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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:49 pm

Virana wrote:
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Trying to predict the actions of the Iranian government by using common sense is like trying pass a history test by studying biology. It simply doesn't work as the Iranian governments actions generally are unpredictable.

They're fairly predictable.

If you replace their democratically elected, Soviet-aligned government with a brutal dictator, they will eventually take their government back and then hate you for the next few decades.


Soviet...aligned?

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:18 pm

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Then what is everyone belly aching about?


The fact that we have recognized Iran's right to enrich uranium.[/quote
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:27 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Well I guess that's a good thing, anything to avert our previously inevitable slide towards invading Iran.

Funny that most of the people condemning the deal fall back to the same tired old lies and the exact same tired old sources that are proven to be lies.

I mean the CIA and Mossad both said Iran aren't anywhere near having a nuke, who should we believe, some world leaders or the people who's job is to know these sort of things?

The only person who keeps insisting Iran is getting a nuke is Netanyahu who, as his actions are beginning to show, is mentally unstable.


Benjy's just butthurt that dirty darkies aren't staying in their proper place at the stone age.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:30 pm

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The Lone Alliance wrote:Well I guess that's a good thing, anything to avert our previously inevitable slide towards invading Iran.

Funny that most of the people condemning the deal fall back to the same tired old lies and the exact same tired old sources that are proven to be lies.

I mean the CIA and Mossad both said Iran aren't anywhere near having a nuke, who should we believe, some world leaders or the people who's job is to know these sort of things?

The only person who keeps insisting Iran is getting a nuke is Netanyahu who, as his actions are beginning to show, is mentally unstable.


Benjy's just butthurt that dirty darkies aren't staying in their proper place at the stone age.


I feel sorry for Benjy..... it must seem very surreal to him that the US didn't just cave when he complained.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:34 pm

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Benjy's just butthurt that dirty darkies aren't staying in their proper place at the stone age.


I feel sorry for Benjy..... it must seem very surreal to him that the US didn't just cave when he complained.


He probably thinks Obama is a closet Muslim too. After all he was campaigning for Mitt the Weathervane during 2012.
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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:43 pm

What's with all of these shots on Benjamin Netanyahu? You guys are acting like he's the Devil.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:44 pm

Kylistan wrote:What's with all of these shots on Benjamin Netanyahu? You guys are acting like he's the Devil.

Comes pretty close, although I put a lot of blame on Yair Lapid nowadays as well.

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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:45 pm

Kylistan wrote:What's with all of these shots on Benjamin Netanyahu? You guys are acting like he's the Devil.


No, I'm acting like he's the top dog in Israel right now.
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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:48 pm

Tekania wrote:
Kylistan wrote:What's with all of these shots on Benjamin Netanyahu? You guys are acting like he's the Devil.


No, I'm acting like he's the top dog in Israel right now.


What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:50 pm

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No, I'm acting like he's the top dog in Israel right now.


What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?

Criticizing one politician means you're opposed to that country's existence? What? Then we've got a lot of posters opposed to the existence of the US...
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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:52 pm

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What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?

Criticizing one politician means you're opposed to that country's existence? What? Then we've got a lot of posters opposed to the existence of the US...


He said he was making fun of him because he was "Israel's top dog." Could you explain to me what he means by this?
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:54 pm

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No, I'm acting like he's the top dog in Israel right now.


What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?


That mean that the US has a tendency to bow whenever Israel complains; that our position of aiding Israel has always been a contentious element given that have a long history of reneging on deals, lying to us; and we've had a long history of bowing everytime something isn't going their way, or someconcession is being made that they don't like. And that I have been a long time advocate of cutting Israel off from support from the US. That Benji is currently the man in charge there, and so therefore when he complains and we keep dealing he must find the experience odd.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?

Criticizing one politician means you're opposed to that country's existence? What? Then we've got a lot of posters opposed to the existence of the US...


Indeed, criticizing Israeli leadership = wanting to destroy all of Israel

I wonder what that says about all the conservatives criticizing current US leadership.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:56 pm

Kylistan wrote:What's with all of these shots on Benjamin Netanyahu? You guys are acting like he's the Devil.
No, just a guy with a bad case of PTSD who sees Iranians under the bed and still thinks he's on the front lines of the Arab Israeli Wars.

He's also an arrogant prat.
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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:56 pm

Tekania wrote:
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What's that supposed mean? Are you against Israel's existence or something?


