really? I thought it was something you developed that you were predisposed to.....hm....perhaps my Gender studies professor lied to me.
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by Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:54 pm

by Blasveck » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:54 pm
Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)

by Dyakovo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:54 pm
Vazdania wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Not according to your source.
Supposedly. Even if they did, you cannot show that they did it at 0900, 1200, and 1500.
Considering most of them were horrible people by today's standards, I'd definitely say that is not true.
Suppose it WAS once daily, the source goes on to say that you should pray when you eat. Should I remove myself from the classroom everytime before I eat?

by Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:55 pm

by Threlizdun » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:02 pm
All of those could be objectively proven to significantly lessen wellbeing when we observe measurable factors such as mental, physical, and emotional health, socioeconomic development, freedom offered to the populace, equality of the people and other such factors. No, those are all examples that indicate morality is not a matter of opinion, but something that can be determined through scientific inquiry.Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Threlizdun wrote:
Did not the South claim that slavery benefited the wellbeing of African Americans?
Didn't the Nazis initiate the Final Solution in order to serve the wellbeing of a pure Aryan Race?
Was not the Trail of Tears suiting the wellbeing of the Natives, by "protecting" them in Reservations?
Wellbeing and ethics depend on perspective.
by Zottistan » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:16 pm
Threlizdun wrote:All of those could be objectively proven to significantly lessen wellbeing when we observe measurable factors such as mental, physical, and emotional health, socioeconomic development, freedom offered to the populace, equality of the people and other such factors. No, those are all examples that indicate morality is not a matter of opinion, but something that can be determined through scientific inquiry.Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Did not the South claim that slavery benefited the wellbeing of African Americans?
Didn't the Nazis initiate the Final Solution in order to serve the wellbeing of a pure Aryan Race?
Was not the Trail of Tears suiting the wellbeing of the Natives, by "protecting" them in Reservations?
Wellbeing and ethics depend on perspective.

by Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:21 pm
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by Valendia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:42 pm
Tekania wrote:I don't see an issue with a private shool doing this.... I do find issue they receive tax funding through vouchers. So, my contention is not with the school's actions, but rather with the government's here.

by Conservative Conservationists » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:43 pm
Lemanrussland wrote:Conservative Conservationists wrote:
Why?
Accreditation for schools relates to what is taught. As long as they are meeting curriculum demands, it is legitimate.
I would not support tax dollars going to the school, but if people want to waste their own funds, it is their own choice.
Well, perhaps not accreditation under current law (although, I feel showing respect and giving certain civil rights to students should be a required part of accreditation), but at the very least the subsidies should be suspended.

by Liriena » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:47 pm
Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)
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by Geilinor » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:51 pm
Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)

by Benuty » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:51 pm
Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)

by Pandeeria » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:54 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Conservative Conservationists » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:57 pm

by Corsahnim » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:02 pm
Zottistan wrote:Link.
The letter.A Christian private school in Wilmington, NC has announced that it has adopted a so-called “Biblical Morality Policy” that allows the school to expel or refuse to admit LGBT children or children from families with LGBT members. According to Salon.com, the letter was written by Myrtle Grove Christian School President J. Stacy Miller.
The letter (embedded here) begins by evoking the childhood game “Duck Duck Goose.”
“Do you remember playing circle games like ‘Duck Duck Goose’ in elementary school?” Miller asked. “In order to form a circle, we would gather in close together, hold hands, and then back up away from the center” and form a circle.
“If we move to far from the center, we can’t hold hands anymore,” the principal warned.
He went on to say that all families with children at Myrtle Grove must sign the “Biblical Morality Policy,” swearing not to participate in, support or affirm “sexual immorality, homosexual activity, or bisexual activity; promoting such practices; or being unable to support the moral principles of the school.”
Compliance with the anti-LGBT policy will enable the school, he said, will help “students to develop a biblical understanding of morality and to pursue a life that is governed by the biblical moral code.”
“For this reason,” said Miller, “the school reserves the right, within its sole discretion, to refuse admission of an applicant or to discontinue enrollment of a student if the atmosphere or conduct within a particular home or the activities of the student are counter to or are in opposition to the biblical lifestyle the school teaches.”
Salon noted that in spite of the exclusionary policy, Myrtle Grove will still be eligible for taxpayer-funded government subsidies in 2014.
To sum up, a private school in North Carolina has adopted a policy that allows them to expel or refuse to admit sexual and gender minority students, or students from families with sexual and gender minority members. Their reasoning? Bible quotes and a terribly put-together metaphor about duck-duck-goose.
Honestly, isn't this illegal? Are private schools exempt from the Civil Rights Act? They shouldn't be. And isn't the school continuing to be open to government subsidies blatantly unconstitutional?
by Zottistan » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:07 pm
Corsahnim wrote:Zottistan wrote:Link.
The letter.
To sum up, a private school in North Carolina has adopted a policy that allows them to expel or refuse to admit sexual and gender minority students, or students from families with sexual and gender minority members. Their reasoning? Bible quotes and a terribly put-together metaphor about duck-duck-goose.
Honestly, isn't this illegal? Are private schools exempt from the Civil Rights Act? They shouldn't be. And isn't the school continuing to be open to government subsidies blatantly unconstitutional?
It's a private school. They can do whatever they want. But that doesn't mean it doesn't piss me off.

by Tekania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:08 pm
Valendia wrote:Tekania wrote:I don't see an issue with a private shool doing this.... I do find issue they receive tax funding through vouchers. So, my contention is not with the school's actions, but rather with the government's here.
I do. The government has a vested interest in having an educated population - religious education is best left for the home.

by Greater Beggnig » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:10 pm
Kushtor wrote:The morality of an ancient tribe of filthy ululating savages is no morality at all.

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