Should the Male Gender Become Redundant?

[Ostroeuropa]

If you label yourself a feminist, you are a feminist. Whether or not it is considered by a majority of feminists is irrelevant. Much like how we mock the radical Christian who wants to have a new Crusade, or the racist Southernor.

Except sexist feminism (or even non-antissexist feminism) makes as sense as laissez-faire Marxism-Leninism?

Then stop identifying with them. It's not my fault you named your movement the Black Power movement and adopted people ranging from:

Anti-Racists all the way up to Wants All Non-Blacks Genocided.
That was your fuckup.

Oh the republican party isn't full of wackjobs. We're just the fiscal responsibility party. We aren't anti-gay.
Those tea partiers aren't REAL republicans.

Sure, our organization is totally corrupted by them and they are much louder than us, but they are straw-republicans.

[Hathradic States]

If you label yourself a feminist, you are a feminist. Whether or not it is considered by a majority of feminists is irrelevant. Much like how we mock the radical Christian who wants to have a new Crusade, or the racist Southernor.

Except sexist feminism (or even non-antissexist feminism) makes as sense as laissez-faire Marxism-Leninism?

That's why we don't call it sexist feminism. We call it Femextremism.

[The Truth and Light]

It's a funny story, that. Though I have no doubt there are those who labeled themselves Feminists that co-opted the idea, it's inconsequential who proposed it or how seriously it is actually proposed or considered in Feminist circles. It will be applied to your straw Feminist insofar as it suits your agenda.

If you label yourself a feminist, you are a feminist. Whether or not it is considered by a majority of feminists is irrelevant. Much like how we mock the radical Christian who wants to have a new Crusade, or the racist Southerner.

Hon, you can continue this sophistry or you can be honest, whichever you prefer. I'm speaking to the fact of the matter: destruction of the male sex is not a feminist goal. If you insist on tilting at windmills, by all means, direct your complaints to Kaylea or the OP. This feminist isn't in favor of masculicide and never was, and manages to carry on daily conversations with self-labeled radical feminists who toss out the idea.

You are literally chasing after a red herring. It's sort of hilarious.

[Hathradic States]

If you label yourself a feminist, you are a feminist. Whether or not it is considered by a majority of feminists is irrelevant. Much like how we mock the radical Christian who wants to have a new Crusade, or the racist Southerner.

Hon, you can continue this sophistry or you can be honest, whichever you prefer. I'm speaking to the fact of the matter: destruction of the male sex is not a feminist goal. If you insist on tilting at windmills, by all means, direct your complaints to Kaylea or the OP. This feminist isn't in favor of masculicide and never was, and manages to carry on daily conversations with self-labeled radical feminists who toss out the idea.

You are literally chasing after a red herring. It's sort of hilarious.

You seem to be denying that it exists within Feminism because you don't believe in it. I am pointing out that members of your little book club seem to be advocating it. Instead of denying that they are Real Feminists^TM, just admit that even your groups have their extreme members.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Polls consistently show that the majority of people who believe in equality of the sexes do NOT identify as feminist.

You see, I don't identify as a transfeminist or as a men's liberation activist even though my ideological convictions are very deeply consistent with the ones of those groups.

And I'm, much like you, who probably subscribe to the same characteristics in spite of our vast ideological differences, a transgender male!

[Ostroeuropa]

Hon, you can continue this sophistry or you can be honest, whichever you prefer. I'm speaking to the fact of the matter: destruction of the male sex is not a feminist goal. If you insist on tilting at windmills, by all means, direct your complaints to Kaylea or the OP. This feminist isn't in favor of masculicide and never was, and manages to carry on daily conversations with self-labeled radical feminists who toss out the idea.

You are literally chasing after a red herring. It's sort of hilarious.

You seem to be denying that it exists within Feminism because you don't believe in it. I am pointing out that members of your little book club seem to be advocating it. Instead of denying that they are Real Feminists^TM, just admit that even your groups have their extreme members.

They can't do that. They are a religion.
They have papal infallability. (Except all those fuckups in the past, like fucking over gays,lesbians,trans,ethnic minorities etc, but we've admitted those so why dont you like us. No, it's not a flip flop. It's us being nice now. No, we aren't wrong this time even though we used to be. We're infallible.)

[Hathradic States]

Except sexist feminism (or even non-antissexist feminism) makes as sense as laissez-faire Marxism-Leninism?

Then stop identifying with them. It's not my fault you named your movement the Black Power movement and adopted people ranging from:

Anti-Racists all the way up to Wants All Non-Blacks Genocided.
That was your fuckup.

Oh the republican party isn't full of wackjobs. We're just the fiscal responsibility party. We aren't anti-gay.
Those tea partiers aren't REAL republicans.

Sure, our organization is totally corrupted by them and they are much louder than us, but they are straw-republicans.

Aren't double standards a beautiful thing?

