Should death row inmates be militarized instead?

[Luveria]

If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...

Not a crack whore.

Who isn't a crack whore? You didn't specify.

[Dyakovo]

Lethal Injection on death row inmates is wrong. Humans are good as a resource. So why waste one by simply killing them for their terrible crimes? The answer is this.
We get these men strapped on with IED's on the battlefield and have them to simply just die to scare off whatever enemy in whatever bloody conflict we're getting our noses in these days These inmates make good cannon fodder. You can't waste good resources like this. Capital Punishment must be like this for now on. I think using inmates as pawns will save more honorable lives of soldiers. Lethal Injection is a waste.

Ethical? Not quite. Reasonable? Yes.

Would you support this?

Sorry, but it is neither ethical nor reasonable.

[Dyakovo]

Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!

If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...

I'm over 40, and have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

[Dyakovo]

Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!

If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...

I'm over 40, and have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

[Luveria]

Would you support this?

Here's where you went wrong. "Death row inmates".... those are total psychos and sociopaths, and you want to give them military training, a gun, and send them to a foreign land where they can escape rape and pillage wherever they please, now armed with US infantry training and weapons issued courtesy of the US government.

Now if you said, "lets force all prisoners in on non-violent charges of drug possession (primarily marijuana) to serve in the military's penal battalions...then you may have been onto something.

If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...

I'm over 40, and have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

I'm 22 and also have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

[Magna Libero]

You of all people should know that it depends on where you shop.

The only time I was charging $20 for a quickie was when I was trying to drive my competitors out of my area by undercutting them. Realistically, you're unlikely to find a working girl selling her services for $20, which is why I doubt the poster's claims.

I think you are going a little bit off-topic, but this article suggests that prostitutes won't charge more than $30.

[The Nihilistic view]

Not in the way you describe, the British courts used to offer convicted criminals the choice between hanging/prison depending on the crime and joining the army. I would say it was quite successful.

Would it work now? say instead of 10 years for armed robbery offer them 10 years in the military instead? Possibly, I would not mind but the OP version of making them walking IED's/suicide bombers is silly.

That's such a great idea placing a convicted thief into the army where they have access to military weaponry they can steal and sell.

Yeah like the military give soldiers free reign to just pilfer the armory without any checks and procedures.

Crim soldier "Mate look, I need an SA80 and 500 rounds for personal use at home this weekend."

Armory sergeant "Yeah sure take whatever you need, don't worry about bringing it back we have plenty more."

[Sun Wukong]

I haven't seen an idea this bad since "two-for-one Tuesday" at the amputation clinic.

[Verdum]

"Here, I trust you enough to be trained and given a gun considering you killed your entire family and raped your neighbor."
"Alright."
*Gives gun*
"Alright, so I want you to-"
Blam, blam, blam.

No.

[Ifreann]

Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Shoot them on the spot.

And when you get convicted for a crime you didn't commit, I'm sure you'll take it like a champ.

[Kingdom of Cambria]

I think death row inmates should be put to death within 365 days of their conviction (dependent that they are not appealing...which would only be allowed once) and thus would eliminate the need for militarization. Also, all executions should be public and by choice of a) hanging b) firing squad or c) cyanide capsule.

Naturally, this is all conjecture and off the record as the government of the Kingdom of Cambria has no provision for the death penalty, nor would the realm seek such a course.

[Sun Wukong]

I think death row inmates should be put to death within 365 days of their conviction (dependent that they are not appealing...which would only be allowed once) and thus would eliminate the need for militarization. Also, all executions should be public and by choice of a) hanging b) firing squad or c) cyanide capsule.

Naturally, this is all conjecture and off the record as the government of the Kingdom of Cambria has no provision for the death penalty, nor would the realm seek such a course.

That is very nearly the worst idea I've ever heard.

[Katganistan]

Yeah, strapping bombs to prisoners and sending them to die is like, not a horrendous human rights violation or terrorism or anything like that.....

Seriously? MILITARIZED? Stop using weasel words and just say what you mean: murdering them in an umbelievable cruel and inhumane way, along with whatever other poor bastards happen to be around them.

[Luveria]

Yeah, strapping bombs to prisoners and sending them to die is like, not a horrendous human rights violation or terrorism or anything like that.....

That only works for Jihadis, meaning willing volunteers.

The alternative is the IRA carbombings which involved hostaging the family of a man and ordering the man to drive to the detonation site. So yeah, getting an unwilling person, especially violent psychopathic prisoners, to follow suicidal orders...is... easier said than done.

Seriously? MILITARIZED? Stop using weasel words and just say what you mean: murdering them in an umbelievable cruel and inhumane way, along with whatever other poor bastards happen to be around them.

But Warhammer 40k!

[Kumrann]

No. There shouldn't be anyone on death row anyway.

[The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy]

No. There shouldn't be anyone on death row anyway.

Thinkin your crazy.

[Luveria]

No. There shouldn't be anyone on death row anyway.

Thinkin your crazy.

Canada doesn't have death row. Crazy world, isn't it?

