Iran Agrees to Nuke Deal

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

Good, a step towards normal relations

[Sedikal]

But we at least have an idea just like scientist have idea on how things work made from hard analysis and observations. You say the president is acting independently (or at least that's what I'm getting from this) but who's to say the president is acting on behalf of the supreme leader? We need to at least trust one another on an international level or else progress will never happen. An allied Iran would be so much better for Iran and the United States. Iran understands that if they keep this up with the chase for weaponized uranium then they will end up in more economic trouble and they understand that if they were to use nuclear weapons they would have to deal with the west which flanks them on three sides plus Russia wouldn't be to happy about a unclearly aggressive Iran. They want economic and diplomatic growth which will not happen if they obtain nuclear weapons and they understand this they have seen the sorry state of North Korea and fear the same will happen to them.

That's what you think they want, but you don't really know what they want (and neither do I). You think that they would never fire nuclear weapons, but how do you know that? The bottom line is that nobody except for the leader(s) of Iran truly know how Iran is thinking and what Iran wants, and due to this, Iran remains one of the more dangerous countries in the world.

It's common sense to say they wouldn't because they have more to gain to not have one then to obtain one. The Iranian government aren't stupid and they know what would happen of they went nuclear. You say you don't know what they will do, well if you don't know then us common sense and try to understand there position in the world and how it would affect them. I say this because this is what makes logical sense.

[Kylistan]

They are upset because the deal allows for Iran to continue enriching uranium which poses a threat towards Israel's well being.

1. It does not allow Iran to continue enriching uranium anywhere near the level they need to produce a nuclear weapon.
2. Israel is responsible for nuclear proliferation on a far more significant scale than Iran, refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and is believed to have numerous nuclear-capable weapons.
3. Common sense says Israel most likely is not going to be hit by a nuclear weapon from Iran.

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

[Sedikal]

1. It does not allow Iran to continue enriching uranium anywhere near the level they need to produce a nuclear weapon.
2. Israel is responsible for nuclear proliferation on a far more significant scale than Iran, refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and is believed to have numerous nuclear-capable weapons.
3. Common sense says Israel most likely is not going to be hit by a nuclear weapon from Iran.

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

Because he knows that Iran wouldn't agree to it. Diplomacy is all about compromise and in order to make things safer he had to compromise on his original policy. They can't make weapons with the uranium there allowed to produce so what's to worry about?

[Kylistan]

That's what you think they want, but you don't really know what they want (and neither do I). You think that they would never fire nuclear weapons, but how do you know that? The bottom line is that nobody except for the leader(s) of Iran truly know how Iran is thinking and what Iran wants, and due to this, Iran remains one of the more dangerous countries in the world.

It's common sense to say they wouldn't because they have more to gain to not have one then to obtain one. The Iranian government aren't stupid and they know what would happen of they went nuclear. You say you don't know what they will do, well if you don't know then us common sense and try to understand there position in the world and how it would affect them. I say this because this is what makes logical sense.

Trying to predict the actions of the Iranian government by using common sense is like trying pass a history test by studying biology. It simply doesn't work as the Iranian governments actions generally are unpredictable.

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

1. It does not allow Iran to continue enriching uranium anywhere near the level they need to produce a nuclear weapon.
2. Israel is responsible for nuclear proliferation on a far more significant scale than Iran, refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and is believed to have numerous nuclear-capable weapons.
3. Common sense says Israel most likely is not going to be hit by a nuclear weapon from Iran.

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

Iran shouldn't be forced to have the same problem America has, energy dependency. That's just stupid. Plus, the U.S. doesn't have the right to tell people not to make or use nukes to begin with and we're the only country that doesn't have the right to say that

[Kylistan]

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

Because he knows that Iran wouldn't agree to it. Diplomacy is all about compromise and in order to make things safer he had to compromise on his original policy. They can't make weapons with the uranium there allowed to produce so what's to worry about?

Obama's original policy was a compromise to begin with. He actually recognized Iran's right to use nuclear power as an energy source which was a policy that many Americans were not happy with.

