School orders families to sign "biblical morality pledge".

[Benuty]

In what world is that unfortunate?

This one. The one we live in. But don't fret, Religion is on the decline.

Not exactly...we are on decline from the general populace is the more appropriate answer.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Nah. I don't see it.

You don't? Then glance up from your theoretical, hypothetical, perfect world and look around. I see militant atheists and oppressive secular humanists. Everywhere. Seriously, this is how all religions start off. Read up and you'll see it's true. Atheism is following the same pattern that most major religions have.

Still don't see it.

[Neo Rome Republic]

This one. The one we live in. But don't fret, Religion is on the decline.

Not exactly...we are on decline from the general populace is the more appropriate answer.

Still, coolio!!!

[Timothia]

You don't? Then glance up from your theoretical, hypothetical, perfect world and look around. I see militant atheists and oppressive secular humanists. Everywhere. Seriously, this is how all religions start off. Read up and you'll see it's true. Atheism is following the same pattern that most major religions have.

Still don't see it.

That's fine. Early Christians didn't see Christianity becoming the state religion of Rome, but what they saw didn't change anything. What you see doesn't change the way things are.

[Christian Democrats]

That would be anti-fundamentalist-Christian, which is not religious neutrality.

Let the students/parents take their vouchers where they want, provided that the school meets the minimum educational requirements.

Bullshit. But coming from you, that shouldn't be a surprise.

I guess tolerance applies only to those with whom you agree.

[New Frenco Empire]

Which is why it shouldn't be receiving a penny in subsidy.

That would be anti-fundamentalist-Christian, which is not religious neutrality.

Let the students/parents take their vouchers where they want, provided that the school meets the minimum educational requirements.

Fuck that. I'd be pretty upset to learn that my money went to pay for a kid to listen to someone labeling evolution as "secular propaganda" or LGBTs as "morally wrong."

[Benuty]

Not exactly...we are on decline from the general populace is the more appropriate answer.

Still, coolio!!!

Its more or so planned exclusion from the ills of politics and other societal abodes....but this isn't the thread for it. I am surprised the government hasn't exactly done anything on the issue (if they care to do so).

[Neo Rome Republic]

Still don't see it.

That's fine. Early Christians didn't see Christianity becoming the state religion of Rome, but what they saw didn't change anything. What you see doesn't change the way things are.

Well what you see, ISN'T the way things are. But even I assume what you say is true, I'd rather live in a world full of Militant Atheists, than with Militant Religious.

[New Frenco Empire]

Bullshit. But coming from you, that shouldn't be a surprise.

I guess tolerance applies only to those with whom you agree.

There's a difference between refusing to follow the views of a religion (which is a choice) and not discriminating against sexual minorities. (Which is not a choice)

[Neo Rome Republic]

Bullshit. But coming from you, that shouldn't be a surprise.

I guess tolerance applies only to those with whom you agree.

It applies to those who don't breathe, live, and say bullshit.

[Timothia]

That's fine. Early Christians didn't see Christianity becoming the state religion of Rome, but what they saw didn't change anything. What you see doesn't change the way things are.

Well what you see, ISN'T the way things are. But even I assume what you say is true, I'd rather live in a world full of Militant Atheists, than with Militant Religious.

Debatable. We should start a new thread for this because I have a feeling that this one is being jacked.

[Christian Democrats]

That would be anti-fundamentalist-Christian, which is not religious neutrality.

Let the students/parents take their vouchers where they want, provided that the school meets the minimum educational requirements.

Fuck that. I'd be pretty upset to learn that my money went to pay for a kid to listen to someone labeling evolution as "secular propaganda" or LGBTs as "morally wrong."

It's their money, which is kind of the point.

Parents, here is the money that would have been spent on your children in the public school system. Use it to educate them as you see fit.

[Benuty]

That's fine. Early Christians didn't see Christianity becoming the state religion of Rome, but what they saw didn't change anything. What you see doesn't change the way things are.

Well what you see, ISN'T the way things are. But even I assume what you say is true, I'd rather live in a world full of Militant Atheists, than with Militant Religious.

So you want to live in Rapture (oh the irony of that phrase)?

