Iran Agrees to Nuke Deal

[Kylistan]

So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?

One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.

What sorts of concessions?

[Auxatia]

I support the US in its efforts with Iran, I myself being explicitly Pro-American, even though I am from Australia, where most people aren't really that bothered. I believe negotiation is key, but we must always have our eyes open, as well as our hearts.

[Luziyca]

So, where would the deal be nuked? Iran? Nevada? Bikini Atoll? Russia?

On a serious note, congrats Iran.

[Geilinor]

I've generally felt the same about Israeli leadership going back decades.

So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?

Rabin or someone from Meretz.

[Divair]

So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?

One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.

Rabin

[Geilinor]

One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.

Rabin

There's always Meretz

[Tekania]

One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.

What sorts of concessions?

Concessions are things made when negotiating between two powers over something in order to reach a deal. As such that question cannot be answered except in specific circumstances and in specific negotiations. If you want an example of something that ISN'T a concession, it would be Israeli's idea of a complete dismantling of all nuclear assets in Iran and a refusal to participate in anything but a unilateral surrender of Iran on that issue.

[Kylistan]

What sorts of concessions?

Concessions are things made when negotiating between two powers over something in order to reach a deal. As such that question cannot be answered except in specific circumstances and in specific negotiations. If you want an example of something that ISN'T a concession, it would be Israeli's idea of a complete dismantling of all nuclear assets in Iran and a refusal to participate in anything but a unilateral surrender of Iran on that issue.

I know what a concession is and my question was in reference to the only thing that will ever bring long lasting peace in the Middle East and that would be a settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm just trying to gauge how far you think Israel needs to go with these concessions?

[Kylistan]

Rabin

There's always Meretz

I'm sure the Arabs would love to see a Prime Minister from Meretz. They'd be able to walk all over Israel.

[Gauthier]

Concessions are things made when negotiating between two powers over something in order to reach a deal. As such that question cannot be answered except in specific circumstances and in specific negotiations. If you want an example of something that ISN'T a concession, it would be Israeli's idea of a complete dismantling of all nuclear assets in Iran and a refusal to participate in anything but a unilateral surrender of Iran on that issue.

I know what a concession is and my question was in reference to the only thing that will ever bring long lasting peace in the Middle East and that would be a settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm just trying to gauge how far you think Israel needs to go with these concessions?

If it gets the Prime Minister shot by his own people, then obviously the concession was reasonable enough.

[Geilinor]

There's always Meretz

I'm sure the Arabs would love to see a Prime Minister from Meretz. They'd be able to walk all over Israel.

So the only reasonable solution is what? Nuke Palestine and Iran?

[Kylistan]

I know what a concession is and my question was in reference to the only thing that will ever bring long lasting peace in the Middle East and that would be a settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm just trying to gauge how far you think Israel needs to go with these concessions?

If it gets the Prime Minister shot by his own people, then obviously the concession was reasonable enough.

Your playing off all of Israel as extremist Zionists which isn't the case. American liberals like to call out conservatives for their so called belief that all Muslims are terrorists, yet your making a broad generalization about the Israeli people yourself.

[Kylistan]

I'm sure the Arabs would love to see a Prime Minister from Meretz. They'd be able to walk all over Israel.

So the only reasonable solution is what? Nuke Palestine and Iran?

I don't think that nukes are ever the right solution, but if you seriously believe in Meretz as the best option for Israel, there is a problem.

[Sedikal]

There's always Meretz

I'm sure the Arabs would love to see a Prime Minister from Meretz. They'd be able to walk all over Israel.

They want a peaceful solution to the Palestinian conflict, I don't see how that jetting the Arabs walk all over Israel.

[Divair]

Rabin

There's always Meretz

As much as I love them, they'll never be large enough to have a significant impact. It'll probably be a leader from Labour that ends the conflict.

[Geilinor]

So the only reasonable solution is what? Nuke Palestine and Iran?

