Ukrainian Crisis

[The Soviet Republic of America]

Don't Hate :P

Appreciate my "clever" use of sources :3

[Srboslavija]

Invasion?

You serious? What do you call having thousands of Russian Army soldiers going into the Crimea and occupying the peninsula, when it's obviously Ukrainian territory.

In response to the lawlessness that gripped Ukraine for weeks, culminating in the violent disposal of the democratically elected president, additional troops were sent to ensure the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Kharkiv_Pact is respected. It is imperative that even in turmoil that Russia and Ukraine adhere to their signed treaties.

[Shofercia]

Gay insurgents? WTF?! Do any of the posters here have any problems with Gays? I don't. Srbo doesn't. Da fuck?

Read previous link I posted, bro.

Oh, I see. Do you really want me to make a 360 joke?

I can. But when you're making a "Russia is paying for it by having a drop in their stock market of ten percent, watch out Russia" style of posts, I can't really take those posts seriously, especially since I've heard the same fearmongering during the Ossetian War. Been there, heard that, next!

And we're back to the days of "lol ur stupid".

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

And we're back to the days of "lol ur stupid".

At least he hasn't started quoting himself yet.

So insecure in your argument that you have to be me-tooing?

[Estruia]

Don't Hate

Appreciate my "clever" use of sources :3

No.

[Geilinor]

You serious? What do you call having thousands of Russian Army soldiers going into the Crimea and occupying the peninsula, when it's obviously Ukrainian territory.

In response to the lawlessness that gripped Ukraine for weeks, culminating in the violent disposal of the democratically elected president, additional troops were sent to ensure the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Kharkiv_Pact is respected. It is imperative that even in turmoil that Russia and Ukraine adhere to their signed treaties.

Did you read the "Criticisms" section of your article? The Kharkiv Pact arguably violates the constitution of Ukraine.

[Wolfenium]

I wonder how many times the words "Russophobe" and "Russophobia" appeared in this thread.

Not many, apparently. The searches came up less than 40, including your post.

[Guadalupador]

Don't Hate

Appreciate my "clever" use of sources :3

I don't see what was clever about them. Unless they were jokes.

[Shofercia]

Don't Hate

Appreciate my "clever" use of sources :3

Infowars is not a source. If you see something on Infowars and think that's valid, find another source.

[Regnum Dominae]

You serious? What do you call having thousands of Russian Army soldiers going into the Crimea and occupying the peninsula, when it's obviously Ukrainian territory.

In response to the lawlessness that gripped Ukraine for weeks, culminating in the violent disposal of the democratically elected president, additional troops were sent to ensure the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Kharkiv_Pact is respected. It is imperative that even in turmoil that Russia and Ukraine adhere to their signed treaties.

Russian soldiers besieging Ukrainian military installations and threatening to murder their families if they don't defect to Russia is not part of the Kharkov Pact.

[Costa Fierro]

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

[Geilinor]

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

Nothing scares the Russian Bear. :nods:

[UED]

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

lol
Apparently economy doesn't matter anymore.

[Occupied Deutschland]

I told you already.
I was referencing the only other anti-Russian, Muslim resistance movement I could think of. It's a bad comparison, as I've already conceded, because a Tatar one wouldn't have mountains and shit to hide in, nor numbers and easy support, nor any other number of factors which contributed to the effectiveness of the Chechan insurgency.

I was comparing them solely based on their existence as anti-Russian movements.

I made no claim as to their effectiveness or ability to be carried out for an extended time or be successful.

You could at least try to read my posts rather than jump straight to the accusations of 'Russophobia'.
That's kind of the problem with Russian apologists, and it'd be a shame to see you take that same road.

When you talk about an insurgency, I presume that you're talking about at least a semi effective group. Can you name non semi-effective insurgents without resorting to Google? I know I cannot, aside from the Minervan Insurgency which is a joke, and your post sounded serious. But, from now on, when you say insurgency, I'll be sure to ask if you're talking about a semi-effective one, or one that I can simply ignore.

Additionally, the post that I accused of being Russophobic, was Russophobic, and even you admitted that said comparison was bad.

In that case, this shall henceforth be my reaction to the term 'Russophobic':

Whether you can ignore it or not doesn't really matter in the definition of 'insurgency' does it?

[Vitaphone Racing]

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

Obviously not, Russia's prepared to stop exporting gas just to prove a point.

