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The Emerald Dawn
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:53 am

New Laikland wrote:
Galloism wrote:This is... probably not true.

Surveys say that women commit more domestic violence than men.

Arrest records show more men are arrested.

So... there may be some issue of male perpetrated domestic violence statistically being more severe, but I question your presumption that its more frequent.

Let's introduce a death penalty for domestic abuse and solve those problems, then, yeah?

No. That'd introduce a whole new host of issues.

Like false-accusations leading to wrong people being killed, and diminished reporting in cases where actual abuse is taking place.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:54 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Let's introduce a death penalty for domestic abuse and solve those problems, then, yeah?

No. That'd introduce a whole new host of issues.

Like false-accusations leading to wrong people being killed, and diminished reporting in cases where actual abuse is taking place.


Pretty much this.
A major reason for underreporting is that abuse victims dont want their partners punished, they want them put through therapy.
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Postby The yoshin empire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:54 am

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:55 am

The yoshin empire wrote:
Divair wrote:
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wait ,Oh GOD , SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE !!!

What are you talking about?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:56 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:No. That'd introduce a whole new host of issues.

Like false-accusations leading to wrong people being killed, and diminished reporting in cases where actual abuse is taking place.


Pretty much this.
A major reason for underreporting is that abuse victims dont want their partners published, they want them put through therapy.

I need more sleep.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:56 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:No. That'd introduce a whole new host of issues.

Like false-accusations leading to wrong people being killed, and diminished reporting in cases where actual abuse is taking place.


Pretty much this.
A major reason for underreporting is that abuse victims dont want their partners punished, they want them put through therapy.

And the victims themselves may need therapy. It's not a simple issue.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:56 am

Farnhamia wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote: wait ,Oh GOD , SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE !!!

What are you talking about?


That probably translates to "don't listen to me, for I have not a single clue what is going on here" *nods*
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Postby The yoshin empire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:56 am

Farnhamia wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote: wait ,Oh GOD , SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE !!!

What are you talking about?

Ummmm , i misread the post .....

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Postby CTALNH » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:57 am

The yoshin empire wrote:
Divair wrote:

wait ,Oh GOD , SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE !!!

Image


Joking of course.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:57 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Pretty much this.
A major reason for underreporting is that abuse victims dont want their partners punished, they want them put through therapy.

And the victims themselves may need therapy. It's not a simple issue.


Yeh.
Were it up to me domestic abuse wouldn't necessarily be a crime unless there was serious injury, but a court order would be obtained upon a report being filed (Preferably this would be a semi-automatic process.) demanding both persons participate in therapy.
Failing to attend the therapy as the accused party would be the crime.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:58 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:No. That'd introduce a whole new host of issues.

Like false-accusations leading to wrong people being killed, and diminished reporting in cases where actual abuse is taking place.


I know, it was a failed joke in theme of the thread's stupidity.

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Postby The yoshin empire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:58 am

CTALNH wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote: wait ,Oh GOD , SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE !!!

Image


Joking of course.

Oops , :oops:

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Postby Nation of the Genuine Peoples » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:59 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Zottistan wrote:The concept of gender should become redundant.


Yes! Send your wiser-than-thou probes into the ears of all foolish humans to erase their trivialities!

I'm quite attached to my gender and I can't help but do a Sibirsky at the idea that the fanatical Year Zeroists who want to climb in and erase it from my head are "progressive". SAVE US SUPER MEGA ENLIGHTENED LOGIC CISJESUS.

Totally; I'm tired of not being able to wear long hair, because I'll look "gay", or that I have to get gender reassignment therapy if I want to look like a girl.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:00 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Yes, it is.

My main reason to defend the Republic is how it is dehumanizing and discriminatory against the people in royal families.

It's the only compelling reason I've found provided the monarch is purely symbolic, and it's a very compelling reason.

By it being symbolic, they can't just change the system if it is their wish.

But for why would I want to pass to society the idea that somehow for an entirely arbitrary reason perpetuated by just another fuck up of human society as an indirect consequence of the Neolithic (of the same kinds that created slavery, patriarchy or Abrahamic religions) my family is to be exposed in a de facto cage as symbol of some ridiculous backward power structure mostly phased out (and for our good) and imperialistic attitudes of the past about manifesting our group as a special given from Heaven in clear stark distinction to the other less mighty foreigners? And I have no choice but to accept it as it is?

I can't see how it would ever be argued to be beautiful or good.
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Postby Helkaria » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:02 am

Should the male gender be redundant?
.. why was this thread made..
It's in the mixssssss...

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:04 am

Helkaria wrote:Should the male gender be redundant?
.. why was this thread made..

Because this is NSG, where issues like this go to be beaten roundly with a lead pipe.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:05 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Helkaria wrote:Should the male gender be redundant?
.. why was this thread made..

Because this is NSG, where issues like this go to be beaten roundly with a lead pipe.

For some of us it's the only exercise we get.
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Postby The yoshin empire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:05 am

Helkaria wrote:Should the male gender be redundant?
.. why was this thread made..

My guess , flamebait.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:05 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It's the only compelling reason I've found provided the monarch is purely symbolic, and it's a very compelling reason.

By it being symbolic, they can't just change the system if it is their wish.

But for why would I want to pass to society the idea that somehow for an entirely arbitrary reason perpetuated by just another fuck up of human society as an indirect consequence of the Neolithic (of the same kinds that created slavery, patriarchy or Abrahamic religions) my family is to be exposed in a de facto cage as symbol of some ridiculous backward power structure mostly phased out (and for our good) and imperialistic attitudes of the past about manifesting our group as a special given from Heaven in clear stark distinction to the other less mighty foreigners? And I have no choice but to accept it as it is?

I can't see how it would ever be argued to be beautiful or good.

Don't worry your pretty little head. Just trust us, everything will be fine. :roll:
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:06 am

The yoshin empire wrote:
Helkaria wrote:Should the male gender be redundant?
.. why was this thread made..

My guess , flamebait.

If you think so, report it. It's been a fairly well-behaved thread, on the whole.
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:08 am

Farnhamia wrote:For some of us it's the only exercise we get.


Eckserwhat?

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Postby Person012345 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:08 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
Britanno wrote:No, although if men are only wanted on this Earth so the human race can continue, then we may as well kill ourselves and save others the hassle.

I would take serious issue with this. We'd have to start up a new program - Save the Males. Keep them in nice comfy rooms with full 'net/computer/sat/game access and all the food and drink they need (within reason - health is a concern, of course). We'd have whole preserves of them. Just imagine - room after room of men. Mmm.

*ahem*

No, no - not just for procreation. Like I said earlier, kinda like you guys. Let's keep y'all around.

I could get behind this.

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Postby The yoshin empire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:08 am

Farnhamia wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote:My guess , flamebait.

If you think so, report it. It's been a fairly well-behaved thread, on the whole.

True .

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:09 am

Person012345 wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:I would take serious issue with this. We'd have to start up a new program - Save the Males. Keep them in nice comfy rooms with full 'net/computer/sat/game access and all the food and drink they need (within reason - health is a concern, of course). We'd have whole preserves of them. Just imagine - room after room of men. Mmm.

*ahem*

No, no - not just for procreation. Like I said earlier, kinda like you guys. Let's keep y'all around.

I could get behind this.

Giggity.

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:09 am

Person012345 wrote:I could get behind this.


THIS? She's a WOMAN, you know?

Oh, wait...

EDIT: Dammit, TED
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