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by Emile Zola » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:46 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:49 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:49 am

by Synkomdi » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:55 am

by Royale Philippines » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:58 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Royale Philippines wrote:This is why I hate republicans. They express themselves freely without feeling any shame at all.
Why would God save them when they have the nerve being atheists.
Why should we be ashamed of loving freedom and democracy? How do we have nerve by not worshipping a nonexistent being?

by Wind in the Willows » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:13 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:16 am
Wind in the Willows wrote:What would be the point? Australia is basically independent, as the Her Majesty Elizabeth II doesn't have any actual power over the government there.

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:18 am
Royale Philippines wrote:Sebtopiaris wrote:Why should we be ashamed of loving freedom and democracy? How do we have nerve by not worshipping a nonexistent being?
How dare you speak against God in such words! This is why those poor nations stay poor as they thought democracy can still save them somehow when the elected officials live like kings and queens while they, the people starve to death!
The difference between a democracy and a constitutional monarchy is almost nothing, presidents live like monarchs!

by Wind in the Willows » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:21 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Royale Philippines wrote:How dare you speak against God in such words! This is why those poor nations stay poor as they thought democracy can still save them somehow when the elected officials live like kings and queens while they, the people starve to death!
The difference between a democracy and a constitutional monarchy is almost nothing, presidents live like monarchs!
What about dem Yankees? They're filthy stinkin' rich and without a monarch.

by Royale Philippines » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:21 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Royale Philippines wrote:How dare you speak against God in such words! This is why those poor nations stay poor as they thought democracy can still save them somehow when the elected officials live like kings and queens while they, the people starve to death!
The difference between a democracy and a constitutional monarchy is almost nothing, presidents live like monarchs!
What about dem Yankees? They're filthy stinkin' rich and without a monarch.

by Wind in the Willows » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:22 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Wind in the Willows wrote:What would be the point? Australia is basically independent, as the Her Majesty Elizabeth II doesn't have any actual power over the government there.
Good point. Seeing as she doesn't have much power, let's make her Queen of The United States as well. You'll keep your government, but she'll be the head of state.


by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:24 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:25 am
Wind in the Willows wrote:Sebtopiaris wrote:Good point. Seeing as she doesn't have much power, let's make her Queen of The United States as well. You'll keep your government, but she'll be the head of state.
Making her Queen of the United States would not affect me in the slightest. I am not American.

by Wind in the Willows » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:26 am

by Vozt Yurkova » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:28 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:32 am
Vozt Yurkova wrote:As an Englishman, I fully endorse an Australian republic and would not personally see it as a slight towards my nation.

by Transhuman Proteus » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:36 am
Synkomdi wrote:Well I refuse to read through 7 pages, so I'm going to dump my thoughts and leave.
Australia should become a Republic. The Governor-General can block any piece of legislation, command the military, and dissolve the parliament. This is simply too much power to be concentrated into one person that isn't chosen by the people. If Australia did become a republic, I believe that the GG should be replaced with a non-executive president chosen by a vote in a joint sitting of the House of Representatives and the Senate (226 seats, 114 needed for an absolute majority). Basically, the President would have much the same powers as before, but they wouldn't be able to use most of them without it being co-signed by the Prime Minister.
Also basically anything similar to that would also work, I rather like the system in France so perhaps something similar.

by Royale Philippines » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:50 am

by Keyboard Warriors » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:07 am
Synkomdi wrote:Well I refuse to read through 7 pages, so I'm going to dump my thoughts and leave.
Australia should become a Republic. The Governor-General can block any piece of legislation, command the military, and dissolve the parliament. This is simply too much power to be concentrated into one person that isn't chosen by the people. If Australia did become a republic, I believe that the GG should be replaced with a non-executive president chosen by a vote in a joint sitting of the House of Representatives and the Senate (226 seats, 114 needed for an absolute majority). Basically, the President would have much the same powers as before, but they wouldn't be able to use most of them without it being co-signed by the Prime Minister.
Also basically anything similar to that would also work, I rather like the system in France so perhaps something similar.

by Conscentia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:09 am
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by Chelta » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:27 am
Emile Zola wrote:To make matters worse the PM at the time deliberately changed the debate from should we become a republic to what form of government should a republic have? Setting of a schism between presidential and parliamentary republicans. And for the public that was way over their heads.
Vuzghulia wrote:An uncivilized nation ... institutions do not meet civilized standards ... barely fit to be called a nation ... the people's beer smells like hobo-urine, their sports are silly and feminine ... your music is ridiculed ... nobody takes your politicians seriously ... it would be a public service if someone invaded and taught your people civilized ways.
Breheim wrote:Chelta is a den of deviants.

by Frostmark » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:31 am

by Socialist Tera » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:42 am
Frostmark wrote:Sebtopiaris wrote:There are better examples of democracies that aren't hell-holes.
Germany is a great example. It's a wonderful social democracy that I'd love to live in.
Germany would be a nice constitutional monarchy. At one stage in 2013 one in five Germans would have supported a restoration, and one in three thought royal houses were still relevant. Supposedly Bavarians would likely not accept the Prussian Hohenzollerns as their monarch now anyway though. The forced deposition of all future Hohenzollerns after the First World War was a shame, placing them into a constitutional role as they likely would have become under Freddy could have worked out better for everyone.
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