Iran Agrees to Nuke Deal

[Vazdania]

Israel doesn't like it.....so I don't like it

Ladies and gentlemen, Vazdania and his stunted teenage powers of critical analysis!

So swag....much analysis...wow....very critical.......much posh.


In all reality I could care less so long as Israel gets its way.

[Kylistan]

I think that the 6 world powers gave too much ground to Iran, and I believe that this deal was made by President Obama largely to attempt to distract the media and the American people from the mess that Obamacare has been so far.

Seriously?!?

It's not ALL about Obamacare. I mean, you'd have to be crazy to believe that it was. Or a Republican. But then (as Mark Twain once said), I repeat myself...

It isn't all about Obamacare, but Obama needed to do something to relieve criticism of his healthcare policy in the United States and to try to save his presidency, so he made major concessions to Iran in order to obtain a deal.

[Bobanopula]

Nice that in America we can see how a 2nd term of Jimmy Carter would have been like.

Do elaborate.

His withdrawing of support from the Pro-western Shah lead the Iran government falling to the radical Islamist government whos goal is the destruction of Israel. Had Carter been elected to a 2nd term this drama would have played out long ago.

[Avenio]

So swag....much analysis...wow....very critical.......much posh.

If the best rebuttal you can come up with is to scrape the bottom of the internet meme barrel and try to find something that sticks, you've already lost.

In all reality I could care less so long as Israel gets its way.

Well yes, of course. That's the sort of attention-seeking nonsense we come to expect from you.

[Gauthier]

Do elaborate.

His withdrawing of support from the Pro-western Shah lead the Iran government falling to the radical Islamist government whos goal is the destruction of Israel. Had Carter been elected to a 2nd term this drama would have played out long ago.

If the United States hadn't supported the deposing of Mossadegh and replaced him with an autocratic ass-kisser the Islamists wouldn't have been the driving force they became thanks to said autocrat.

[Farnhamia]

His withdrawing of support from the Pro-western Shah lead the Iran government falling to the radical Islamist government whos goal is the destruction of Israel. Had Carter been elected to a 2nd term this drama would have played out long ago.

If the United States hadn't supported the deposing of Mossadegh and replaced him with an autocratic ass-kisser the Islamists wouldn't have been the driving force they became thanks to said autocrat.

So ... blame Eisenhower?

[Gauthier]

If the United States hadn't supported the deposing of Mossadegh and replaced him with an autocratic ass-kisser the Islamists wouldn't have been the driving force they became thanks to said autocrat.

So ... blame Eisenhower?

Hey, he was Republican.

[Farnhamia]

So ... blame Eisenhower?

Hey, he was Republican.

And I like Ike.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Ladies and gentlemen, Vazdania and his stunted teenage powers of critical analysis!

So swag....much analysis...wow....very critical.......much posh.


In all reality I could care less so long as Israel gets its way.

Couldn't care less.

[Agritum]

Hey, he was Republican.

And I like Ike.

He did do some heavily questionable choices regarding foreign policy, still.

[Kemalist]

Gorbachev 2.0. I don't see Iranian regime lasting after the current imam-president.

[Alien Space Bats]

Peaceful negotiation is always better than military action when possible.

That's a damn lie. When peace talks fail, military might is the way to go to get your deal across.

Ah, yes... military action. The cost-free way of getting things done!

Of course trying to get Israel to reduce its nuclear weapons arsenal just means you hate Jews and want to roast them all in ovens. *nod nod*

Hell, just getting us to admit to having nukes is Jew hating.
Also, why the fuck do we get off so easy for not signing the NPT?

If I had my way, you wouldn't — and I'd make you ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) as well...

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Peaceful negotiation is always better than military action when possible.

That's a damn lie. When peace talks fail, military might is the way to go to get your deal across.

That doesn't actually contradict the previous post. In fact, remove "That's a damn lie", and the phrase "Peaceful negotiation is always better than military action when possible. When peace talks fail, military might is the way to go to get your deal across." sounds like basic realpolitik.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

I'm more afraid of Hezbollah, since they could hit where I am, then Iran directly.

Sleep tight
And of course don't forget about these guys

btw, on a serious note, do you have a Mamad/know where your nearest shelter is?

lol thx for that. And nope, I'm hoping that my Israeli roommate will tell me where to go lol.

[Bobanopula]

Nice that in America we can see how a 2nd term of Jimmy Carter would have been like.

Nice to see that in America we can see people still stuck in a late 70s-early 80s mindset regarding Iran despite the entire world stage having shifted drastically since that time.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

Gorbachev 2.0. I don't see Iranian regime lasting after the current imam-president.

Neither do I, but until he dies it barely matters how moderate the president is.

[Kylistan]

Gorbachev 2.0. I don't see Iranian regime lasting after the current imam-president.

Neither do I, but until he dies it barely matters how moderate the president is.

I don't know about you guys, but I think that we may be looking at a civil war in Iran between the extremists and the moderates after Ali Khamenei dies.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Nice to see that in America we can see people still stuck in a late 70s-early 80s mindset regarding Iran despite the entire world stage having shifted drastically since that time.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Right, do you have anything besides tired cliches to support your statement?

[Tsmida Eri]

Can't wait to see how Obama screws this up. He really is setting a poor example as America's first black President.

[Yes Im Biop]

So why did they give it up? Nuclear power is the best available for the moment.

[Kylistan]

So why did they give it up? Nuclear power is the best available for the moment.

Iran didn't give up their right to nuclear power. In fact, the rest of the world recognized their right to enrich uranium.

[Yes Im Biop]

So why did they give it up? Nuclear power is the best available for the moment.

Iran didn't give up their right to nuclear power. In fact, the rest of the world recognized their right to enrich uranium.

Then what is everyone belly aching about?

[Volnotova]

I see no evidence of that.



You keep using that "wipe off the map" quote. I don't recall any Iranian official ever making such a statement. If anything, it's been Israel that's been attacking Iran recently.

This was said by Mahmoud Ahmadinejed At "The World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran. Although he is no longer President, his ideas are in line with those of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

No it wasn't.

Want to proof us? Give us a link.

[Kylistan]

Iran didn't give up their right to nuclear power. In fact, the rest of the world recognized their right to enrich uranium.

Then what is everyone belly aching about?

The fact that we have recognized Iran's right to enrich uranium.

[Kylistan]

This was said by Mahmoud Ahmadinejed At "The World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran. Although he is no longer President, his ideas are in line with those of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

No it wasn't.

Want to proof us? Give us a link.

I already did. Read the thread.