Ukrainian Crisis

[The Great Warrior Rivers]

Debbie Downer Alert:

This has a very high risk of being locked for getting off topic.

[Volnotova]

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In other (more ontopic) news:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/jan/2 ... d-by-kiev/

Opposition has been offered government positions and amendments to the constitution: They have subsequently rejected the offer.

Protesters have now also besieged the nearby building where the police are stationed.

Click here for livestream

[NorthEast Alliance]

(Repost from last page)

In other (more ontopic) news:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/jan/2 ... d-by-kiev/

Opposition has been offered government positions and amendments to the constitution: They have subsequently rejected the offer.

Protesters have now also besieged the nearby building where the police are stationed.

Click here for livestream

This is were the Ukrainian Army should step in and crack down big time. Anarchy should not be tolerated and if that fails bring in Putin and he will restore order with the full might of the Russian Army.

[Esternial]

Also Ukraine is better off without Brussels making unfair demands on it's internal affairs.

I'm saddened to see the only reference of Brussels be in a negative connotation.

Granted, it's quite a miserable city in many places, but a few redeemable locales make it a quaint place for tourism.

As for your issue, I believe that if Ukraine rejects the European Union, their leaders should be equally weary of our good friend Volodya.

[Volnotova]

(Repost from last page)

In other (more ontopic) news:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/jan/2 ... d-by-kiev/

Opposition has been offered government positions and amendments to the constitution: They have subsequently rejected the offer.

Protesters have now also besieged the nearby building where the police are stationed.

Click here for livestream

This is were the Ukrainian Army should step in and crack down big time. Anarchy should not be tolerated and if that fails bring in Putin and he will restore order with the full might of the Russian Army.

I see you are being just as reasonable as the opposition and the government they oppose.

EDIT: I want to add that I am not too keen (to put it lightly) on the opposition's approach. Both sides are behaving irresponsibly.

[NorthEast Alliance]

This is were the Ukrainian Army should step in and crack down big time. Anarchy should not be tolerated and if that fails bring in Putin and he will restore order with the full might of the Russian Army.

I see you are being just as reasonable as the opposition and the government they oppose.

And what do you propose? Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU? Order must be restored in Ukraine via force if needed. Its for the protection of the people of Ukraine!

[Volnotova]

I see you are being just as reasonable as the opposition and the government they oppose.

And what do you propose? Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU? Order must be restored in Ukraine via force if needed. Its for the protection of the people of Ukraine!

No. I propose that both sides calm the hell down and end the calls for more violence (for one).

I don't think either side is being reasonable. The opposition's demands are outrageous. Subsequently, the government is outrageous in thinking it can simply get away with turning Ukraine into a second Belarus.

[The New Lowlands]

I see you are being just as reasonable as the opposition and the government they oppose.

And what do you propose? Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU? Order must be restored in Ukraine via force if needed. Its for the protection of the people of Ukraine!

They're not terrorists, they're protestors.

[NorthEast Alliance]

And what do you propose? Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU? Order must be restored in Ukraine via force if needed. Its for the protection of the people of Ukraine!

No. I propose that both sides calm the hell down and end the calls for more violence (for one).

I don't think either side is being reasonable. The opposition's demands are outrageous. Subsequently, the government is outrageous in thinking it can simply get away with turning Ukraine into a second Belarus.

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread the people of Ukraine would only benefit with having a accomplished leader like Putin managing the affairs of their state. Not total control just a "guiding hand" once and a while. Putin's leadership skill, experience in fighting terrorism and strengthening the Russian economy, and finally protecting family values make him a positive force for Ukraine.

[Geilinor]

I see you are being just as reasonable as the opposition and the government they oppose.

Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU?

Pan-leftist? There are many center-right governments within the EU.

[NorthEast Alliance]

Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU?

Pan-leftist? There are many center-right governments within the EU.

All part of the globalist plot though. David Cameron is "centre-right" yet he supports the EU along with many other so called "right-wingers".

[The New Lowlands]

No. I propose that both sides calm the hell down and end the calls for more violence (for one).

I don't think either side is being reasonable. The opposition's demands are outrageous. Subsequently, the government is outrageous in thinking it can simply get away with turning Ukraine into a second Belarus.

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread the people of Ukraine would only benefit with having a accomplished leader like Putin managing the affairs of their state. Not total control just a "guiding hand" once and a while. Putin's leadership skill, experience in fighting terrorism and strengthening the Russian economy, and finally protecting family values make him a positive force for Ukraine.

Have you ever lived outside a democratic country?

Pan-leftist? There are many center-right governments within the EU.

All part of the globalist plot though. David Cameron is "centre-right" yet he supports the EU along with many other so called "right-wingers".

There is no globalist plot.

[Geilinor]

Pan-leftist? There are many center-right governments within the EU.

All part of the globalist plot though. David Cameron is "centre-right" yet he supports the EU along with many other so called "right-wingers".

Supporting the EU is not a right or left position.

[NorthEast Alliance]

All part of the globalist plot though. David Cameron is "centre-right" yet he supports the EU along with many other so called "right-wingers".

Supporting the EU is not a right or left position.

