Ukrainian Crisis

[Myrensis]

Well let's think. Russia decides to go full retard and invade the Ukraine for no apparent reason like Bush did with I-Rack. Ukraine declares war and attempts to resist. Russia gets to Kiev. Poland shits itself and intervenes to save the incumbent Ukrainian government, thus invoking several NATO clauses and bringing the US into direct and possible open conflict with Russia.

I agree with the inverse of your statement. We can all see that this is will and will never become an open conflict. Just subtle then later open occupation of the whole mainland Ukraine should be expected. At least the referendum in itself is a feat.

Russia attempting to take the whole of Ukraine very possibly would escalate into open conflict. Nobody is interested in going back to the bad old days where the entirety of eastern Europe is staring down the barrel of an aggressive and expansionistic Russian empire.

[Asilian]

Yes, and to tell you the truth I DONT CARE!!!! See it is my wholesome view as an American that, since we have played nanny to the world since we appointed ourselves to that position in 1947 that we get to retire one day, and let the kids play hide and seek in the ravine behind the house, guess what kids! todays the day nanny retires!

I dearly hope to see the day when America somehow turns defenseless and is invaded by Mexico to defend the Mexican Spanish-speaking population.

I wonder if you won't care then.

well considering im a staunch enemy of American Imperiialism, and thus against President Zachary Taylor and his Mexican-American War, and the gains...we..well...gained, from that, I would find just such a scenario horribly ironic and untterly entertaining...

[Regnum Dominae]

I dearly hope to see the day when America somehow turns defenseless and is invaded by Mexico to defend the Mexican Spanish-speaking population.

I wonder if you won't care then.

well considering im a staunch enemy of American Imperiialism, and thus against President Zachary Taylor and his Mexican-American War, and the gains...we..well...gained, from that, I would find just such a scenario horribly ironic and untterly entertaining...

As an actual American who lives in a state bordering Mexico that has a Hispanic plurality (?)Hispanic near-plurality (39.7% non-Hispanic white; 38.1% Hispanic), I wouldn't. Irredentism is stupid.

[Costa Fierro]

Yes, and to tell you the truth I DONT CARE!!!!

Dat's kewl bro.

See it is my wholesome view as an American that, since we have played nanny to the world since we appointed ourselves to that position in 1947 that we get to retire one day, and let the kids play hide and seek in the ravine behind the house, guess what kids! todays the day nanny retires!

And leave all those countries you have defence agreements with hanging? The US will always be involved in politics because it has global interests in other nations. It has to be involved in the Ukraine because it doesn't want the shit there to escalate and have to be brought in on a military footing. Any wrong move in Russia could threaten the stability of the region and that would create a direct threat to member states of NATO. So even if the US doesn't want to be involved politically, it has to in order to make sure that the shit does not hit the fan.

[Asigna]

As an actual American who lives in a state bordering Mexico that has a Hispanic plurality (?), I wouldn't. Irredentism is stupid.

No it's not. Sometimes, it is crucial that we fix the accidents of the past in the present.

[Arglorand]

As an actual American who lives in a state bordering Mexico that has a Hispanic plurality (?), I wouldn't. Irredentism is stupid.

No it's not. Sometimes, it is crucial that we fix the accidents of the past in the present.

That's not the definition of irredentism and you know it.

[Purpelia]

I agree with the inverse of your statement. We can all see that this is will and will never become an open conflict. Just subtle then later open occupation of the whole mainland Ukraine should be expected. At least the referendum in itself is a feat.

Russia attempting to take the whole of Ukraine very possibly would escalate into open conflict. Nobody is interested in going back to the bad old days where the entirety of eastern Europe is staring down the barrel of an aggressive and expansionistic Russian empire.

Speak for your self.

[Free Tristania]

As an actual American who lives in a state bordering Mexico that has a Hispanic plurality (?), I wouldn't. Irredentism is stupid.

No it's not. Sometimes, it is crucial that we fix the accidents of the past in the present.

I agree: if Mexico makes a move America should flatten it Dresden 1945 style. If you have the tools: use them. Like they did a couple of times before during the Mexican-American wars (and there have been several).

[Arglorand]

Russia attempting to take the whole of Ukraine very possibly would escalate into open conflict. Nobody is interested in going back to the bad old days where the entirety of eastern Europe is staring down the barrel of an aggressive and expansionistic Russian empire.

Speak for your self.

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

[Free Tristania]

Speak for your self.

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

One of those lefties, I suppose. You know how they are.

[Regnum Dominae]

As an actual American who lives in a state bordering Mexico that has a Hispanic plurality (?), I wouldn't. Irredentism is stupid.

