Ukrainian Crisis

[Geilinor]

Yes.

Maybe later, when you're behaving.

no, I'm not the one that feels he has to defend Putin and russia.

I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

When's that?

[Mike the Progressive]

no, I'm not the one that feels he has to defend Putin and russia.

I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

I'm not pretending anything. Like I said before, it's sickening that you were willing to condemn American unilateralism all the while coming to the defense of Russia who is doing the exact same thing. "Peace-keeping?" "Ethnic-tensions?" Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Someone should make a world war III form guide.

[Oaledonia]

I cannot believe Russia invaded Ukraine! I hope this does not cause WWIII

Best post. You win the thread.

[Shofercia]

Claiming that Crimean Tatars hate Russia/Russians/Crimeans enough to start an insurgency similar to Chechnya's is either extremely stupid, or Russophobic. Take your pick.

And so we come full circle to you not reading my posts.
Which is either extremely ignorant, or knowledge-phobic. Multiple choice is acceptable.

Your initial post, the one that I called Russophobic, made that exact claim. Later on, you admitted that it was a bad claim to make. So now we come full circle to you not reading my posts, which is either extremely ignorant, or knowledge-phobic. Multiple choice is acceptable.

[Justin States]

Maybe later, when you're behaving.




I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

When's that?

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[Occupied Deutschland]

And so we come full circle to you not reading my posts.
Which is either extremely ignorant, or knowledge-phobic. Multiple choice is acceptable.

Your initial post, the one that I called Russophobic, made that exact claim.
...

Except it didn't.
Edit: Without justification.

[Saint-Thor]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

[Shofercia]

Maybe later, when you're behaving.




I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

When's that?

Anti-LGBT law. There were other exceptions, but I'm not going to repeat them for you, since I already stated them in this very thread.

I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

I'm not pretending anything. Like I said before, it's sickening that you were willing to condemn American unilateralism all the while coming to the defense of Russia who is doing the exact same thing. "Peace-keeping?" "Ethnic-tensions?" Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Iraq posed no threat to the US. If Mexico had Ukraine's instability, I might've supported intervention in Mexico, depending on the circumstances.

[Costa Fierro]

Actually none are. That was basically a compendium of unreliable sources.

Elaborate? c:

Infowars: pretty much your load of typical conspiracy theory bullshit about reptilians and the NWO.
Libcom.org: a site run by libertarian communists. Not even sure if such a thing is possible and I'd probably be wary of the stuff they post.
RT.com: essentially a propaganda site funded by the Kremlin.
DailyKos: haven't a clue.

[Mike the Progressive]

Maybe later, when you're behaving.




I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

When's that?

Well he does oppose the gay hate that Putin embraces, but it's nothing like the scapegoating a certain one testicle man did years ago with another group of people that were too few to defend themselves. And if you shall make that comparison, Goodwin shall be declared -even though that's not really a thing.

[Guadalupador]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

It's better than the Kremlin's English PR machine, aka RT.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

Then listen to RT.

They'll give you ALL the news about the global bankster illuminati Jewish lizard-men conspiracy that's propping up neo-nazis in Ukraine against the crusading forces of Slavic beauty and wonderfulness.

[Geilinor]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

Am I the only one who is annoyed by the way ULTRA biased Russian media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

[Desp]

No.

He provided 4 sources. You dismissed one of them.
He still has three legitimate sources.

RT is a Russian owned and operated new site and TV network in an authoritarian government where its illegal to protest the president? You wouldn't call that biased?

And some may call it ignorance, but I wouldn't call a small group of British libertarian communists running libcom as the most legitimate source on the internet either.
Didn't bother looking at the last on as he said it was largely images, and I've seen enough of those over the past few weeks/

[Euloria]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

You point out the Western media for bias? Certainly Fox News is biased, but they always are. BBC has had a pretty reliable account of the whole thing. Much better than RT or the Maidan news have. I mean RT has spewed nothing but propaganda and the Maidan news, although I have not read much of it, I imagine to be rather biased.

[Srboslavija]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

Am I the only one who is annoyed by the way ULTRA biased Russian media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

You read/watch a lot of Russian media?

[Regnum Dominae]

Russian soldiers besieging Ukrainian military installations and threatening to murder their families if they don't defect to Russia is not part of the Kharkov Pact.

Source?

http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/gunmen-sur ... in-crimea/
https://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/pho ... 38231.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26414600

It is possible that the allegation of Russian soldiers threatening to murder Ukrainian soldiers' families if they don't surrender is false. But it is undeniable that Ukrainian military installations are being beseiged.

[Regnum Dominae]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

BBC is biased? Their coverage of the conflict seems to be impartial and accurate.

[Geilinor]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by the way ULTRA biased Russian media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

You read/watch a lot of Russian media?

I've been reading the RT articles you quote.

[Mike the Progressive]

I'm not pretending anything. Like I said before, it's sickening that you were willing to condemn American unilateralism all the while coming to the defense of Russia who is doing the exact same thing. "Peace-keeping?" "Ethnic-tensions?" Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Iraq posed no threat to the US. If Mexico had Ukraine's instability, I might've supported intervention in Mexico, depending on the circumstances.

And Ukraine posed no threat to Russia. I mean remember earlier? you scoffing at the comparison that their military is any match for Russia? Or should the US have intervened in Mexico because an American got his head chopped off? Clearly a sign of the country in chaos and "ethnic tensions" about to erupt into a Holocaust 2.0.

[Euloria]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by the way ULTRA biased Russian media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

You read/watch a lot of Russian media?

RT is a largely state controlled news organization that was known for its bias before the crisis. It has really stepped up the rhetoric lately.

[Costa Fierro]

Am I the only who is annoyed by the way our ULTRA biased western media are presenting the whole thing? Unprofessional journalism at its finest. Unprofessional or manipulative, your take.

Might have to put a warning up for sharp edges.

[Shofercia]

Your initial post, the one that I called Russophobic, made that exact claim.
...

Except it didn't.
Edit: Without justification.

Your entire post:

No, not unless Russia is prepared for long term, costly war. US is capable of striking in Crimea from its bases throughout Europe which it will do if Russia violates Ukrainian territorial sovereignty.

Not to mention the significant minority of Crimean tatars in the Crimea (and Russia itself, for that matter).

They despise Russia more than the government in Kiev could even hope to. Should the Russians come waltzing in, they'd more likely than not face an insurgency similar to that that occurred in Ichkeria/Chechnya.

Where's the justification? Oh, also this, [Crimean Tatars] despise Russia more than the government in Kiev could even hope to is highly Russophobic, since the Government in Kiev included Svoboda in the coalition. Would you like to continue embarrassing yourself? Stalin fucked them, why despise the rest of the country? I'm not a fan of Stalin, and I don't hate Russia.

[Regnum Dominae]

Elaborate? c:

Infowars: pretty much your load of typical conspiracy theory bullshit about reptilians and the NWO.
Libcom.org: a site run by libertarian communists. Not even sure if such a thing is possible and I'd probably be wary of the stuff they post.
RT.com: essentially a propaganda site funded by the Kremlin.
DailyKos: haven't a clue.

It's an ultraliberal blog site in which anyone can post their stories to the website. So yeah, not exactly reliable.