[Sedikal]

It's common sense to say they wouldn't because they have more to gain to not have one then to obtain one. The Iranian government aren't stupid and they know what would happen of they went nuclear. You say you don't know what they will do, well if you don't know then us common sense and try to understand there position in the world and how it would affect them. I say this because this is what makes logical sense.

Trying to predict the actions of the Iranian government by using common sense is like trying pass a history test by studying biology. It simply doesn't work as the Iranian governments actions generally are unpredictable.

There "Unpredictable"? How they have made logical choices to improve there nations standing you just saw that last night. Ahmadinejad was Oran's main wild card and was considered an embarrassment but he's out of the equation now.

Because he knows that Iran wouldn't agree to it. Diplomacy is all about compromise and in order to make things safer he had to compromise on his original policy. They can't make weapons with the uranium there allowed to produce so what's to worry about?

Obama's original policy was a compromise to begin with. He actually recognized Iran's right to use nuclear power as an energy source which was a policy that many Americans were not happy with.

But it didn't recognize there right to self-production which he needed to compromise on to obtain a deal.

[Kylistan]

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

Iran shouldn't be forced to have the same problem America has, energy dependency. That's just stupid. Plus, the U.S. doesn't have the right to tell people not to make or use nukes to begin with and we're the only country that doesn't have the right to say that

Iran has oil. If they really wanted to they could be completely energy independent which makes the fact that they wish to use nuclear energy as a power source even more questionable.

[Tekania]

1. It does not allow Iran to continue enriching uranium anywhere near the level they need to produce a nuclear weapon.
2. Israel is responsible for nuclear proliferation on a far more significant scale than Iran, refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and is believed to have numerous nuclear-capable weapons.
3. Common sense says Israel most likely is not going to be hit by a nuclear weapon from Iran.

But what was wrong with President Obama's original policy? he said that Iran couldn't enrich uranium within their borders, rather they could import enriched nuclear fuel if they wished to use nuclear power as a source of energy. This seems fair to both sides, and much safer than the terms that were agreed to last night.

Because Iran, from experience, has found relying on external sources of uranium enrichment alone is a serious detriment to their nation. It has been used as a weapon against them in the past.

[Virana]

It's common sense to say they wouldn't because they have more to gain to not have one then to obtain one. The Iranian government aren't stupid and they know what would happen of they went nuclear. You say you don't know what they will do, well if you don't know then us common sense and try to understand there position in the world and how it would affect them. I say this because this is what makes logical sense.

Trying to predict the actions of the Iranian government by using common sense is like trying pass a history test by studying biology. It simply doesn't work as the Iranian governments actions generally are unpredictable.

They're fairly predictable.

If you replace their democratically elected, Soviet-aligned government with a brutal dictator, they will eventually take their government back and then hate you for the next few decades.

[Kylistan]

Trying to predict the actions of the Iranian government by using common sense is like trying pass a history test by studying biology. It simply doesn't work as the Iranian governments actions generally are unpredictable.

There "Unpredictable"? How they have made logical choices to improve there nations standing you just saw that last night. Ahmadinejad was Oran's main wild card and was considered an embarrassment but he's out of the equation now.

Well would you like to use your ever famous common sense to explain to me why all of a sudden Iran decided to agree to this. Why now? Why not 3 years ago. Why not one month ago?

[Virana]

There "Unpredictable"? How they have made logical choices to improve there nations standing you just saw that last night. Ahmadinejad was Oran's main wild card and was considered an embarrassment but he's out of the equation now.

Well would you like to use your ever famous common sense to explain to me why all of a sudden Iran decided to agree to this. Why now? Why not 3 years ago. Why not one month ago?

Because Ahmedinejad was the president?

They agreed to this "suddenly" because their president is Rouhani now. Not that hard to follow this.

[Sedikal]

Well would you like to use your ever famous common sense to explain to me why all of a sudden Iran decided to agree to this. Why now? Why not 3 years ago. Why not one month ago?

Because Ahmedinejad was the president?

They agreed to this "suddenly" because their president is Rouhani now. Not that hard to follow this.

Shit you beat me to it.

[Kylistan]

Well would you like to use your ever famous common sense to explain to me why all of a sudden Iran decided to agree to this. Why now? Why not 3 years ago. Why not one month ago?

