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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:50 am

Soul Edge wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The alternative to paying taxes to keep dangerous criminals in prison is to set them free. Do you want that?
Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?

Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:51 am

Soul Edge wrote:Is there a thread where I can debate with people who go on about how serial killers shouldn't be executed? I'm seeing a lot of that here.

I agree that they shouldn't be given a rifle and blown up in The Middle East, but I sure as hell don't want pay taxes for a person who killed 20 people and beg for mercy by pleading insanity.


I agree. Cut the head off the snake and the body dies. Of course what do I know ? According to some people my opinion doesn't matter cuz I'm an AN. I'll have to bow to my superiors.

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Postby Soul Edge » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Soul Edge wrote:Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?

Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Well in that case, money well spent.
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
Soul Edge wrote:Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?

Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Nothing is free.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:57 am

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Magna Libero wrote:Yeah, and considering that people very often become mentally ill after they have experienced a war and this in turn can lead to what you said (shootings, harming others etc).


I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.


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Postby The IASM » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
Soul Edge wrote:Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?

Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Shoot them on the spot.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:02 am

Soul Edge wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The alternative to paying taxes to keep dangerous criminals in prison is to set them free. Do you want that?
Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?

A worrying proportion of people sent to death row and subsequently executed are later exonerated. This is with the appeals process.
Many more still are needlessly sent to death row and are pardoned before execution.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:03 am

The IASM wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Shoot them on the spot.

You mean like the Koreans? Where bodies are no longer identifiable because they've had so much ammunition fired into them? Where people are executed in front of audiences?
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Postby Immoren » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:03 am

Soul Edge wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The alternative to paying taxes to keep dangerous criminals in prison is to set them free. Do you want that?
Executed and be done with it, that's what I'm implying.

Where did you get that?


Death should be release. Not punishment.
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:05 am

Aurora Novus wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.


...I don't follow. What do you mean?


Look up the I do at the F.B.I website. T ell m me if more mentally ill people killed people, or"normal" people.

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Postby Blasveck » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:09 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Soul Edge wrote:Is there a thread where I can debate with people who go on about how serial killers shouldn't be executed? I'm seeing a lot of that here.

I agree that they shouldn't be given a rifle and blown up in The Middle East, but I sure as hell don't want pay taxes for a person who killed 20 people and beg for mercy by pleading insanity.


I agree. Cut the head off the snake and the body dies. Of course what do I know ? According to some people my opinion doesn't matter cuz I'm an AN. I'll have to bow to my superiors.

Your opinion is certainly worth a lot less when you act as if you can be Big Old Tough ManTM when you've probably never been in a war, and when you act as if you're 14.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:10 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote: Cut the head off the snake and the body dies.


What if it's Hydra?
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:16 am

Blasveck wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
I agree. Cut the head off the snake and the body dies. Of course what do I know ? According to some people my opinion doesn't matter cuz I'm an AN. I'll have to bow to my superiors.

Your opinion is certainly worth a lot less when you act as if you can be Big Old Tough ManTM when you've probably never been in a war, and when you act as if you're 14.

FIrst, you ( or other guys) brought up about me being an AN. I didn't.

Second, I'd do it. Yes, war is ugly. Certainty it should not be entered swiftly. But if engaged, you must do whatever is neccesary to win. That means death and destruction that breaks the morale of the enemy. That means bombings, asasinations and other nasty, cruel and inhuman measures. I would do it because it's either HIM or ME.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:17 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Your opinion is certainly worth a lot less when you act as if you can be Big Old Tough ManTM when you've probably never been in a war, and when you act as if you're 14.

FIrst, you ( or other guys) brought up about me being an AN. I didn't.

Second, I'd do it. Yes, war is ugly. Certainty it should not be entered swiftly. But if engaged, you must do whatever is neccesary to win. That means death and destruction that breaks the morale of the enemy. That means bombings, asasinations and other nasty, cruel and inhuman measures. I would do it because it's either HIM or ME.

It'd be useful to do those things if they actually brought about the close of the war. Or significantly impacted the ability of the enemy to fight.

But we know that they don't, so what the fuck is the point? Direct the resources you would essentially waste into fulfilling military and strategic objectives and actually fight and win.
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:42 am

Immoren wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote: Cut the head off the snake and the body dies.


What if it's Hydra?


Hydra ? Oh, the snake thing. Well, you know Hydra DOES exist in imagination land. Don't tell anyone else or they may invade. Ssshhhhhh..it's our secret, o.k ?

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:43 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Executing people costs money. And you'll need a prison to keep them in while they wait to be executed.

Nothing is free.


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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:45 am

Luveria wrote:
Terra Sector Union wrote:Nothing is free.


Friendship is.


Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:47 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Friendship is.


Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!


If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20... /sarcasm
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:48 am

Luveria wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!


If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...


You of all people should know that it depends on where you shop.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:51 am

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Luveria wrote:
If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...


You of all people should know that it depends on where you shop.


The only time I was charging $20 for a quickie was when I was trying to drive my competitors out of my area by undercutting them. Realistically, you're unlikely to find a working girl selling her services for $20, which is why I doubt the poster's claims. /sarcasm
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Postby Aurora Novus » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:52 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Aurora Novus wrote:
...I don't follow. What do you mean?


Look up the I do at the F.B.I website. T ell m me if more mentally ill people killed people, or"normal" people.


I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's almost certainly going to be higher for "normal" people. That's partially why serial killers fascinate the public. Most people can think of tons of reasons to kill someone; the simple joy of killing, however, isn't what most people think of.

But what I mean is, I'm not seeing the relevance here. Why ask the question?

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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:01 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Yeah ? A street who're charged me $20. So much for free!


If you really were 40... you would know us prostitutes charge more than $20...


Not a crack whore.
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:16 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Look up the I do at the F.B.I website. T ell m me if more mentally ill people killed people, or"normal" people.


I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's almost certainly going to be higher for "normal" people. That's partially why serial killers fascinate the public. Most people can think of tons of reasons to kill someone; the simple joy of killing, however, isn't what most people think of.

But what I mean is, I'm not seeing the relevance here. Why ask the question?


You've never heard of Sandy Hook ? OR the National Rifle Association ? I respond to such blanket statements strongly. My point is by statistics, your safer with US. You would less safe statistical my within normal people. Why I do people have the propensity to blame us? I can't figure it out....

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Postby Immoren » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:19 pm

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Immoren wrote:
What if it's Hydra?


Hydra ? Oh, the snake thing. Well, you know Hydra DOES exist in imagination land. Don't tell anyone else or they may invade. Ssshhhhhh..it's our secret, o.k ?


That's what the UNIT and MIB want you think.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:23 pm

Immoren wrote:
The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Hydra ? Oh, the snake thing. Well, you know Hydra DOES exist in imagination land. Don't tell anyone else or they may invade. Ssshhhhhh..it's our secret, o.k ?


That's what the UNIT and MIB want you

Ssshhhh.. don't give awAy Fantasy Land. They'll invade.

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