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Postby Wickedly evil people » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:46 am

I say electrocute them.


Why let them indulge their psychopathic urges in battle.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:46 am

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Indira wrote:What could POSSIBLY go wrong with letting murderers and other psychopaths loose with IEDs attatched? Give it about ten seconds worth of thought and you'll soon realise why this counts as a really dumb idea.


Ha! The U.S had the Mafia work with them in W.W II. Morals only matter to the living. I'd do it, along with poisoning their water supply and carpet bombing.

So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:48 am

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It's sad, how many people took that seriously.


This is NSG. It's a thread with an OP titled "Should death row inmates be militarized instead?"

My thoughts exactly. Poe's law is very much in effect.


Wickedly evil people wrote:I say electrocute them.


Why let them indulge their psychopathic urges in battle.

Why should we let you indulge your urge to electrocute people?

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Postby Magna Libero » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:50 am

Aurora Novus wrote:Most death row inmates are such due to very serious crimes and very frequently possess psychological or personality disorders. Do you really want an anti-social sociopath, who are inclined towards manipulation and abuse at best, and serial rape and murder at worst, to be given combat training, armed with military grade weaponry, and placed in a position of immence authority and power over others, including and not limited to life and death?

There's a reason military members must undergo psych evals. No thank you.

EDIT: The above is based purely on the title. In your OP, are you suggesting we strap bombs to convicts and send them out to die? Again, I must point out, to a sociopath, what in gods name would stop them from just turning around and blowing themselves up on their "allies"? Either way you slice it, this is a terrible idea.

Yeah, and considering that people very often become mentally ill after they have experienced a war and this in turn can lead to what you said (shootings, harming others etc).
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:54 am

Magna Libero wrote:
Aurora Novus wrote:Most death row inmates are such due to very serious crimes and very frequently possess psychological or personality disorders. Do you really want an anti-social sociopath, who are inclined towards manipulation and abuse at best, and serial rape and murder at worst, to be given combat training, armed with military grade weaponry, and placed in a position of immence authority and power over others, including and not limited to life and death?

There's a reason military members must undergo psych evals. No thank you.

EDIT: The above is based purely on the title. In your OP, are you suggesting we strap bombs to convicts and send them out to die? Again, I must point out, to a sociopath, what in gods name would stop them from just turning around and blowing themselves up on their "allies"? Either way you slice it, this is a terrible idea.

Yeah, and considering that people very often become mentally ill after they have experienced a war and this in turn can lead to what you said (shootings, harming others etc).


I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.

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Postby Magna Libero » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Wickedly evil people wrote:I say electrocute them.


Why let them indulge their psychopathic urges in battle.

Why should we let you indulge your urge to electrocute people?

If you can't point out why electrocuting people is a bad thing then why do you want to restrict other people from thinking like that? Nothing in itself is a valid reason, without an adequate explanation.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:55 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Magna Libero wrote:Yeah, and considering that people very often become mentally ill after they have experienced a war and this in turn can lead to what you said (shootings, harming others etc).


I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.

Soldiers do commit more crimes than the general population, according to a recent British study.
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Postby Free Wexford » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:01 am

I say we let the military run "tests" on them....
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:03 am

Free Wexford wrote:I say we let the military run "tests" on them....

At least be honest and say you just want to torture them.


Magna Libero wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Why should we let you indulge your urge to electrocute people?

If you can't point out why electrocuting people is a bad thing then why do you want to restrict other people from thinking like that? Nothing in itself is a valid reason, without an adequate explanation.

I didn't say anything about what people should be allowed to think.

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Postby Magna Libero » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:15 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Magna Libero wrote:Yeah, and considering that people very often become mentally ill after they have experienced a war and this in turn can lead to what you said (shootings, harming others etc).


I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.

That shooting thingie in Washington Navy Yard-- surely mental illness is a factor?

This is just one case, but do you seriously think that it doesn't matter if a person is mentally and kills someone due to that?

Also, the murdering of non-American civilians by American soldiers?

Something about the statistics
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Postby European Prussia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:20 am

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:39 am

Free Wexford wrote:I say we let the military run "tests" on them....


It looks like we have ourselves a sadist here.

European Prussia wrote:Some men just want to watch the whole world to burn


Who?

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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:41 am

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Ha! The U.S had the Mafia work with them in W.W II. Morals only matter to the living. I'd do it, along with poisoning their water supply and carpet bombing.

So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:42 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:I say electrocute them.


Why let them indulge their psychopathic urges in battle.


Do you get off on watching people get electrocuted? Surely lethal injection would be enough, but it seems you crave watching prisoners die a painful death for no other reason to please some desires you have.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:42 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.

Yes, I'm sure you're a super hardcore nihilist or sociopath or whatever cool thing kids pretend they are these days.

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:43 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.


That explains it.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:45 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.

Those two things are notoriously ineffective at completing any sort of objective or "grinding into dust".
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:45 am

Magna Libero wrote:
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I am curious. How many mentally ill people vs how many "normal" have committed murder in 2013 ? I think that's prejudice.

That shooting thingie in Washington Navy Yard-- surely mental illness is a factor?

This is just one case, but do you seriously think that it doesn't matter if a person is mentally and kills someone due to that?

Also, the murdering of non-American civilians by American soldiers?

Something about the statistics


How many mentally ill killers vs. Non mentally ill killers. You can only justify that statement by official F.B.I statistics. Show the statistics, I don't want anecdotes.

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Postby Blasveck » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:46 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.


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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:47 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.


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Postby Page » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:47 am

Only if we invent a chemical to turn their blood into a boiling acid that will rain down on the enemy. Cause then that would be really cool.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:48 am

Not in the way you describe, the British courts used to offer convicted criminals the choice between hanging/prison depending on the crime and joining the army. I would say it was quite successful.

Would it work now? say instead of 10 years for armed robbery offer them 10 years in the military instead? Possibly, I would not mind but the OP version of making them walking IED's/suicide bombers is silly.
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Postby The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:53 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
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Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.

Those two things are notoriously ineffective at completing any sort of objective or "grinding into dust".


Yes, it was VERY ineffective in WW II . I suppose that's why the Allies won the war?

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Postby Luveria » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:55 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Not in the way you describe, the British courts used to offer convicted criminals the choice between hanging/prison depending on the crime and joining the army. I would say it was quite successful.

Would it work now? say instead of 10 years for armed robbery offer them 10 years in the military instead? Possibly, I would not mind but the OP version of making them walking IED's/suicide bombers is silly.


That's such a great idea placing a convicted thief into the army where they have access to military weaponry they can steal and sell.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:06 am

The Wycihowsiist Ascendancy wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you'd go and do two notoriously ineffective things and then sort of pray that they work?

Good, the government knows not to let you into the DoD then.


Oh, I think you misunderstand me. I'm a nice guy. But if I go to war, I will do anything and everything to grind you dust. I have very few limits.


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