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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:44 am

Olthar wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Now, I do wonder, why do you indulge him.

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D'awwwwww!!! :hug:

That Wynaut picture just has that reaction on me for some reason :p
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Postby CTALNH » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:45 am

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What I shouldn't I ask?

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:46 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:At least we communists don't try to go and deny Stalin was one just because he messed up good (even among ourselves and against our sake). -.-

Of course people who support evil totalitarian ideologies will have a greater likelihood of supporting evil things even nowadays, if they think the means of wanting what they purpose are legit. Even if the smarter ones like you and a friend I once had are intelligent enough that, even if you all wanted it (what I don't believe you do; well, probably all are anti-semites or heterosexists to some degree or another - I don't think someone can be a full social liberal and a Nazi at the same time... -, but I don't think the hatred is in abnormal and unusual level for each one individually), it would be a horrible dumbfuckness just for propaganda reasons.


I've seen the "Neo Nazis" that run around saying Hitler was god and the holocaust never happened, etc. Hitler was an amazing leader, but had his downfalls and ultimately caused the deaths of millions of innocent Germans and the destruction of German society.

Since I'm a Technocrat/Fascist, I do support totalitarianism (which isn't "evil", but some people that take power may be "evil") through Meritocracy, which would probably lessen the chance of evil. Nazism is actually a broken ideology, because they allied with Muslims/Arabs against Jews, yet all three of those are Semitic groups. A true conservative wouldn't be "heterosexists", they would actually normalize homosexuality (atleast European conservatives). It depends on your definition of liberal. In Europe, Liberal social policy is actually Christianity and it's morals, and true Conservatives in Europe would support homosexuality, and all the things ancient civilization had that Christianity frowns upon.

I'm not sure if I responded correctly, you worded your post a bit weirdly.

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Postby Novo Portugal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:47 am

CTALNH wrote:
Olthar wrote:

I don't think you got the joke.


I think she did. It isn't that hard.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:49 am

New Laikland wrote:-snip-

Well, 2000 years of Christian history made the "liberal" as you put it (I don't think Christianity is liberal much less liberalizing, I think it replaced European cultures with one of the Middle Eastern ones, just that) the new "conservative" (native).
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:50 am

New Laikland wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:At least we communists don't try to go and deny Stalin was one just because he messed up good (even among ourselves and against our sake). -.-

Of course people who support evil totalitarian ideologies will have a greater likelihood of supporting evil things even nowadays, if they think the means of wanting what they purpose are legit. Even if the smarter ones like you and a friend I once had are intelligent enough that, even if you all wanted it (what I don't believe you do; well, probably all are anti-semites or heterosexists to some degree or another - I don't think someone can be a full social liberal and a Nazi at the same time... -, but I don't think the hatred is in abnormal and unusual level for each one individually), it would be a horrible dumbfuckness just for propaganda reasons.


I've seen the "Neo Nazis" that run around saying Hitler was god and the holocaust never happened, etc. Hitler was an amazing leader, but had his downfalls and ultimately caused the deaths of millions of innocent Germans and the destruction of German society.

Since I'm a Technocrat/Fascist, I do support totalitarianism (which isn't "evil", but some people that take power may be "evil") through Meritocracy, which would probably lessen the chance of evil. Nazism is actually a broken ideology, because they allied with Muslims/Arabs against Jews, yet all three of those are Semitic groups. A true conservative wouldn't be "heterosexists", they would actually normalize homosexuality (atleast European conservatives). It depends on your definition of liberal. In Europe, Liberal social policy is actually Christianity and it's morals, and true Conservatives in Europe would support homosexuality, and all the things ancient civilization had that Christianity frowns upon.

I'm not sure if I responded correctly, you worded your post a bit weirdly.


Sorry to kinda respond OT, but Meritocracism (Is that a word?) and Totalitarianism are both heavily flawed ideologies.

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Postby Irabaq » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:50 am

No.

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:52 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Well, 2000 years of Christian history made the "liberal" as you put it (I don't think Christianity is liberal much less liberalizing, I think it replaced European cultures with one of the Middle Eastern one, just that) the new conservative.


You can say that, but I'd hate to think that Europe's great history pre-Christianity is forgotten and thought of as a new idea; that would just cause a cycle of repeating history over and over.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:55 am

New Laikland wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Well, 2000 years of Christian history made the "liberal" as you put it (I don't think Christianity is liberal much less liberalizing, I think it replaced European cultures with one of the Middle Eastern one, just that) the new conservative.

You can say that, but I'd hate to think that Europe's great history pre-Christianity is forgotten and thought of as a new idea; that would just cause a cycle of repeating history over and over.

Well, sure even sexual orientation as a concept is descendant of the specific social constructs we were forced to have given the presence of an Abrahamic religion that is consistently [interpreted to be] anti-love and sex-negative.
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Postby The Shooting Star » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:56 am

How about no.
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Postby Social Republic of Carpathia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:58 am

My penis is a mighty organ and cannot be suppressed.

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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:58 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Olthar wrote:
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D'awwwwww!!! :hug:

That Wynaut picture just has that reaction on me for some reason :p

:hug:
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:59 am

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Postby Paixao » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:00 am

Well, if we carry out the OP's plan it would suck to be a straight female in 100 years' time...
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Postby Norstal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:00 am

Czechanada wrote:
Kumrann wrote:What why? its so pointless except for the fact that we COULD do it. Would it make the world a better place?


Yes, as illustrated in my OP.

But if your OP is true we should be making up ze final solution for black people, not just males.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:02 am

Social Republic of Carpathia wrote:My penis is a mighty organ and cannot be suppressed.