[New Frenco Empire]

Well what you see, ISN'T the way things are. But even I assume what you say is true, I'd rather live in a world full of Militant Atheists, than with Militant Religious.

So you want to live in Rapture (oh the irony of that phrase)?

Rapture is superior to Columbia.

[Christian Democrats]

I guess tolerance applies only to those with whom you agree.

There's a difference between refusing to follow the views of a religion (which is a choice) and not discriminating against sexual minorities. (Which is not a choice)

I don't know all that much about fundamentalist Christianity; but, as far as I know, being attracted to the same sex is not considered wrong.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Well what you see, ISN'T the way things are. But even I assume what you say is true, I'd rather live in a world full of Militant Atheists, than with Militant Religious.

So you want to live in Rapture (oh the irony of that phrase)?

Good one.

[Solaray]

So you want to live in Rapture (oh the irony of that phrase)?

Rapture is superior to Columbia.

But Columbia didn't collapse on itself and turn into a survival-horror hellhole. It did collapse but only due to the arrival of the Bookster.

[4years]

They are? That's unfortunate.

In what world is that unfortunate?

A world where many religions attack LGBT as morally wrong. A friend of mine is both gay and strongly Christian: he almost killed himself in high school before he could accept that he was gay and was plunged into a second major bout of depression when his parents adopted the "have you tried not being gay?" and "homosexuality is a sin" approach. It is very unfortunate to be both LGBT and deeply religious as it can lead to all kinds of physiological strain being placed on said LGBT people.

[New Frenco Empire]

Rapture is superior to Columbia.

But Columbia didn't collapse on itself and turn into a survival-horror hellhole. It did collapse but only due to the arrival of the Bookster.

And both were right-wing shitholes. Still, pre-civil war Rapture was pretty great. (Well, as long as I was as rich as most of the people living there)

Besides, Rapture's fall had more to do with it's lassiez-faire capitalism instead of it's atheism.

I'm sure this is threadjacking, but whatever...

[Benuty]

So you want to live in Rapture (oh the irony of that phrase)?

Rapture is superior to Columbia.

Not really they both sucked in every essence of their existence (even with superior technology) due to the extremist isolation and worship of competition, racism, societal purity, cultic indoctrination, ultra-fundamentalism, super-consumerism, perfectionism, and all out societal narcissism.

[New Frenco Empire]

There's a difference between refusing to follow the views of a religion (which is a choice) and not discriminating against sexual minorities. (Which is not a choice)

I don't know all that much about fundamentalist Christianity; but, as far as I know, being attracted to the same sex is not considered wrong.

It's not wrong, and acting on those attractions isn't wrong, either. In a truly secular country they shouldn't be, anyway.

[Olivaero]

Fuck that. I'd be pretty upset to learn that my money went to pay for a kid to listen to someone labeling evolution as "secular propaganda" or LGBTs as "morally wrong."

It's their money, which is kind of the point.

Parents, here is the money that would have been spent on your children in the public school system. Use it to educate them as you see fit.

it maybe in fact their money but their children aren't their lives to build how they want.

[4years]

1. Why all the hate? 2. If you don't like the school's views, don't attend.

1. Because discrimination isn't okay.
2. Brown vs. the Board, comrade, Brown vs. the Board.

[Solaray]

But Columbia didn't collapse on itself and turn into a survival-horror hellhole. It did collapse but only due to the arrival of the Bookster.

And both were right-wing shitholes. Still, pre-civil war Rapture was pretty great. (Well, as long as I was as rich as most of the people living there)

Besides, Rapture's fall had more to do with it's lassiez-faire capitalism instead of it's atheism.

I'm sure this is threadjacking, but whatever...

Both were really testaments to the unavoidable failure of ideologies taken too far. Columbia just lasted longer.

[New Frenco Empire]

Rapture is superior to Columbia.

Not really they both sucked in every essence of their existence (even with superior technology) due to the extremist isolation and worship of competition, racism, societal purity, cultic indoctrination, ultra-fundamentalism, super-consumerism, perfectionism, and all out societal narcissism.

Like I said, both are great examples of extreme right-wing values gone wrong. Still, assuming I was rich, pre-civil war Rapture would be pretty great to live in.