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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:17 pm

I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.
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Postby The balkens » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:19 pm

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Image


Oh my......

That is either porn or a shitty zombie movie.

I am going with the former.

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Postby Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:19 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.


I predict... nothing will happen.
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Postby The Soviet Republic of America » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 pm

Other than the fact that the U.S, NATO, and the EU have supported a coup in Ukraine, which is a blatant violation of international law.The Western government have us believe that “The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space."

The forbidden truth is that the West has engineered, through a carefully staged covert operation, the formation of a proxy regime integrated by Neo-Nazis. Key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.

Sorry about the long post... but really the US and other western countries are on the wrong side of this conflict. For once... Russia isn't really the bad guy in this. They're preventing further turmoil in Ukraine.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 pm

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Oh my......

That is either porn or a shitty zombie movie.

I am going with the former.

Rule 34, I guess.

Interestingly enough, there is apparently an episode from an old childrens' show that features Stalin trying to take over the world with an army of zombie robots (don't ask how that works, I guess he watched I, Robot and some zombie movie, and couldn't decide which he liked more).
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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:22 pm

Jinwoy wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.


I predict... nothing will happen.


Most likely, But according to TYT the Russians told a Ukrainian Anti-Submarine ship and a Command ship to surrender or be boarded with in the hour.
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Postby Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:22 pm

The Soviet Republic of America wrote:Other than the fact that the U.S, NATO, and the EU have supported a coup in Ukraine, which is a blatant violation of international law.The Western government have us believe that “The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space."

The forbidden truth is that the West has engineered, through a carefully staged covert operation, the formation of a proxy regime integrated by Neo-Nazis. Key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.

Sorry about the long post... but really the US and other western countries are on the wrong side of this conflict. For once... Russia isn't really the bad guy in this. They're preventing further turmoil in Ukraine.


I need sources for everything you just said.
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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:23 pm

The Soviet Republic of America wrote:Other than the fact that the U.S, NATO, and the EU have supported a coup in Ukraine, which is a blatant violation of international law.The Western government have us believe that “The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space."

The forbidden truth is that the West has engineered, through a carefully staged covert operation, the formation of a proxy regime integrated by Neo-Nazis. Key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.

Sorry about the long post... but really the US and other western countries are on the wrong side of this conflict. For once... Russia isn't really the bad guy in this. They're preventing further turmoil in Ukraine.


Got any sources to back that up? I'm serious, I am curious where you get these assertions.

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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:24 pm

The balkens wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Image


Oh my......

That is either porn or a shitty zombie movie.

I am going with the former.


I'm pretty sure its from the video for All Nightmare Long by Metallica.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:25 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:
I predict... nothing will happen.


Most likely, But according to TYT the Russians told a Ukrainian Anti-Submarine ship and a Command ship to surrender or be boarded with in the hour.

They'll probably delay and see if they can get the west implicated, and if not they'll cede to Russia's vastly superior military.
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Postby The balkens » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Oh my......

That is either porn or a shitty zombie movie.

I am going with the former.


I'm pretty sure its from the video for All Nightmare Long by Metallica.


Probably.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm

Oh God. Things just got serious. Like, if they were serious before this latest event has just made things 10,000x more serious. Russia's probably going to end up moving out of the Crimean Peninsula and advancing on Kyiv for this.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:30 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Oh my......

That is either porn or a shitty zombie movie.

I am going with the former.


I'm pretty sure its from the video for All Nightmare Long by Metallica.

I just watched the music video, and couldn't find that part.
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Postby Estruia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:30 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:Oh God. Things just got serious. Like, if they were serious before this latest event has just made things 10,000x more serious. Russia's probably going to end up moving out of the Crimean Peninsula and advancing on Kyiv for this.
Take a look at this.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:31 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.


That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:31 pm

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MIG-31 interceptors?


There was no mention of a MiG-31, all that I saw was that Ukraine scrambled an SU-27 to head off the Russian jets.


"This is single Su-27. Russian fighter groups, erm, scram. Or not. Do what you want. Can't really do much about it, but can we not fire at each other?"
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United Marxist Nations wrote:No, it is the decision for the Crimeans to make, and they do not approve of such a policy. If the Ukraine's government were to do that, then the vast majority of the Crimea's population would likely welcome a Russian "invasion" with open arms, and, if not, would declare independence.


Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.


Crimeans have autonomy. They're been quite adamant about that.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:32 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.


That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.


It denied by the Russian government but confirmed by the Russian Black Sea Fleet spokesperson... Very confusing?
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:33 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.


That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.

Oh, Russia likes to lie. We've seen it being done.
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There was no mention of a MiG-31, all that I saw was that Ukraine scrambled an SU-27 to head off the Russian jets.


"This is single Su-27. Russian fighter groups, erm, scram. Or not. Do what you want. Can't really do much about it, but can we not fire at each other?"
"Affirmative, we are not firing. Any sightseeing for us?"
"?!?!?!"
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Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.


Crimeans have autonomy. They're been quite adamant about that.

Russia might get a lot of popular support in the area if they appeal to the Tatars.
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Postby Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:33 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.


It denied by the Russian government but confirmed by the Russian Black Sea Fleet spokesperson... Very confusing?


Source.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:34 pm

Jinwoy wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:
It denied by the Russian government but confirmed by the Russian Black Sea Fleet spokesperson... Very confusing?


Source.

It said so in the article he already cited.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:34 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:Oh, Russia likes to lie. We've seen it being done.


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Postby Estruia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Estruia wrote:
There was no mention of a MiG-31, all that I saw was that Ukraine scrambled an SU-27 to head off the Russian jets.


"This is single Su-27. Russian fighter groups, erm, scram. Or not. Do what you want. Can't really do much about it, but can we not fire at each other?"
"Affirmative, we are not firing. Any sightseeing for us?"
"?!?!?!"
"What? We cannot fire at you and you cannot fire at us. We might as well see the sights. Any recommendations?"


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Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.


Crimeans have autonomy. They're been quite adamant about that.


The Russian jets left, and never came back, so...
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Oh, Russia likes to lie. We've seen it being done.


Putin don't lie.

That needs to be captioned on Putin's face for me to believe it.
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Postby Wolfenium » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm

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Shnercropolis wrote:Oh, Russia likes to lie. We've seen it being done.


Putin don't lie.


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