The Vagina can eat your tiny penis whole.

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:02 am

Redundant? What could possibly be redundant about those sometimes scruffy jawlines, those broader shoulders, firm chests and chassis that fill out them jeans rather nicely? The differences in thought, and approach. The varied viewpoints and reactions. The fart jokes. Sports enthusiasm. Mechanically-inclined hands, and all the fun that can go with that, including that oddly sexy workshop smell of metal, oil, and work. Facial hair. Other ... unmentionable bits.

Yes, yes, I know there is a lot more to men than some of this above, and I know it doesn't apply to all men, and I simply had to tease a bit on the physical emphasis because reasons. The fact that men don't all fit any particular mold is part of the point. I happen to adore men, and the fact that they come in so many delicious sizes, colors, and shapes. Even if they're not inclined towards the female gender, they're still fun to talk to, be friends with, and hell, look at. One can do that without drooling all over oneself or being a creep about it.

There's nothing redundant about any gender, combination thereof, etc. Tell you what though, if we end up nixing men, I'm outta here. Check please, no I won't be needing a doggy bag, thank you.


Give me men, or give me ...




Hrm. I dunno. Ice cream? Chocolate? Video games. Something.

(jk - you know I wubs you guys, especially that silly sod who married me.)

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:04 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Redundant? What could possibly be redundant about those sometimes scruffy jawlines, those broader shoulders, firm chests and chassis that fill out them jeans rather nicely? The differences in thought, and approach. The varied viewpoints and reactions. The fart jokes. Sports enthusiasm. Mechanically-inclined hands, and all the fun that can go with that, including that oddly sexy workshop smell of metal, oil, and work. Facial hair. Other ... unmentionable bits.

Yes, yes, I know there is a lot more to men than some of this above, and I know it doesn't apply to all men, and I simply had to tease a bit on the physical emphasis because reasons. The fact that men don't all fit any particular mold is part of the point. I happen to adore men, and the fact that they come in so many delicious sizes, colors, and shapes. Even if they're not inclined towards the female gender, they're still fun to talk to, be friends with, and hell, look at. One can do that without drooling all over oneself or being a creep about it.

There's nothing redundant about any gender, combination thereof, etc. Tell you what though, if we end up nixing men, I'm outta here. Check please, no I won't be needing a doggy bag, thank you.


Give me men, or give me ...




Hrm. I dunno. Ice cream? Chocolate? Video games. Something.

(jk - you know I wubs you guys, especially that silly sod who married me.)


...
You've...
You've done this before haven't you...
:p

Anyway, this is a pretty good reason why it isn't even in most womens interest.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:05 am

New Laikland wrote:
Social Republic of Carpathia wrote:My penis is a mighty organ and cannot be suppressed.

The Vagina can eat your tiny penis whole.

And vomit it out.

And eat it again.

And vomit it out.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:06 am

I just shed a tear from DLN's text. xD
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Postby Novo Portugal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:06 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Redundant? What could possibly be redundant about those sometimes scruffy jawlines, those broader shoulders, firm chests and chassis that fill out them jeans rather nicely? The differences in thought, and approach. The varied viewpoints and reactions. The fart jokes. Sports enthusiasm. Mechanically-inclined hands, and all the fun that can go with that, including that oddly sexy workshop smell of metal, oil, and work. Facial hair. Other ... unmentionable bits.

Yes, yes, I know there is a lot more to men than some of this above, and I know it doesn't apply to all men, and I simply had to tease a bit on the physical emphasis because reasons. The fact that men don't all fit any particular mold is part of the point. I happen to adore men, and the fact that they come in so many delicious sizes, colors, and shapes. Even if they're not inclined towards the female gender, they're still fun to talk to, be friends with, and hell, look at. One can do that without drooling all over oneself or being a creep about it.

There's nothing redundant about any gender, combination thereof, etc. Tell you what though, if we end up nixing men, I'm outta here. Check please, no I won't be needing a doggy bag, thank you.


Give me men, or give me ...




Hrm. I dunno. Ice cream? Chocolate? Video games. Something.

(jk - you know I wubs you guys, especially that silly sod who married me.)

Bravo! :clap: :clap:
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:06 am

Norstal wrote:And vomit it out.

And eat it again.

And vomit it out.


That's how manly vaginas are.

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Postby Novo Portugal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:09 am

New Laikland wrote:
Norstal wrote:And vomit it out.

And eat it again.

And vomit it out.


That's how manly vaginas are.


:rofl: this thread is just weird and awesome
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Postby United States of White America » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:09 am

Czechanada wrote:There has been a biological technology discovered where women could become pregnant without male fertilization through an egg only being fertilized with another x chromosome.

Given that males would no longer be necessary for reproduction, should society consider removing the male gender?

As I am myself male, I am cognizant of the fact that the male gender does have the inherent tendency of masculinity. The concept of masculinity has several problematic tendencies such as aggression and the disguising of emotion. This combined with the superior average strength of males has lead to a patriarchal society. This has lead to oppression of women, with men being statistically the primary perpetrators of crimes like domestic violence, and women suffer harassment in filling men's role. This isn't to say that all men act like this, and many males do try to alleviate this problem. However, we should attempt a preventative solution and try to stop this once and for all.

Since the primary purpose of sexual distinction between organisms is reproductions, and humans have superseded that purposes, sex is no longer a necessity. At the same time, humanity should focus on making society as best as possible. The female gender does not have these negative traits such as aggression, thus society would function better.

Should the male gender become redundant, NSG?


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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:09 am

United States of White America wrote:Fuck women.


Not all, let's just fuck the attractive ones.

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