Because Ahmedinejad was the president?

They agreed to this "suddenly" because their president is Rouhani now. Not that hard to follow this.

Then why didn't this deal occur 1 month ago. Why didn't it occur last week before negotiations broke down? Rouhani was their president a week ago as well if I am not mistaken.

[Sedikal]

Because Ahmedinejad was the president?

They agreed to this "suddenly" because their president is Rouhani now. Not that hard to follow this.

Then why didn't this deal occur 1 month ago. Why didn't it occur last week before negotiations broke down? Rouhani was their president a week ago as well if I am not mistaken.

Because it did get what needed to be done. We have a deal now what are you complaining about what happened a week ago with talks that helped get to this agreement.

[Kylistan]

Then why didn't this deal occur 1 month ago. Why didn't it occur last week before negotiations broke down? Rouhani was their president a week ago as well if I am not mistaken.

Because it did get what needed to be done. We have a deal now what are you complaining about what happened a week ago with talks that helped get to this agreement.

In the end predicting Iran's actions isn't easy especially when we don't know anything about the balance of power between the president and supreme leader, or even what the supreme leader actually believes about nuclear arms. We know what he tells us, but nobody knows what he really thinks. This makes Iran dangerous. That's all I'm trying to say.

[Unilisia]

Iran deserves to be left alone, after all, it's America and Britain's fault they went so damn crazy in the first place. It's obvious they only want peaceful nuclear power.

[Kylistan]

they only want peaceful nuclear power.

Evidence?

[Sedikal]

Because it did get what needed to be done. We have a deal now what are you complaining about what happened a week ago with talks that helped get to this agreement.

In the end predicting Iran's actions isn't easy especially when we don't know anything about the balance of power between the president and supreme leader, or even what the supreme leader actually believes about nuclear arms. We know what he tells us, but nobody knows what he really thinks. This makes Iran dangerous. That's all I'm trying to say.

And I'm saying that Iran would have never signed this deal without approval from the supreme leader. We are seeing them wanting to head out to a more peaceful stage in its existence because it's better for them in the end. Saying Iran genuinely wants to nuke Israel is saying North Korea will nuke America, only a political point will be made from it and both nations already have ample anti-middle defense systems witch would render a nuclear attack difficult to do. Plus the international reactions would be overwhelming, the rulers of Iran don't want to loss there power and they know if they aggressively seek neckwear weapons then they will loos it.

Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean we sound just shut them down. We need to trust them and in fact trust one another in order for anything positive to happen.

[Sedikal]

they only want peaceful nuclear power.

Evidence?

Here's a 2011 article about the matter.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15637539

Also if they wanted nuclear weapons why would they agree to stop enriching uranium up to weapon grade levels?

[Pope Joan]

Iran shouldn't be forced to have the same problem America has, energy dependency. That's just stupid. Plus, the U.S. doesn't have the right to tell people not to make or use nukes to begin with and we're the only country that doesn't have the right to say that

Iran has oil. If they really wanted to they could be completely energy independent which makes the fact that they wish to use nuclear energy as a power source even more questionable.

Iran is filled with intelligent well-educated energy professionals. They realize oil has reached the tipping point, and have made the rational decision to spend short term oil profits to ensure long term non-oil energy sources.

[Greed and Death]

Anyways this clearly means Kerry should run for President.

[Geilinor]

Because Ahmedinejad was the president?

They agreed to this "suddenly" because their president is Rouhani now. Not that hard to follow this.

Then why didn't this deal occur 1 month ago. Why didn't it occur last week before negotiations broke down? Rouhani was their president a week ago as well if I am not mistaken.

Negotiation takes time. You can't get a deal when you want it.

[The Lone Alliance]

Well I guess that's a good thing, anything to avert our previously inevitable slide towards invading Iran.

Funny that most of the people condemning the deal fall back to the same tired old lies and the exact same tired old sources that are proven to be lies.

I mean the CIA and Mossad both said Iran aren't anywhere near having a nuke, who should we believe, some world leaders or the people who's job is to know these sort of things?

The only person who keeps insisting Iran is getting a nuke is Netanyahu who, as his actions are beginning to show, is mentally unstable.