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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:32 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Did you read the OP? The person who started the thread is male.


What are you implying? That males can't be radical feminists?

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Farnhamia wrote:Did you read the OP? The person who started the thread is male.


Are you saying that men can't be feminists ?

Yeah, I knew that didn't read right. Men can certainly be feminists. Czechananda, however, cites no sources for his idea and mentions feminist issues such as the denial of rights to women in a cursory manner. It's hardly a feminist idea to do this. Feminism is, in fact, quite the opposite of misandry.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:34 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
What are you implying? That males can't be radical feminists?

Shershah wrote:
Are you saying that men can't be feminists ?

Yeah, I knew that didn't read right. Men can certainly be feminists. Czechananda, however, cites no sources for his idea and mentions feminist issues such as the denial of rights to women in a cursory manner. It's hardly a feminist idea to do this. Feminism is, in fact, quite the opposite of misandry.


That's a matter of debate.
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Postby Themiclesia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:36 am

There is so much more to the male gender than simply the opposite of the female gender. Men do much more than just becoming husbands and fathers.

If the male gender is abolished, then what will the men be? They are not females because their chromosome structure is distinct.
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Postby Leanore » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:37 am

I swear, NSG is getting weirder and weirder. No, we should not do this. This is like genocide, but for males. Who would do all of the hard manual labor? Most women don't possess the muscles males have.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:39 am

Leanore wrote:I swear, NSG is getting weirder and weirder. No, we should not do this. This is like genocide, but for males. Who would do all of the hard manual labor? Most women don't possess the muscles males have.


Most males don't possess the muscles some women have.
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Postby Timothia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:42 am

I propose that all these chromosomes be kept in a laboratory locked in a screw-top jar, that way women will still need us to open the jar.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:43 am

I don't know how you get violence from masculinity at all. Nor is it from femininity. Nor is violence a bad thing, it's justified some of the time, but using it when not justified is a product of individual stupidity.

Having two genders (or, sexes, before I get attacked because gender is somehow mental) balances things out, so I doubt that getting rid of us will make our broken society better.

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Postby Ertae » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:47 am

No, absolutely not.

"...the female gender does not have these negative traits such as aggression..." Bull.
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Postby Union of Confederate Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:48 am

I like being male

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Postby Aurora Novus » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:55 am

Even if males become redundant for reprodution, I'm not seeing that as an argument for their removal from existance. We don't remove infertile people from existance. Sexual value is not the only value that exists.

So what, exactly, are you trying to say here? That women are intrinsically more valuable than men? Because unless that is your argument, I do not see a case for why we should value women over men.

And if that is your case, please, explain how you've quantified value to such a fine extent that you can determine the value of someone based on their sex.

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Postby Aurora Novus » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:57 am

Czechanada wrote:TThe female gender does not have these negative traits such as aggression, thus society would function better.


I'm sorry, what was that?

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:57 am

Verdum wrote:
Shershah wrote:Soon we are going to have agent samanthas running around (needed to somehow feminize "smith")

It was simply a joke. It was me summing up a lot of the stupid comments here and what they consist of.

Heh. For a Nazi you're quite smart and agreeable.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:58 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Heh. For a Nazi you're quite smart and agreeable.


What's that supposed to mean? I haven't met too many who aren't smart.

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Postby Shershah » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:00 am

Verdum wrote:
Shershah wrote:
Soon we are going to have agent samanthas running around (needed to somehow feminize "smith")

It was simply a joke. It was me summing up a lot of the stupid comments here and what they consist of.


I knew that. I wasn't being serious either :)

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Postby CTALNH » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:02 am

Olthar wrote:YES! LESBIAN UTOPIA AWAITS ME! I'M COMING!!!

Literally your cumming or figuratively?

What I shouldn't I ask?
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Postby Aurora Novus » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:03 am

Kaylea wrote:Yes, if consensually phased out. Women are healthier (stronger immune systems) and live longer.


Christ. First Sarkeesian criticizes Dixie Kong, and now the male genocide community rears it's head again. And people wonder why the word Feminism leaves such a bad taste in people's mouths.

I'm going to need you to explain some things to me.

1) Define "consensual" in this scenario.
2) Do you have any science to back up the claim that women's longer lifespan is due to their biology?
3) Why on earth would anyone want to live in such a darwinistic society, where your value is regulated to a purely reproductive one? That seems absolute;y regressive, not progressive.

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Postby Verdum » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:04 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Verdum wrote:It was simply a joke. It was me summing up a lot of the stupid comments here and what they consist of.

Heh. For a Nazi you're quite smart and agreeable.

...Thank you?

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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:07 am

CTALNH wrote:
Olthar wrote:YES! LESBIAN UTOPIA AWAITS ME! I'M COMING!!!

Literally your cumming or figuratively?

What I shouldn't I ask?

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Postby Jamjai » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:18 am

No

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:21 am

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Heh. For a Nazi you're quite smart and agreeable.

What's that supposed to mean? I haven't met too many who aren't smart.

Some are awesome, misunderstood (and all misunderstand the world) and good persons, others are the ones I want to have thousands of kilometers away from me. The latter ones tend to be dumb for obvious reasons. I can make a thread with evidence for the way I think, because here it would cause a shitstorm of a threadjack.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:26 am

Olthar wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Literally your cumming or figuratively?

What I shouldn't I ask?

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Now, I do wonder, why do you indulge him.
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:27 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Some are awesome, misunderstood (and all misunderstand the world) and good persons, others are the ones I want to have thousands of kilometers away from me. The latter ones tend to be dumb for obvious reasons. I can make a thread with evidence for the way I think, because here it would cause a shitstorm of a threadjack.

They hardly misunderstand the world at all, and the idiots like skinheads and whatnot aren't Nazis.

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Postby McNernia » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:32 am

Divair wrote:What is up with all your recent threads?

Yeah, your are crazy OP.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:34 am

New Laikland wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Some are awesome, misunderstood (and all misunderstand the world) and good persons, others are the ones I want to have thousands of kilometers away from me. The latter ones tend to be dumb for obvious reasons. I can make a thread with evidence for the way I think, because here it would cause a shitstorm of a threadjack.

They hardly misunderstand the world at all, and the idiots like skinheads and whatnot aren't Nazis.

At least we communists don't try to go and deny Stalin was one just because he messed up good (even among ourselves and against our sake). -.-

Of course people who support evil totalitarian ideologies will have a greater likelihood of supporting evil things even nowadays, if they think the means of wanting what they purpose are legit. Even if the smarter ones like you and a friend I once had are intelligent enough that, even if you all wanted it (what I don't believe you do; well, probably all are anti-semites or heterosexists to some degree or another - I don't think someone can be a full social liberal and a Nazi at the same time... -, but I don't think the hatred is in abnormal and unusual level for each one individually), it would be a horrible dumbfuckness just for propaganda reasons.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:36 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Olthar wrote:

Now, I do wonder, why do you indulge him.

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