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Is this a good Idea?

Yes.
65
35%
No.
79
43%
Yes, but it would never stick.
5
3%
No, and it would never stick.
12
6%
PAPIST!
24
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Total votes : 185

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The Emerald Dawn
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:45 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Lost heros wrote:You realize she's talking about pr0n, right?


That was the joke's implications and you just ruined a good followup, methinks :p

Anti-joke chicken.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:46 pm

Auralia wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure they can.

No they can't.

This may blow your mind, but sometimes, one of the people in a gay relationship has a penis, and the other has a vagina. Now, I'm sure you agree that it would be a gross invasion of privacy to go about examining people's genitals before letting them get married, I guess you'll have to let gay couples marry in your little imaginary world.


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Because your a child and fascinated with anal sex, since you think it's "icky".


Olthar wrote:

There are men with vaginas and women with penises.

I've got video evidence of this, too. XD

Olthar is some kind of video evidence wizard.

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Auralia
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Postby Auralia » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:46 pm

Jormengand wrote:
Auralia wrote:You have your definition, I have mine. It doesn't really change the substance of the argument, which is that gay couples cannot engage in an act of sexual intercourse that involves the insertion of a penis into a vagina.

Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Olthar wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
What don't you have video of? :lol2: :hug:

Iron Man 3.


It's a good movie. I recommend having a copy of it :p

Anyways, topic's not about movies.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.

Is that the actual definition of marriage or are you just making those requirements up?
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Lost heros » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.

Having kids should be a prerequisite for marriage because?
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.


Wrong.

Otherwise, infetile and old people wouldn't be allowed to marry.

Because, y'know, they can't reproduce.
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The Crosspoint Realm
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Postby The Crosspoint Realm » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Yes let's let the gays marry each other [sarcasm]. Well, at least "gay marriage" is more possible as "gay sex". Marriage is not intended for two guys or girls. Marriage is a HOLY COVENANT made by ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!!! By "marrying" your friend of same gender is a disgrace. It is retarded to think about it. But, that shows were people are today. Stupid.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Olthar wrote:Iron Man 3.


It's a good movie. I recommend having a copy of it :p

Anyways, topic's not about movies.

I don't have money. D:
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

The Crosspoint Realm wrote:Yes let's let the gays marry each other [sarcasm]. Well, at least "gay marriage" is more possible as "gay sex". Marriage is not intended for two guys or girls. Marriage is a HOLY COVENANT made by ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!!! By "marrying" your friend of same gender is a disgrace. It is retarded to think about it. But, that shows were people are today. Stupid.

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Postby Auralia » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:This may blow your mind, but sometimes, one of the people in a gay relationship has a penis, and the other has a vagina.


Are you referring to gay couples where one of the persons is transgender?
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Postby Othelos » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.

The Bible doesn't require a "natural ordering towards childbearing" or reproduction in marriage.
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Postby Auralia » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:49 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Auralia wrote:An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.


Wrong.

Otherwise, infetile and old people wouldn't be allowed to marry.

Because, y'know, they can't reproduce.


They cannot reproduce, but they can still engage in coitus, which remains naturally ordered towards reproduction.
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Postby Auralia » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:49 pm

Othelos wrote:
Auralia wrote:An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.

The Bible doesn't require a "natural ordering towards childbearing" or reproduction in marriage.

So what?
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Postby Dazchan » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:49 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.


Dazchan wrote:
So a man who works in a pickle factory and lost his junk in a freak accident can't marry his girlfriend?
If you can read this, thank your teachers.

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:50 pm

Auralia wrote:
Jormengand wrote:Remind us why this matters?

An integral part of marriage is bodily union, or the coordination of the spouses' bodies through coitus for a common biological purpose: reproduction.


No it isn't. Stop making shit up.

If I was to marry the girl I actually want, I would never make her go through a pregnancy or to reproduce with me in a natural way, she fucking can't because she has epilepsy and if she gets pregnant the child won't survive because of the meds, and if we take the meds out she can die from an epileptic attack.

Therefore, the whole "having sex for procreation" bit is just bullshit you are making up.
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Postby Luxew » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:50 pm

The Crosspoint Realm wrote:Yes let's let the gays marry each other [sarcasm]. Well, at least "gay marriage" is more possible as "gay sex". Marriage is not intended for two guys or girls. Marriage is a HOLY COVENANT made by ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!!! By "marrying" your friend of same gender is a disgrace. It is retarded to think about it. But, that shows were people are today. Stupid.


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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:51 pm

The Crosspoint Realm wrote:Yes let's let the gays marry each other [sarcasm]. Well, at least "gay marriage" is more possible as "gay sex". Marriage is not intended for two guys or girls. Marriage is a HOLY COVENANT made by ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!!! By "marrying" your friend of same gender is a disgrace. It is retarded to think about it. But, that shows were people are today. Stupid.


Yeah, because if two people genuinely love each other, it would be a disgrace to allow them to legally express it.

And no, it's not a holy covenant. And even if it was, screw that. We live in a secular nation, religious arguments are completely invalid.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:51 pm

Olthar wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
It's a good movie. I recommend having a copy of it :p

Anyways, topic's not about movies.

I don't have money. D:

That sucks! D:
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:51 pm

Auralia wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Wrong.

Otherwise, infetile and old people wouldn't be allowed to marry.

Because, y'know, they can't reproduce.


They cannot reproduce, but they can still engage in coitus, which remains naturally ordered towards reproduction.

But they can't reproduce, so it doesn't matter

So are they not allowed to marry?
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Postby The Tundra » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Auralia wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Wrong.

Otherwise, infetile and old people wouldn't be allowed to marry.

Because, y'know, they can't reproduce.


They cannot reproduce, but they can still engage in coitus, which remains naturally ordered towards reproduction.

cotious is not a prerqusate to marriage. love is. if two people love one another, then let them get fucking married.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Olthar wrote:There are men with vaginas and women with penises.

I've got video evidence of this, too. XD

Olthar is some kind of video evidence wizard.

That's video evidence sorceress. Wizards are bearded old dudes.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Auralia wrote:
Othelos wrote:The Bible doesn't require a "natural ordering towards childbearing" or reproduction in marriage.

So what?

That's what I will say.

So what?

Why should a couple be biologically required to reproduce?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm

The Crosspoint Realm wrote:Yes let's let the gays marry each other [sarcasm]. Well, at least "gay marriage" is more possible as "gay sex". Marriage is not intended for two guys or girls. Marriage is a HOLY COVENANT made by ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!!! By "marrying" your friend of same gender is a disgrace. It is retarded to think about it. But, that shows were people are today. Stupid.


Sorry, you just lost all credibility from the start.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Postby Auralia » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Dazchan wrote:
Auralia wrote:That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.


So a man who works in a pickle factory and lost his junk in a freak accident can't marry his girlfriend?


Yes. As I said earlier, impotence is grounds for annulment of a marriage.
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