[Jinwoy]

Don't Hate

Appreciate my "clever" use of sources :3

No.

He provided 4 sources. You dismissed one of them.
He still has three legitimate sources.

[Mike the Progressive]

Read previous link I posted, bro.

Oh, I see. Do you really want me to make a 360 joke?

Yes.

At least he hasn't started quoting himself yet.

So insecure in your argument that you have to be me-tooing?

no, I'm not the one that feels he has to defend Putin and russia.

[Regnum Dominae]

No.

He provided 4 sources. You dismissed one of them.
He still has three legitimate sources.

Actually none are. That was basically a compendium of unreliable sources.

[Estruia]

No.

He provided 4 sources. You dismissed one of them.
He still has three legitimate sources.

The Daily Kos is literally nothing more than a political blog that publishes their take on stories around the world.

Russia Today... Legitimate

[Srboslavija]

In response to the lawlessness that gripped Ukraine for weeks, culminating in the violent disposal of the democratically elected president, additional troops were sent to ensure the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Kharkiv_Pact is respected. It is imperative that even in turmoil that Russia and Ukraine adhere to their signed treaties.

Russian soldiers besieging Ukrainian military installations and threatening to murder their families if they don't defect to Russia is not part of the Kharkov Pact.

Source?

[Jinwoy]

He provided 4 sources. You dismissed one of them.
He still has three legitimate sources.

Actually none are. That was basically a compendium of unreliable sources.

Elaborate? c:

[Shofercia]

No, we're back to the days of "been there, done that". We went through the same crap during the Ossetian War. It didn't scare us then, and it won't scare us now.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

26%. And no, it wouldn't.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

lol
Apparently economy doesn't matter anymore.

Economy matters. But there are going to be fluctuations, especially in the Russian stock market. A steady decline over a period of several years is scary. A sharp decline followed by a cool rebound, that's just not that scary.

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

Nothing scares the Russian Bear. :nods:

Bear Cavalry!

When you talk about an insurgency, I presume that you're talking about at least a semi effective group. Can you name non semi-effective insurgents without resorting to Google? I know I cannot, aside from the Minervan Insurgency which is a joke, and your post sounded serious. But, from now on, when you say insurgency, I'll be sure to ask if you're talking about a semi-effective one, or one that I can simply ignore.

Additionally, the post that I accused of being Russophobic, was Russophobic, and even you admitted that said comparison was bad.

In that case, this shall henceforth be my reaction to the term 'Russophobic':

Whether you can ignore it or not doesn't really matter in the definition of 'insurgency' does it?

Claiming that Crimean Tatars hate Russia/Russians/Crimeans enough to start an insurgency similar to Chechnya's is either extremely stupid, or Russophobic. Take your pick.

[UED]

Losing 24% of your GDP wouldn't scare you?

26%. And no, it wouldn't.

lol
Apparently economy doesn't matter anymore.

Economy matters. But there are going to be fluctuations, especially in the Russian stock market. A steady decline over a period of several years is scary. A sharp decline followed by a cool rebound, that's just not that scary.

Nothing scares the Russian Bear. :nods:

Bear Cavalry!

In that case, this shall henceforth be my reaction to the term 'Russophobic':

Whether you can ignore it or not doesn't really matter in the definition of 'insurgency' does it?

Claiming that Crimean Tatars hate Russia/Russians/Crimeans enough to start an insurgency similar to Chechnya's is either extremely stupid, or Russophobic. Take your pick.

I was joking on mine
XD

[Natanian DRNR]

I cannot believe Russia invaded Ukraine! I hope this does not cause WWIII

[Shofercia]

Oh, I see. Do you really want me to make a 360 joke?

Yes.

Maybe later, when you're behaving.

So insecure in your argument that you have to be me-tooing?

no, I'm not the one that feels he has to defend Putin and russia.

I defend Putin when I either agree with his decisions, or think that he doesn't have a better alternative. I don't defend Putin when I disagree with him. You can stop pretending otherwise, it's getting old.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Claiming that Crimean Tatars hate Russia/Russians/Crimeans enough to start an insurgency similar to Chechnya's is either extremely stupid, or Russophobic. Take your pick.

And so we come full circle to you not reading my posts.
Which is either extremely ignorant, or knowledge-phobic. Multiple choice is acceptable.