That mean that the US has a tendency to bow whenever Israel complains; that our position of aiding Israel has always been a contentious element given that have a long history of reneging on deals, lying to us; and we've had a long history of bowing everytime something isn't going their way, or someconcession is being made that they don't like. And that I have been a long time advocate of cutting Israel off from support from the US. That Benji is currently the man in charge there, and so therefore when he complains and we keep dealing he must find the experience odd.


So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Kylistan wrote:
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That mean that the US has a tendency to bow whenever Israel complains; that our position of aiding Israel has always been a contentious element given that have a long history of reneging on deals, lying to us; and we've had a long history of bowing everytime something isn't going their way, or someconcession is being made that they don't like. And that I have been a long time advocate of cutting Israel off from support from the US. That Benji is currently the man in charge there, and so therefore when he complains and we keep dealing he must find the experience odd.


So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?


The one Prime Minister who made significant breakthroughs was Yitzak Rabin, and we saw what the Israeli public thought of him.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Kylistan wrote:
Tekania wrote:
That mean that the US has a tendency to bow whenever Israel complains; that our position of aiding Israel has always been a contentious element given that have a long history of reneging on deals, lying to us; and we've had a long history of bowing everytime something isn't going their way, or someconcession is being made that they don't like. And that I have been a long time advocate of cutting Israel off from support from the US. That Benji is currently the man in charge there, and so therefore when he complains and we keep dealing he must find the experience odd.


So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?


I've generally felt the same about Israeli leadership going back decades.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Kylistan wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Criticizing one politician means you're opposed to that country's existence? What? Then we've got a lot of posters opposed to the existence of the US...


He said he was making fun of him because he was "Israel's top dog." Could you explain to me what he means by this?

He means that Netanyahu is the head of government and that Israel has often gotten the US into trouble. For example, blind support of Israel caused the US to lose UNESCO voting rights. Netanyahu is also the only person claiming that Iran is going to nuke Israel.
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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Tekania wrote:
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So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?


I've generally felt the same about Israeli leadership going back decades.


So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:01 pm

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So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?


The one Prime Minister who made significant breakthroughs was Yitzak Rabin, and we saw what the Israeli public thought of him.


Indeed, one of the few exceptions. Of course, it does proof the oppositions idea that supporting peace can lead to Israeli death.... just not in the way they supposed it to mean.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Kylistan wrote:
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I've generally felt the same about Israeli leadership going back decades.


So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?


One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Kylistan wrote:
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That mean that the US has a tendency to bow whenever Israel complains; that our position of aiding Israel has always been a contentious element given that have a long history of reneging on deals, lying to us; and we've had a long history of bowing everytime something isn't going their way, or someconcession is being made that they don't like. And that I have been a long time advocate of cutting Israel off from support from the US. That Benji is currently the man in charge there, and so therefore when he complains and we keep dealing he must find the experience odd.


So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?

Olmert was in the same party as Netanyahu until 2006 and had similar policy. He also supports "disproportionate" military response, which is one of the strangest things I've heard a politician say.
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Postby Kolkatta » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:04 pm

Kylistan wrote:Well it appears as if diplomatic talks between Iran and 6 world powers (The United States, France, Germany, Britain, China and Russia) have provided some sort of deal on how to handle Iran's nuclear program. President Obama gave a late night briefing to the press, but details on the deal remain largely unknown except for the fact that if Iran complies to whatever the world powers are asking, they will be given access to $4.2 billion in foreign exchange. This may be a step in the right direction for a safer world, but I believe that many of us will be disappointed once the details come out. The Obama White House has had an uncomfortably soft stance on Iran, thus I'm weary to trust his administration in negotiations with them. So Nation States, what do you think about Obama's stance on Iran, and do you think that this deal will create a safer world, or a more dangerous one?

Details on the Deal Revealed:
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-nuclear-deal-reached-geneva-021222943.html

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Postby Kylistan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:04 pm

Gauthier wrote:
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So when Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, did you feel the same way about him?


The one Prime Minister who made significant breakthroughs was Yitzak Rabin, and we saw what the Israeli public thought of him.


That's the equivalent of saying that the US public hated JFK just because one bad apple (or maybe two, but that's a different debate) decided to shoot him. Basing the views of an entire nation on one person is preposterous.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:05 pm

Tekania wrote:
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So then what would the policies be of your ideal Prime Minister of Israel?


One who would seek an honest end to the Palestinian issue. One willing to make some concessions for peace in the region. Or in short the Israeli PM most likely to get assassinated by his own people.

"His own people" didn't exactly support his assassination, if that's what you're saying. He got voted number one in a poll of the greatest Israelis.
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