I don't think that nukes are ever the right solution, but if you seriously believe in Meretz as the best option for Israel, there is a problem.

Do you believe Likud is the best option? I'd go with Labour or Meretz.

[Kylistan]

I don't think that nukes are ever the right solution, but if you seriously believe in Meretz as the best option for Israel, there is a problem.

Do you believe Likud is the best option? I'd go with Labour or Meretz.

My personal favorite is Yesh Atid because unlike Likud they believe in the two state solution, and they are closer to the center than the other two left wing parties.

[Tekania]

Concessions are things made when negotiating between two powers over something in order to reach a deal. As such that question cannot be answered except in specific circumstances and in specific negotiations. If you want an example of something that ISN'T a concession, it would be Israeli's idea of a complete dismantling of all nuclear assets in Iran and a refusal to participate in anything but a unilateral surrender of Iran on that issue.

I know what a concession is and my question was in reference to the only thing that will ever bring long lasting peace in the Middle East and that would be a settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm just trying to gauge how far you think Israel needs to go with these concessions?

Once again, that depends on the particular content of the negotiation and what is being sought by either side. I'd not expect a unilateral surrender by Israel anymore than opposing parties to be expected to unilaterally surrender on the issue.

[Geilinor]

Do you believe Likud is the best option? I'd go with Labour or Meretz.

My personal favorite is Yesh Atid because unlike Likud they believe in the two state solution, and they are closer to the center than the other two left wing parties.

Yair Lapid also supports the maintenance of settlements and an expansion of conscription. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Lapid

[Divair]

My personal favorite is Yesh Atid because unlike Likud they believe in the two state solution, and they are closer to the center than the other two left wing parties.

Yair Lapid also supports the maintenance of settlements and an expansion of conscription. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Lapid

And what a shit job he has done at being Minister of Finance.

[Distruzio]

Peaceful negotiation is always better than military action when possible.

The words. My mouth. You took them out.

[DogDoo 7]

If it gets the Prime Minister shot by his own people, then obviously the concession was reasonable enough.

Your playing off all of Israel as extremist Zionists which isn't the case. American liberals like to call out conservatives for their so called belief that all Muslims are terrorists, yet your making a broad generalization about the Israeli people yourself.

It's not that we're all extremists, it's that we're quite comfortable with the status quo and are afraid of change.
Go read my links in the I-P thread

[DogDoo 7]

Yair Lapid also supports the maintenance of settlements and an expansion of conscription. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Lapid

And what a shit job he has done at being Minister of Finance.

Well, this was Bibi's strategery. He didn't scheme his way to the top without knowing how to dispose of rivals.

Anyway, Lapid recently said that a 'Jewish and democratic state' is an unsolvable problem for the Arabs. So let's just focus on neo-liberalism instead!

[New Chalcedon]

I feel sorry for Benjy..... it must seem very surreal to him that the US didn't just cave when he complained.

He probably thinks Obama is a closet Muslim too. After all he was campaigning for Mitt the Weathervane during 2012.

I remember. I also remember thinking that if any other national leader, even an allied one, had interfered so blatantly in US politics, the Marines would be camping out on their doorstep the next day.

But because it was Israel, it was apparently OK for Netanyahu to sabotage the US-Israeli relationship.

[DogDoo 7]

He probably thinks Obama is a closet Muslim too. After all he was campaigning for Mitt the Weathervane during 2012.

I remember. I also remember thinking that if any other national leader, even an allied one, had interfered so blatantly in US politics, the Marines would be camping out on their doorstep the next day.

But because it was Israel, it was apparently OK for Netanyahu to sabotage the US-Israeli relationship.

It definitely has created a rift. There's enough AIPAC pressure on the democrats that it hasn't resulted in a complete breakdown, but that kerry interview was a game changer. Now as long as we keep the zionists (I'm looking at you, schumer) from the state department, then maybe something productive will happen.