Having been a fascist before, I can tell you right now that there is no escape the Bad People in your group, so you might as well admit they are there, and that they have a voice.

[The Truth and Light]

Hon, you can continue this sophistry or you can be honest, whichever you prefer. I'm speaking to the fact of the matter: destruction of the male sex is not a feminist goal. If you insist on tilting at windmills, by all means, direct your complaints to Kaylea or the OP. This feminist isn't in favor of masculicide and never was, and manages to carry on daily conversations with self-labeled radical feminists who toss out the idea.

You are literally chasing after a red herring. It's sort of hilarious.

You seem to be denying that it exists within Feminism because you don't believe in it. I am pointing out that members of your little book club seem to be advocating it. Instead of denying that they are Real Feminists^TM, just admit that even your groups have their extreme members.

Or, you know, you could listen to the experiences of a male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis, and has a significantly greater collection of feminist literature than you, no doubt. Admit it, you want to complain about the "genocidal" strand of straw feminism because it's an easy target and takes zero effort to criticize.

You stay on those basics, Hath. They bring you such joy.

[Ostroeuropa]

You seem to be denying that it exists within Feminism because you don't believe in it. I am pointing out that members of your little book club seem to be advocating it. Instead of denying that they are Real Feminists^TM, just admit that even your groups have their extreme members.

Or, you know, you could listen to the experiences of a male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis, and has a significantly greater collection of feminist literature than you, no doubt. Admit it, you want to complain about the "genocidal" strand of straw feminism because it's an easy target and takes zero effort to criticize.

You stay on those basics, Hath. They bring you such joy.

Weaponized gender here, typical feminist tactic.
I thought you weren't a male. I guess you're only male when it's convenient for the argument.
I barely complain about the genocidal strain of feminism. Fact is, this thread is about it. So it's the place to complain.

I don't care how many copies of the quran you own. I know enough to know it's bullshit.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Having been a fascist before, I can tell you right now that there is no escape the Bad People in your group, so you might as well admit they are there, and that they have a voice.

In this case specifically, it's more like little me starts to identify as fascist and create a new ideology known as fabulous green fascism for freedom and don't change absolutely nothing of my current viewpoint creating an ideology full of anarchist/libertarian, communist/socialist/ultra-left-leaning, socially progressive, pacifist environmentalist naturalist multiculturalist hippie ideology that is not even coherent by any reasonable degree with fascism and Republicans start to denounce fascism as a pinko hippie immigrant-loving danger to the nation.

THIS is what you people with backlash are doing. Agreeing with the stupid position of ignorant Republicans who can't see fucking context and historical evolution.

[The Truth and Light]

I thought you weren't a male. I guess you're only male when it's convenient for the argument.

It's a funny story. Nazis on the forum started labeling me female because it made it easier to claim I was misandrist.

Bigender, yes. Still male-presenting in real life. Never claimed otherwise.

(Telling me I'm weaponizing gender then questioning my gender identity? New low for you.)

[Hathradic States]

You seem to be denying that it exists within Feminism because you don't believe in it. I am pointing out that members of your little book club seem to be advocating it. Instead of denying that they are Real Feminists^TM, just admit that even your groups have their extreme members.

Or, you know, you could listen to the experiences of a male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis, and has a significantly greater collection of feminist literature than you, no doubt. Admit it, you want to complain about the "genocidal" strand of straw feminism because it's an easy target and takes zero effort to criticize.

You stay on those basics, Hath. They bring you such joy.

You aren't the only male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis. Have you seen this site? Or, better yet, even been on a college campus? I already acknowledged that not every feminists thinks that way, just like how not every fascist wants to kill the Jews. That doesn't stop the more radical elements from being destroyed, now does it?

[Ostroeuropa]

I thought you weren't a male. I guess you're only male when it's convenient for the argument.

It's a funny story. Nazis on the forum started labeling me female because it made it easier to claim I was misandrist.

Bigender, yes. Still male-presenting in real life. Never claimed otherwise.

(Telling me I'm weaponizing gender then questioning my gender identity? New low for you.)

I was under the impression you didn't identify as a male, if that's not the case then i retract my statement.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

I don't care how many copies of the quran you own. I know enough to know it's bullshit.

Speaking of fascism, look folks, anti-intellectualism at its finest1

[Hathradic States]

I thought you weren't a male. I guess you're only male when it's convenient for the argument.

It's a funny story. Nazis on the forum started labeling me female because it made it easier to claim I was misandrist.

Bigender, yes. Still male-presenting in real life. Never claimed otherwise.

(Telling me I'm weaponizing gender then questioning my gender identity? New low for you.)

We have, what, three Nazis at the most?

[Morlodania]

*Tagged*

[The Truth and Light]

It's a funny story. Nazis on the forum started labeling me female because it made it easier to claim I was misandrist.

Bigender, yes. Still male-presenting in real life. Never claimed otherwise.

(Telling me I'm weaponizing gender then questioning my gender identity? New low for you.)

