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Postby Jormengand » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:32 pm

Vazdania wrote:
greed and death wrote:They do not have to so why should they ?

Prohibiting students from exercising their religious freedom.

What if your religion mandated killing everyone in the class? Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins, and all. If you're disrupting the class, then they can stop you.

That said, whispering in such a tone that no-one can hear you doesn't really disrupt the class anyway.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:32 pm

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Vazdania wrote:Prohibiting students from exercising their religious freedom.


It's not prohibiting silly.

It's prohibiting someone from practicing their religion if they can not pray at their specified times.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:32 pm

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Pandeeria wrote:
It's not prohibiting silly.

It's prohibiting someone from practicing their religion if they can not pray at their specified times.

You don't have specified times.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:36 pm

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Vazdania wrote:It's prohibiting someone from practicing their religion if they can not pray at their specified times.

You don't have specified times.

Indeed I do 3 times daily. King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily. Best to emulate Biblical people you know.
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Postby Shershah » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:37 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You don't have specified times.

Indeed I do 3 times daily. King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily. Best to emulate Biblical people you know.


Are the specific or just 3 times per day ?

Also the last part... yeah...

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Postby Aeken » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:38 pm

This is fucking horrible.

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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:39 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You don't have specified times.

Indeed I do 3 times daily. King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily. Best to emulate Biblical people you know.

Then pray sometime before or after school. You can assign your three times to be outside of school hours.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:41 pm

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Vazdania wrote:Indeed I do 3 times daily. King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily. Best to emulate Biblical people you know.


Are the specific or just 3 times per day ?

Also the last part... yeah...

At least....I mean that is not including things like breakfast or lunch or even dinner......
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:41 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Indeed I do 3 times daily. King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily. Best to emulate Biblical people you know.

Then pray sometime before or after school. You can assign your three times to be outside of school hours.

9am 12pm 3pm
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Aeken wrote:This is fucking horrible.

why? Its a private religious school?
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:42 pm

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I oppose religion due to the fact that it is an illogical fairytale.

I don't believe that the government should be funding any private schools. I wasn't aware that this school was.

The tax part is unconstitutional, but the fact that it is "unethical" has no relevence. Ethics can mean anything from advocating genocide to peace. It only exists as a perception, not a truth.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:43 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You don't have specified times.

Indeed I do 3 times daily.

Not according to your source.
Vazdania wrote:King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily.

Supposedly. Even if they did, you cannot show that they did it at 0900, 1200, and 1500.
Vazdania wrote:Best to emulate Biblical people you know.

Considering most of them were horrible people by today's standards, I'd definitely say that is not true.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:44 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Then pray sometime before or after school. You can assign your three times to be outside of school hours.

9am 12pm 3pm

Those are the times you chose, they are not specified in your religion's rules.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:45 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Indeed I do 3 times daily.

Not according to your source.
Vazdania wrote:King David Prayed 3 times daily. Daniel in Babylon prayed 3 times daily.

Supposedly. Even if they did, you cannot show that they did it at 0900, 1200, and 1500.
Vazdania wrote:Best to emulate Biblical people you know.

Considering most of them were horrible people by today's standards, I'd definitely say that is not true.

Suppose it WAS once daily, the source goes on to say that you should pray when you eat. Should I remove myself from the classroom everytime before I eat?
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:46 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Vazdania wrote:9am 12pm 3pm

Those are the times you chose, they are not specified in your religion's rules.

That's not necessarily the Most authoritative source...just letting you know.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:46 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Then pray sometime before or after school. You can assign your three times to be outside of school hours.

9am 12pm 3pm

If you don't even actually pray at that time according to Dyakovo, then you really have no argument.
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Postby Shershah » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:46 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Then pray sometime before or after school. You can assign your three times to be outside of school hours.

9am 12pm 3pm


Are you implying that praying need be done at those times or that you do them at those times ?

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Postby Shershah » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Vazdania wrote:Suppose it WAS once daily, the source goes on to say that you should pray when you eat. Should I remove myself from the classroom everytime before I eat?


Do you eat during class ?

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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Shershah wrote:
Vazdania wrote:9am 12pm 3pm


Are you implying that praying need be done at those times or that you do them at those times ?

Need to.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Shershah wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Suppose it WAS once daily, the source goes on to say that you should pray when you eat. Should I remove myself from the classroom everytime before I eat?


Do you eat during class ?

Of course?
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Postby Austro-German Prussia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:48 pm

An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)
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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:48 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:
I oppose religion due to the fact that it is an illogical fairytale.

I don't believe that the government should be funding any private schools. I wasn't aware that this school was.
Then you do believe in morality. If you didn't you wouldn't have views about anything. You should also understand that pretending that indoctrinating children into a faith and calling it educational is illogical, even if you fail to admit it is unethical.

The tax part is unconstitutional, but the fact that it is "unethical" has no relevence. Ethics can mean anything from advocating genocide to peace. It only exists as a perception, not a truth.
No, ethics describes activities that promote sentient wellbeing. There are objective truths to what does and doesn't do this.
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Postby Shershah » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:48 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Shershah wrote:
Do you eat during class ?

Of course?


That is a first for me. I thought it was only during breaks ?

Vazdania wrote:
Shershah wrote:
Are you implying that praying need be done at those times or that you do them at those times ?

Need to.


According to ?

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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:51 pm

Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)

Sexual orientation isn't a disease that you catch, but something you are born with.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:53 pm

Austro-German Prussia wrote:An amazing display that can only be applauded. Homosexuals around non-homosexuals only leads to more homosexuals and causes psychological problems (ie gender dystrophy)

Yeah, lot lived in Sodom, and he was perfectly fine.
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