School orders families to sign "biblical morality pledge".

[Zottistan]

No I am not, since you are free to hold any religious belief you so choose. I am expanding your freedom by preventing you (the student) from being indoctrinated into a particular religion.

But it was my choice to attend such a school. You are limiting me by forcing me to attend a secular school. I want to attend a religious school.

So? If you want to be religious, be religious. If you want to be educated in religious matters, go to a church, mosque, synagogue, etc. Matters of faith like religion should not be taught in the same setting as matters of fact, and no child should be forced to hold to a particular faith to have an education.

We're also limiting people by telling them they can't deal street drugs, ignore their taxes, or drive drunk. But we do anyway, because those things have a negative impact on society. Just like religious schools.

[Vazdania]

Don't tell me how to raise my children.

I shall. For the same reason I will tell you not to assault your children. Being your children does not take away their rights.

There is a distinct difference between assault and religious freedom.

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[Zottistan]

True. And? I think secular people don't care if your freedom to attend a religious school is impaired.

I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion. If there were a atheist school dedicated to trying to disprove God, the majority of them have no problem what so ever with funding it.

I am a militant atheist who hates religion. If there was an atheist school dedicated to disprove the existence of a god, I would be scorning it as an unnecessary waste of money and indoctrination.

[Jormengand]

There is a distinct difference between assault and religious freedom.

Duh. Religious freedom is what I'm in favour of, assault is what I'm against. Forcing your children to be Christians is not "Religious freedom." It is antithetical to it.

[Vazdania]

But it was my choice to attend such a school. You are limiting me by forcing me to attend a secular school. I want to attend a religious school.

So? If you want to be religious, be religious. If you want to be educated in religious matters, go to a church, mosque, synagogue, etc. Matters of faith like religion should not be taught in the same setting as matters of fact, and no child should be forced to hold to a particular faith to have an education.

We're also limiting people by telling them they can't deal street drugs, ignore their taxes, or drive drunk. But we do anyway, because those things have a negative impact on society. Just like religious schools.

I would like God infused into every subject. I don't want secular morality forced upon me when I am educated.

Equating religion to a bad thing is a cognitive bias.

[Vazdania]

There is a distinct difference between assault and religious freedom.

Duh. Religious freedom is what I'm in favour of, assault is what I'm against. Forcing your children to be Christians is not "Religious freedom." It is antithetical to it.

[Vettrera]

True. And? I think secular people don't care if your freedom to attend a religious school is impaired.

I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion. If there were a atheist school dedicated to trying to disprove God, the majority of them have no problem what so ever with funding it.

I'm a Christian (granted, an unorganized one with a lot of doubts), and I find it stupid that this school is receiving private funds.

[Jormengand]

Duh. Religious freedom is what I'm in favour of, assault is what I'm against. Forcing your children to be Christians is not "Religious freedom." It is antithetical to it.

I can do it too.

[Vazdania]

I can do it too.

I don't understand what point you were trying to make.

[Vazdania]

I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion. If there were a atheist school dedicated to trying to disprove God, the majority of them have no problem what so ever with funding it.

I'm a Christian (granted, an unorganized one with a lot of doubts), and I find it stupid that this school is receiving private funds.

So?

[Jormengand]

I can do it too.

I don't understand what point you were trying to make.

My point was that you're actually preventing religious freedom when you claim to be in favour of it.

I'm a Christian (granted, an unorganized one with a lot of doubts), and I find it stupid that this school is receiving private funds.

So?

So what you just said is wrong.

[Vettrera]

I'm a Christian (granted, an unorganized one with a lot of doubts), and I find it stupid that this school is receiving private funds.

So?

Vazdania Wrote: "I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion"
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[Zottistan]

So? If you want to be religious, be religious. If you want to be educated in religious matters, go to a church, mosque, synagogue, etc. Matters of faith like religion should not be taught in the same setting as matters of fact, and no child should be forced to hold to a particular faith to have an education.

We're also limiting people by telling them they can't deal street drugs, ignore their taxes, or drive drunk. But we do anyway, because those things have a negative impact on society. Just like religious schools.

I would like God infused into every subject. I don't want secular morality forced upon me when I am educated.

Equating religion to a bad thing is a cognitive bias.

There's no such thing as "secular morality". There are several moral systems that are secular, none of which are forced on you in a secular school that won't be forced on you just by living in society.

I didn't equate religion to bad things. I equated teaching faith as fact to bad things.

[Zottistan]

Freedom is relative, not absolute. You should not be free to indoctrinate children into an unfalsifiable belief system.

Stop forcing your morality upon me. Keep your morality to yourself.

That's not how morality works.

[Dyakovo]

Exclusionary admission at a publicly funded school does.

False. As its a private school, it has a wide variety of criteria it can use for admittance, like GPA.

"Publicly funded".

[Dyakovo]

Yea.........That's pretty much why I'd like to stay out of those places.....

Well, in that case, your reasons are valid.

It's more that he thinks "secular" means "anti-religion".

[Dyakovo]

Also, sometimes it's hot girls kissing in the halls.

And? I'd rather not have to look at that filth.

Okay, there might be hot guys kissing in the halls.

[Neo Rome Republic]

True. And? I think secular people don't care if your freedom to attend a religious school is impaired.

I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion. If there were a atheist school dedicated to trying to disprove God, the majority of them have no problem what so ever with funding it.

If it was publicly funded, I would. NO school promoting a Religious view should get ANY public funds, that includes Religious or Atheistic. I don't play around with DOUBLE STANDARD bull-shit.
If it was ONLY privately funded on the other hand, HELL YA!!!

[Dyakovo]

So? If you want to be religious, be religious. If you want to be educated in religious matters, go to a church, mosque, synagogue, etc. Matters of faith like religion should not be taught in the same setting as matters of fact, and no child should be forced to hold to a particular faith to have an education.

We're also limiting people by telling them they can't deal street drugs, ignore their taxes, or drive drunk. But we do anyway, because those things have a negative impact on society. Just like religious schools.

I would like God infused into every subject. .

1+1=God
*nods*

[Destiny Island]

I would like God infused into every subject. .

1+1=God
*nods*

Don't you know it's 2+2=Fish?

[Dyakovo]

True. And? I think secular people don't care if your freedom to attend a religious school is impaired.

I think the majority of those who don't like this are militant atheists who just hate religion. If there were a atheist school dedicated to trying to disprove God, the majority of them have no problem what so ever with funding it.

You would, unsurprisingly, be wrong.

[Neo Rome Republic]

1+1=God
*nods*

Don't you know it's 2+2=Fish?

I always thought it was 7+7=Jesus.

[Dyakovo]

Don't you know it's 2+2=Fish?

I always thought it was 7+7=Jesus.

(9*7)+6=Heaven

[Zottistan]

I always thought it was 7+7=Jesus.

(9*7)+6=Heaven

Ha. Haha. You're a clever man.

[Neo Rome Republic]

I always thought it was 7+7=Jesus.

(9*7)+6=Heaven