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by United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:17 pm
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by The balkens » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:19 pm

by Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:19 pm
United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.

by The Soviet Republic of America » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 pm

by United Marxist Nations » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 pm
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by United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:22 pm
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by Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:22 pm
The Soviet Republic of America wrote:Other than the fact that the U.S, NATO, and the EU have supported a coup in Ukraine, which is a blatant violation of international law.The Western government have us believe that “The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space."
The forbidden truth is that the West has engineered, through a carefully staged covert operation, the formation of a proxy regime integrated by Neo-Nazis. Key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.
Sorry about the long post... but really the US and other western countries are on the wrong side of this conflict. For once... Russia isn't really the bad guy in this. They're preventing further turmoil in Ukraine.

by Connori Pilgrims » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:23 pm
The Soviet Republic of America wrote:Other than the fact that the U.S, NATO, and the EU have supported a coup in Ukraine, which is a blatant violation of international law.The Western government have us believe that “The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space."
The forbidden truth is that the West has engineered, through a carefully staged covert operation, the formation of a proxy regime integrated by Neo-Nazis. Key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.
Sorry about the long post... but really the US and other western countries are on the wrong side of this conflict. For once... Russia isn't really the bad guy in this. They're preventing further turmoil in Ukraine.

by Blazedtown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:24 pm

by Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:25 pm

by United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm
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by The balkens » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm

by Occupied Deutschland » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:26 pm

by United Marxist Nations » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:30 pm
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.

by Estruia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:30 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Oh God. Things just got serious. Like, if they were serious before this latest event has just made things 10,000x more serious. Russia's probably going to end up moving out of the Crimean Peninsula and advancing on Kyiv for this.
Take a look at this.Gays in Ukraine! Gays in the Ukraine! As if Russia needed a pretext to move further, now they have one. They have to protect their Slavic brothers from the vile spreading of nontraditional sexual mores don't you know!
Why would you force their hand like this Anderson Cooper!

by Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:31 pm
United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.
by Shofercia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:31 pm
Timurid Empire wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:No, it is the decision for the Crimeans to make, and they do not approve of such a policy. If the Ukraine's government were to do that, then the vast majority of the Crimea's population would likely welcome a Russian "invasion" with open arms, and, if not, would declare independence.
Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.

by United States of Devonta » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:32 pm
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.
That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.
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by Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:33 pm
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:United States Of Devonta wrote:I'm not sure if any one forgot but that ultimatum ends in an hour or less and the brave Ukrainians still have not surrendered. I think we might see allot of valiant deaths and military last stands in the history book.
That ultimatum was denied by the Russians. They will only act if provoked. Although given the situation, thats perfectly possible.
Shofercia wrote:Estruia wrote:
There was no mention of a MiG-31, all that I saw was that Ukraine scrambled an SU-27 to head off the Russian jets.
"This is single Su-27. Russian fighter groups, erm, scram. Or not. Do what you want. Can't really do much about it, but can we not fire at each other?"
"Affirmative, we are not firing. Any sightseeing for us?"
"?!?!?!"
"What? We cannot fire at you and you cannot fire at us. We might as well see the sights. Any recommendations?"Timurid Empire wrote:
Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.
Crimeans have autonomy. They're been quite adamant about that.

by Jinwoy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:33 pm

by Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:34 pm

by Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:34 pm

by Estruia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm
Shofercia wrote:Estruia wrote:
There was no mention of a MiG-31, all that I saw was that Ukraine scrambled an SU-27 to head off the Russian jets.
"This is single Su-27. Russian fighter groups, erm, scram. Or not. Do what you want. Can't really do much about it, but can we not fire at each other?"
"Affirmative, we are not firing. Any sightseeing for us?"
"?!?!?!"
"What? We cannot fire at you and you cannot fire at us. We might as well see the sights. Any recommendations?"Timurid Empire wrote:
Just for clarification, when I say it is an internal thing for Ukraine to deal with, I mean for Ukrainian citizens, which includes the people of Crimea. If the people of the lands of Ukrainian Crimea want autonomy or some such, they can petition for it, and I'd say power to 'em. But not when there are Russian troops marching through the land.
Crimeans have autonomy. They're been quite adamant about that.

by Shnercropolis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm

by Wolfenium » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:35 pm
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