I was under the impression you didn't identify as a male, if that's not the case then i retract my statement.

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

[Morlodania]

I was under the impression you didn't identify as a male, if that's not the case then i retract my statement.

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

I agree.
Words cannot be taken back.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

It's a funny story. Nazis on the forum started labeling me female because it made it easier to claim I was misandrist.

Bigender, yes. Still male-presenting in real life. Never claimed otherwise.

(Telling me I'm weaponizing gender then questioning my gender identity? New low for you.)

I was under the impression you didn't identify as a male, if that's not the case then i retract my statement.

Most genderqueers on this site are bigender.

Demigenders and agenders like me and you are rarer.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Or, you know, you could listen to the experiences of a male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis, and has a significantly greater collection of feminist literature than you, no doubt. Admit it, you want to complain about the "genocidal" strand of straw feminism because it's an easy target and takes zero effort to criticize.

You stay on those basics, Hath. They bring you such joy.

Weaponized gender here, typical feminist tactic.
I thought you weren't a male. I guess you're only male when it's convenient for the argument.
I barely complain about the genocidal strain of feminism. Fact is, this thread is about it. So it's the place to complain.

I don't care how many copies of the quran you own. I know enough to know it's bullshit.

Well, I am a male, as you may well know Ostro.

The problem of your discussion is that you begin to say "feminism" is bad because they "hate men".

Au contraire, I deal with women who are feminists, hell, my entire History class was full of them (most of the women in my History class as a whole were taking gender issues as a minor).

Many of them didn't think getting rid of men was a good idea, but most of them did want to know how female perceptions across cultures actually changed form being inferior to being equal.

I used to make sex-charged jokes and they laughed at it because they were funny during class, and they were also relevant to the lectures, further, they knew my views, and they never were crying "MRA!" because of my balanced stance on gender issues.

Now, that there is a small minority of women and men who spouse those ideas? Definitely, however, I think Kylea was arguing a Devil's Advocate stand, as she has made more coherent posts in her past, looking at her post history.

[Ostroeuropa]

I was under the impression you didn't identify as a male, if that's not the case then i retract my statement.

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

I've seen you people consistently weaponize gender.
I also knew you were transgendered of some variety and sexually male.
It was entirely reasonable for me to connect those two together when you suddenly started identifying as male and using it as part of your argument.
If i'm mistaken about your identity, so be it.

Regardless of whether you changed your identity for the sake of the argument (I could be mistaken) you absolutely did weaponize gender.

[Morlodania]

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

I've seen you people consistently weaponize gender.
I also knew you were transgendered of some variety and sexually male.
It was entirely reasonable for me to connect those two together when you suddenly started identifying as male and using it as part of your argument.
If i'm mistaken about your identity, so be it.

Regardless of whether you changed your identity for the sake of the argument (I could be mistaken) you absolutely did weaponize gender.

I saw no gender weaponization.
God, that would be terrifying in reality...

[Ostroeuropa]

I've seen you people consistently weaponize gender.
I also knew you were transgendered of some variety and sexually male.
It was entirely reasonable for me to connect those two together when you suddenly started identifying as male and using it as part of your argument.
If i'm mistaken about your identity, so be it.

Regardless of whether you changed your identity for the sake of the argument (I could be mistaken) you absolutely did weaponize gender.

I saw no gender weaponization.
God, that would be terrifying in reality...

you could listen to the experiences of a male who deals with a lot of feminists on a daily basis

There. Implying that we should take him seriously because of his gender.

[Hathradic States]

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

I've seen you people consistently weaponize gender.
I also knew you were transgendered of some variety and sexually male.
It was entirely reasonable for me to connect those two together when you suddenly started identifying as male and using it as part of your argument.
If i'm mistaken about your identity, so be it.

Regardless of whether you changed your identity for the sake of the argument (I could be mistaken) you absolutely did weaponize gender.

Using an insane amount of Insane Troll Logic, we can always claim that they only pretend not to hate men when talking with his Truthness, but are plotting his assassination at a Feminazi rally.

Also, that post was satire. Take the Joke and laugh.

[The Truth and Light]

You can admit you were lying/being intentionally malicious, but you can never retract a statement.

I've seen you people consistently weaponize gender.
I also knew you were transgendered of some variety and sexually male.
It was entirely reasonable for me to connect those two together when you suddenly started identifying as male and using it as part of your argument.
If i'm mistaken about your identity, so be it.

Regardless of whether you changed your identity for the sake of the argument (I could be mistaken) you absolutely did weaponize your gender.

This is the most entertaining post I have seen in a hot minute.

"You people"
"Transgendered"
"started identifying as male"
"if i'm mistaken about your identity"

I can no longer approach you as a poster who opposes bigotry. Nah. Miss me with your pervy gender policing and your stereotyping of transgender citizens. Miss me with your prejudice, and miss me with your bigotry. Your claims to support equality are not worth their weight in piss.