School orders families to sign "biblical morality pledge".

[Vazdania]

I'm not sure entirely for that school, but I mean my school met all Idaho secular school standards. Like benchmarks for students (things like third graders should be able to write in cursive; first graders should know how to count to 100...things like that) I'm quite certain they'd have something similar.

You said they follow many secular standards. Please name five official standards schools must and do meet.

I think you've taken my words the wrong way....

[The Shia Califate]

Yes? That does not violate the Lemon test.
Yes, because its a RELIGIOUS school.
I suppose?
I suppose. Its a private school on private property.

They follow many secular standards....Not all of them.

What secular standards do they meet?

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

[Saint Kitten]

WRONG! close, but still wrong.

Wait, I'm wrong? How? The government should not be able to fund these guys. If they want to be biased and discriminatory per their personal convictions, that is fine. They get to do it on their own tab. No government funds. How is that wrong?

You are correct

Private schools, also known as independent schools or nonstate schools, are not administered by local, state or national governments; thus, they retain the right to select their students and are funded in whole or in part by charging their students tuition, rather than relying on mandatory taxation through public (government) funding; at some private schools students may be able to get a scholarship, which makes the cost cheaper, depending on a talent the student may have e.g. sport scholarship, art scholarship, academic scholarship etc. Private schools are typically more expensive than their public counterparts.

source

[Vazdania]

I'm not sure entirely for that school, but I mean my school met all Idaho secular school standards. Like benchmarks for students (things like third graders should be able to write in cursive; first graders should know how to count to 100...things like that) I'm quite certain they'd have something similar.

...so you think as long as they follow Performance Standards, they deserve money?

Not necessarily.

[Pandeeria]

What secular standards do they meet?

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Academic quality =/= meeting secular standards.

[Vazdania]

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Academic quality =/= meeting secular standards.

When I say secular standards....I mean performance standards, sorry for the confusion.

[Vettrera]

What secular standards do they meet?

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Consider that is not always the case. As there are varying degrees of Private School.
I went to a "open curriculum" private school in the 6th grade. I felt much more challenged at the local public.

[The Shia Califate]

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Academic quality =/= meeting secular standards.

There is no "secular standard", it's a private religious school.

[Marquette of Pacific]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

[Timothia]

So they aren't allowed to act on their beliefs? Is that what you are telling me?

Also known as meeting unbiased educational standards? Yes.

Unbiased? The standards are hardly "unbiased"! They are highly humanist, anti-religious standards. If they feel like it is wrong to be homosexual, that is their choice. If you don't like it, there are public schools that will take you. Religious schools are allowed to discriminate on religious matters. For example, they are allowed to turn down Muslims. That's legitimate discrimination. There can be all-boy or all-girl schools. Those are discriminatory! But they are legitimate as long as they aren't government funded.

[The Shia Califate]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

Exactly the point.

[Vazdania]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

The fuss is it receives government funding for classes like math and english and physical education.

[Blasveck]

What secular standards do they meet?

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Hah. Nope.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 63,00.html

Still, I was intrigued to read of a well-designed study released today by the Center on Education Policy that challenges decades of research on the advantages of private schools. "Contrary to popular belief, we can find no evidence that private schools actually increase student performance," said Jack Jennings, the center's president and a former staffer in the Democratic-controlled House, in a press release. "Instead, it appears that private schools simply have higher percentages of students who would perform well in any environment based on their previous performance and background."

Mind you, it's from 2007.
I'll try to find a more recent study.

[Vettrera]

Academic quality =/= meeting secular standards.

When I say secular standards....I mean performance standards, sorry for the confusion.

I knew y'all were getting them mixed up.
Problem is, there's a difference between a school ignoring discriminatory policies (sex, gender, race, orientation, origin, disability)
And one that simply doesn't follow the Common Core standards.

[Pandeeria]

Academic quality =/= meeting secular standards.

When I say secular standards....I mean performance standards, sorry for the confusion.