[The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy]

Thinkin your crazy.

Canada doesn't have death row. Crazy world, isn't it?

Yeah.And they say I am weird!!!

[Aurora Novus]

I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's almost certainly going to be higher for "normal" people. That's partially why serial killers fascinate the public. Most people can think of tons of reasons to kill someone; the simple joy of killing, however, isn't what most people think of.

But what I mean is, I'm not seeing the relevance here. Why ask the question?

You've never heard of Sandy Hook ? OR the National Rifle Association ? I respond to such blanket statements strongly. My point is by statistics, your safer with US. You would less safe statistical my within normal people. Why I do people have the propensity to blame us? I can't figure it out....

I'm still not seeing your point. First of all, I never made such blanket statements about mentally ill people. I discussed specific mental illnesses (particularly anti-social illnesses). Secondly, even if more normal people than mentally ill people commit murder, that doesn't at all mean you are safer with a mentally ill person, because it's the percentages of those populations that matter, not the base numbers. If more "normal" people commit murder, but a higher percentage of "ill" people commit murder, statistically, the mentally ill are more dangerous.

But really, I just don't understand where you are trying to go with this point.

[Chernoslavia]

Lethal Injection on death row inmates is wrong. Humans are good as a resource. So why waste one by simply killing them for their terrible crimes? The answer is this.
We get these men strapped on with IED's on the battlefield and have them to simply just die to scare off whatever enemy in whatever bloody conflict we're getting our noses in these days These inmates make good cannon fodder. You can't waste good resources like this. Capital Punishment must be like this for now on. I think using inmates as pawns will save more honorable lives of soldiers. Lethal Injection is a waste.

Ethical? Not quite. Reasonable? Yes.

Would you support this?

No!

[The Holy Therns]

Lethal Injection on death row inmates is wrong. Humans are good as a resource. So why waste one by simply killing them for their terrible crimes? The answer is this.
We get these men strapped on with IED's on the battlefield and have them to simply just die to scare off whatever enemy in whatever bloody conflict we're getting our noses in these days These inmates make good cannon fodder. You can't waste good resources like this. Capital Punishment must be like this for now on. I think using inmates as pawns will save more honorable lives of soldiers. Lethal Injection is a waste.

Ethical? Not quite. Reasonable? Yes.

Would you support this?

Please tell me you're joking.

[Chernoslavia]

Would you support this?

Here's where you went wrong. "Death row inmates".... those are total psychos and sociopaths, and you want to give them military training, a gun, and send them to a foreign land where they can escape rape and pillage wherever they please, now armed with US infantry training and weapons issued courtesy of the US government.

Now if you said, "lets force all prisoners in on non-violent charges of drug possession (primarily marijuana) to serve in the military's penal battalions...then you may have been onto something.

I'm over 40, and have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

I'm 22 and also have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

Why the hell would you even want to know? ....Nevermind.

About drafting in people of drug possession, I'd say "nay". Not all people in possession of marijuana or narcotics are dealers, some are users, junkies. Give a junky a gun, and your asking for trouble.

[Chernoslavia]

Lethal Injection on death row inmates is wrong. Humans are good as a resource. So why waste one by simply killing them for their terrible crimes? The answer is this.
We get these men strapped on with IED's on the battlefield and have them to simply just die to scare off whatever enemy in whatever bloody conflict we're getting our noses in these days These inmates make good cannon fodder. You can't waste good resources like this. Capital Punishment must be like this for now on. I think using inmates as pawns will save more honorable lives of soldiers. Lethal Injection is a waste.

Ethical? Not quite. Reasonable? Yes.

Would you support this?

Please tell me you're joking.

Unfortunately he isn't.

[Luveria]

Here's where you went wrong. "Death row inmates".... those are total psychos and sociopaths, and you want to give them military training, a gun, and send them to a foreign land where they can escape rape and pillage wherever they please, now armed with US infantry training and weapons issued courtesy of the US government.

Now if you said, "lets force all prisoners in on non-violent charges of drug possession (primarily marijuana) to serve in the military's penal battalions...then you may have been onto something.



I'm 22 and also have no idea how much prostitutes charge.

Why the hell would you even want to know? ....Nevermind.

About drafting in people of drug possession, I'd say "nay". Not all people in possession of marijuana or narcotics are dealers, some are users, junkies. Give a junky a gun, and your asking for trouble.

I don't want any prisoners drafted.

It's just a lot less stupid drafting non-violent offenders than to "militarize" hardened psychopaths.

[Chernoslavia]

Why the hell would you even want to know? ....Nevermind.

About drafting in people of drug possession, I'd say "nay". Not all people in possession of marijuana or narcotics are dealers, some are users, junkies. Give a junky a gun, and your asking for trouble.

I don't want any prisoners drafted.

It's just a lot less stupid drafting non-violent offenders than to "militarize" hardened psychopaths.

It's less stupid, but there are some druggies that are just so desperate they might mug civilians for their next hit if issued a weapon.

But yeah, overall it seems less dangerous than drafting former death row inmates.