:38 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
The United Confederacy of Texas wrote:I wish to see Australia as a republic, but would probably look like Canada.

Canada is still in the Commonwealth, meaning that the two countries are on the same footing.

Goddamnit, I completely forgot about that. Well, time to go back to the history books again.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:42 am

Bojikami wrote:I support Australia becoming a republic.

Please explain why it makes even an iota of difference in today's world. I wasn't aware that the Queen or her representatives actively interfered in any of Australia's foreign or domestic policies.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:46 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I support Australia becoming a republic.

Please explain why it makes even an iota of difference in today's world. I wasn't aware that the Queen or her representatives actively interfered in any of Australia's foreign or domestic policies.

To be honest, I wasn't really aware of that either. I just don't like the idea of some foreign monarch having rule over some country that isn't even a part its empire anymore.
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:48 am

A woman called Quentin wants an irrelevant nation to change its government system slightly.

Why should I care?
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Postby K oyena » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:52 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:I despise the monarchy, but it's the cornerstone of Britain's cultural identity and what sets us apart from any other cookie-cutter democracy.
except for Sweden, Spain, Japan, etc. etc.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:54 am

Bojikami wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Please explain why it makes even an iota of difference in today's world. I wasn't aware that the Queen or her representatives actively interfered in any of Australia's foreign or domestic policies.

To be honest, I wasn't really aware of that either. I just don't like the idea of some foreign monarch having rule over some country that isn't even a part its empire anymore.

That's the thing, she doesn't have rule over them. It's a purely ceremonial, honorary thing.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:55 am

The Shia Califate wrote:A woman called Quentin wants an irrelevant nation to change its government system slightly.

Why should I care?


Australia is an irrelevant nation? Do you even geopolitics?

And changing the country's form of government from a monarchy to a republic is a slight change? In practice, yes. Assuming they keep the parliamentary system. On the rest? No.
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