So they don't meet secular standards even though they're suppose to be a educational facility? Aren't we suppose to be living in the good 'ol secular US of A?

[Timothia]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

Exactly. Nail on the head, my friend.

[Vettrera]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

Exactly the point.

The fact that they receive taxpayer money is the issue...

[Vazdania]

When I say secular standards....I mean performance standards, sorry for the confusion.

So they don't meet secular standards even though they're suppose to be a educational facility? Aren't we suppose to be living in the good 'ol secular US of A?

Private schools are an independent entity and reside on Private Property. They can teach a wide variety of things that cannot be taught in public school. Also Educational standards are not universal.

[The Shia Califate]

Consider that private schools far exceed the academic quality of public schools.

Hah. Nope.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 63,00.html

Still, I was intrigued to read of a well-designed study released today by the Center on Education Policy that challenges decades of research on the advantages of private schools. "Contrary to popular belief, we can find no evidence that private schools actually increase student performance," said Jack Jennings, the center's president and a former staffer in the Democratic-controlled House, in a press release. "Instead, it appears that private schools simply have higher percentages of students who would perform well in any environment based on their previous performance and background."

Mind you, it's from 2007.
I'll try to find a more recent study.

That source only applies to the SAT. I'm saying if a private school student with a 4.0 and a public school student with a 4.0 switched places, the chance is far far far higher that the private school student would succeed.

[Pandeeria]

Also known as meeting unbiased educational standards? Yes.

Unbiased? The standards are hardly "unbiased"! They are highly humanist, anti-religious standards. If they feel like it is wrong to be homosexual, that is their choice. If you don't like it, there are public schools that will take you. Religious schools are allowed to discriminate on religious matters. For example, they are allowed to turn down Muslims. That's legitimate discrimination. There can be all-boy or all-girl schools. Those are discriminatory! But they are legitimate as long as they aren't government funded.

Silly, they're not anti-religious. They're secular, which our country is suppose to be.

Are we still in the age where discriminating people is just fine and dandy?

[Saint Kitten]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

I thought Christians where accepting Homosexuality now

[Vettrera]

It's a private school and it's a Christian school. God forbid that Christian schools don't condone homosexuality, because our God doesn't condone it either! I don't see what all the fuss is about, honestly.

Exactly. Nail on the head, my friend.

Actually....you all are missing the point.

[Timothia]

When I say secular standards....I mean performance standards, sorry for the confusion.

So they don't meet secular standards even though they're suppose to be a educational facility? Aren't we suppose to be living in the good 'ol secular US of A?

Wait, I want don't want to have to be secular! Isn't you forcing America to be secular as bad as me forcing America to be Christian?

[Blasveck]

Also known as meeting unbiased educational standards? Yes.

Unbiased? The standards are hardly "unbiased"! They are highly humanist, anti-religious standards. If they feel like it is wrong to be homosexual, that is their choice. If you don't like it, there are public schools that will take you. Religious schools are allowed to discriminate on religious matters. For example, they are allowed to turn down Muslims. That's legitimate discrimination. There can be all-boy or all-girl schools. Those are discriminatory! But they are legitimate as long as they aren't government funded.

That's not the issue though.

The issue that most people, or at least some, have, is that taxpayer money is going to this school.

I could give less of a fuck about their views.
It's that taxpayer money is going to fund it.

[Saint Kitten]

Unbiased? The standards are hardly "unbiased"! They are highly humanist, anti-religious standards. If they feel like it is wrong to be homosexual, that is their choice. If you don't like it, there are public schools that will take you. Religious schools are allowed to discriminate on religious matters. For example, they are allowed to turn down Muslims. That's legitimate discrimination. There can be all-boy or all-girl schools. Those are discriminatory! But they are legitimate as long as they aren't government funded.

Silly, they're not anti-religious. They're secular, which our country is suppose to be.

Are we still in the age where discriminating people is just fine and dandy?

Private schools have every right to do so. Wether or not you agree is irrelevant