No it's not. Sometimes, it is crucial that we fix the accidents of the past in the present.

Considering that this would mean forcibly transferring the jurisdiction of ~55 million residents of a developed first-world country into a nation struggling from a violent drug war, I have only one thing to say: NO.

Also, do you realize that this would mean that the efforts of millions of Mexicans to find a better life in America would be all for naught?

[Purpelia]

Speak for your self.

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

No, I just support Putin for no particular reason.

[Arglorand]

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

One of those lefties, I suppose. You know how they are.

I'm a lefty and I have no such ridiculous ideas.

[Regnum Dominae]

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

No, I just support Putin for no particular reason.

Why do you support him if you have no reason for doing so?

[Arglorand]

Are you one of those "the free world needs an enemy" types?

No, I just support Putin for no particular reason.

Oh, so you're a Nilfgaardist.

[Asilian]

Yes, and to tell you the truth I DONT CARE!!!!

Dat's kewl bro.

See it is my wholesome view as an American that, since we have played nanny to the world since we appointed ourselves to that position in 1947 that we get to retire one day, and let the kids play hide and seek in the ravine behind the house, guess what kids! todays the day nanny retires!

And leave all those countries you have defence agreements with hanging? The US will always be involved in politics because it has global interests in other nations. It has to be involved in the Ukraine because it doesn't want the shit there to escalate and have to be brought in on a military footing. Any wrong move in Russia could threaten the stability of the region and that would create a direct threat to member states of NATO. So even if the US doesn't want to be involved politically, it has to in order to make sure that the shit does not hit the fan.

That whole NATO crap is bull, almost as bad as the Legue of Nations and just as quarelsome, let us not make a mistake here ladies and gentleman-America is not vested in places because of its' moral standard, it's' government has no moral standard. This government only sees profit to be made, not lives to be saved, do not mistake the two...

[Arglorand]

No, I just support Putin for no particular reason.

Why do you support him if you have no reason for doing so?

I am genuinely starting to confuse your posts with mine.

[Asigna]

That's not the definition of irredentism and you know it.

I fudging know what irredentism is. I support my country's claim of Sabah, Spratlys and would like to ignite a claim on Guam, Palau and Nauru.

[Purpelia]

No, I just support Putin for no particular reason.

Why do you support him if you have no reason for doing so?

I guess it's just me being a communist. I mean sure, there ain't no Soviet Union any more and Stalin is dead. But a strong leader at the helm of Russia is about as good as the world can scrounge up at this point. So better something than nothing.

[Arglorand]

That's not the definition of irredentism and you know it.

I fudging know what irredentism is. I support my country's claim of Sabah, Spratlys and would like to ignite a claim on Guam, Palau and Nauru.

Irredentism is the idea that every territory with a given number of members of a nation ought to be part of it.

So basically, all your base are belong to Lithuania, because there's at least a handful of us /everywhere/.

[Asilian]

No it's not. Sometimes, it is crucial that we fix the accidents of the past in the present.

Considering that this would mean forcibly transferring the jurisdiction of ~55 million residents of a developed first-world country into a nation struggling from a violent drug war, I have only one thing to say: NO.

Also, do you realize that this would mean that the efforts of millions of Mexicans to find a better life in America would be all for naught?

Well that's very true, but is what Mexico goes through everyday-minus the whole, hang your by your intestines from a bridge-thing, any worse than that which some of America's inner cities go through as well...?

[Asigna]

So basically, all your base are belong to Lithuania, because there's at least a handful of us /everywhere/.

Wrong, that title belongs to Filipinos.

[Arglorand]

Why do you support him if you have no reason for doing so?

I guess it's just me being a communist. I mean sure, there ain't no Soviet Union any more and Stalin is dead. But a strong leader at the helm of Russia is about as good as the world can scrounge up at this point. So better something than nothing.

There is nothing communist at all about the most unequal country in the world.

[Regnum Dominae]

That's not the definition of irredentism and you know it.

I fudging know what irredentism is. I support my country's claim of Sabah, Spratlys and would like to ignite a claim on Guam, Palau and Nauru.

1) What is your country? And what justifies irredentism?
2) Why should the US do something as idiotic as give the Southwest to Mexico? / What gives Mexico the right to take back the American Southwest?
3) How does any of this justify Russia's actions in the Crimea?

[Free Tristania]

That's not the definition of irredentism and you know it.

I fudging know what irredentism is. I support my country's claim of Sabah, Spratlys and would like to ignite a claim on Guam, Palau and Nauru.

This will mean war with Free Tristania. Ooh wait...

I definetely think that Sabah and the Spratleys should be Filipino soil. They are - but they are temporarily occupied.