More and more on the left support it though and it really is Left-Wing nationalism in every sense. Forced collective identity is just the start pretty soon Stalinist policies will be placed in effect to making simply loving your own country a crime. Its happening all over the western world Europe is merely one place.

[The New Lowlands]

Supporting the EU is not a right or left position.

More and more on the left support it though and it really is Left-Wing nationalism in every sense. Forced collective identity is just the start pretty soon Stalinist policies will be placed in effect to making simply loving your own country a crime. Its happening all over the western world Europe is merely one place.

No. And until you can source your bullshit, I suggest you stop writing about it.

[NorthEast Alliance]

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread the people of Ukraine would only benefit with having a accomplished leader like Putin managing the affairs of their state. Not total control just a "guiding hand" once and a while. Putin's leadership skill, experience in fighting terrorism and strengthening the Russian economy, and finally protecting family values make him a positive force for Ukraine.

Have you ever lived outside a democratic country?

All part of the globalist plot though. David Cameron is "centre-right" yet he supports the EU along with many other so called "right-wingers".

There is no globalist plot.

There is a globalist plot though, an unholy alliance of multi-national corporations and far leftists working together via the UN for a NWO.

http://www.infowars.com/

[Marsisian]

Damn Ukrainians. Always relying on big ol' Uncle Russia for aid, they need to grow a fucking pair and join the EU.

[The New Lowlands]

Have you ever lived outside a democratic country?



There is no globalist plot.

There is a globalist plot though, an unholy alliance of multi-national corporations and far leftists working together via the UN for a NWO.

http://www.infowars.com/

You realise infowars is a conspiracy theory website? As in, the ultimate unreliable source?

And don't give me bullshit about how 'herp derp all part of da librul conspiraceh!!!1'; if there was some kind of intergovernmental plot, then you wouldn't be able to read about it anywhere.

[Neoconstantius]

Have you ever lived outside a democratic country?



There is no globalist plot.

There is a globalist plot though, an unholy alliance of multi-national corporations and far leftists working together via the UN for a NWO.

http://www.infowars.com/

Did...did you just cite InfoWars as a valid source?

Well, I think we've identified the problem here...

[Volnotova]

...

http://www.infowars.com/

Oh g-d... did someone just link that?

[NorthEast Alliance]

There is a globalist plot though, an unholy alliance of multi-national corporations and far leftists working together via the UN for a NWO.

http://www.infowars.com/

You realise infowars is a conspiracy theory website? As in, the ultimate unreliable source?

And don't give me bullshit about how 'herp derp all part of da librul conspiraceh!!!1'; if there was some kind of intergovernmental plot, then you wouldn't be able to read about it anywhere.

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter against foreign tyranny in America. Just because he does not conform to the mainstream worldview does not mean he is wrong.

Anyway were getting off topic.

[Neoconstantius]

And what do you propose? Letting terrorists run wild in support for a pan leftist organization known as the EU? Order must be restored in Ukraine via force if needed. Its for the protection of the people of Ukraine!

They're not terrorists, they're protestors.

Rioters would be a better descriptor, honestly...

[The New Lowlands]

You realise infowars is a conspiracy theory website? As in, the ultimate unreliable source?

And don't give me bullshit about how 'herp derp all part of da librul conspiraceh!!!1'; if there was some kind of intergovernmental plot, then you wouldn't be able to read about it anywhere.

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter against foreign tyranny in America. Just because he does not conform to the mainstream worldview does not mean he is wrong.

Anyway were getting off topic.

If there was some kind of conspiracy, his site would be shut down and he'd be black-bagged into Guantanamo. The fact that that hasn't happened indicate either that said conspiracy is too incompetent to be a threat- or, otherwise, that there isn't one.

And please, feel free to answer my question at any time.

[Volnotova]

You realise infowars is a conspiracy theory website? As in, the ultimate unreliable source?

And don't give me bullshit about how 'herp derp all part of da librul conspiraceh!!!1'; if there was some kind of intergovernmental plot, then you wouldn't be able to read about it anywhere.

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter against foreign tyranny in America. Just because he does not conform to the mainstream worldview does not mean he is wrong.

Anyway were getting off topic.

Alex Jones is a self-serving (rich I might add) radio-host who has done numerous (false) "predictions" in the past.

He is the non-religious (Well technically, he a religious nut that believes Obama is the anti-christ) equivalent of a radio preacher "warning" everyone about the supposed "ever near appocalypse" (that really is about to occur any moment now!).

[NorthEast Alliance]

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter against foreign tyranny in America. Just because he does not conform to the mainstream worldview does not mean he is wrong.

Anyway were getting off topic.

If there was some kind of conspiracy, his site would be shut down and he'd be black-bagged into Guantanamo. The fact that that hasn't happened indicate either that said conspiracy is too incompetent to be a threat- or, otherwise, that there isn't one.

And please, feel free to answer my question at any time.

There slow to react, as the years go by more and more people are waking up to the fact to the dangers of radical leftist groups who want a globalized new world order. Its in the open and I wish more people would realize the fact like those rioters in Ukraine for example.