Gay Civil Union Discussion

[Auralia]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

[Ifreann]

Fucking is fun. That's why it's usually done and is the sole reason why it will be happening when fertility is literally impossible. Sex is not naturally ordered towards childbearing, especially when it is naturally impossible.

Coitus remains naturally ordered towards childbearing even when either or both spouses are infertile. This is easily demonstrated by the fact that a single conjugal act does not necessarily result in procreation, even when both spouses are fertile.

Except that natural ordering doesn't exist and you made it up.

[Oneracon]

Now by the title, I don't mean slavery. I just had an idea a few days ago that may or may not be considered offensive by some of you. And hence this thread was made.

I was in class and we were talking about how when a homosexual goes to the hospital, their partner is a actually not considered a family member, rather as a stranger, and is not permitted. I investigated about other things that marriage does to benefit straight couples, and it obviously turns out - a lot.

So, to keep all the Republicans and the Church happy, could there not be an alternative to marriage? Like a legal bonding that says that these people are together, they are permitted to adopt a child, live under the same roof, treated as a family member, etc, etc. But rather than it be blessed by a judge or priest, it would merely be a document stating all the aforementioned rights by their attorney (Although treated with just the same respect as any marital commitment.)

So what do you thing, NSG? Could this work? Would it not? Has this been suggested? Am I blue?

As a young lesbian, I would love to have this with my GF, so when we're adults, we could actually care for each other on the political level.

Or just go all the way and have equal rights and accept none of these "separate but equal" excuses. You shouldn't be forced to compromise by accepting that you are lesser.

[Auralia]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

[Pandeeria]

Fucking is fun. That's why it's usually done and is the sole reason why it will be happening when fertility is literally impossible. Sex is not naturally ordered towards childbearing, especially when it is naturally impossible.

Coitus remains naturally ordered towards childbearing even when either or both spouses are infertile. This is easily demonstrated by the fact that a single conjugal act does not necessarily result in procreation, even when both spouses are fertile.

A good analogy is a baseball team. A baseball team is naturally ordered towards winning baseball games, even if they never actually win a baseball game.

Who gives 0.02 fucks if two people are biologically able to have children?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, I guess I'll go read about honorable forms of suicide then, just in case I ever do lose my member in a tragic accident. *nods*

No, not honorable form of suicide. Their is nothing honorable about a Traditional Manly Man^TM without his junk, not even his death.

You just destroyed the last sense of dignity I could have out of this! D:

[Ifreann]

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

You'd be surprised.

[Lost heros]

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

Last I checked, coitus means sexual intercourse. Gays can engage in that too.

[Caecuser]

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

I don't hear many of them complaining though.

That's because it is irrelevant.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

I don't think coitus means what you think it means.

[Jormengand]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

True. However, what is and what should be are two different things.

And annulment is stupid anyway. Trying to retcon reality? Really?

[Neutraligon]

Fucking is fun. That's why it's usually done and is the sole reason why it will be happening when fertility is literally impossible. Sex is not naturally ordered towards childbearing, especially when it is naturally impossible.

Coitus remains naturally ordered towards childbearing even when either or both spouses are infertile. This is easily demonstrated by the fact that a single conjugal act does not necessarily result in procreation, even when both spouses are fertile.

A good analogy is a baseball team. A baseball team is naturally ordered towards winning baseball games, even if they never actually win a baseball game.

That is a really bad analogy, especially since some baseball teams are geared towards other goals, like teaching teamwork and preventing ids from being on the street after school. Again how can something that will never produce a child be geared towards children, especially when the act is not always, done for the purpose of children. Also, you are ignoring the fact that homosexuals can have kids and or adopt.

[Oneracon]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

Why risk that?

Mandatory fertility tests before we grant marriage licenses.

[Auralia]

Coitus remains naturally ordered towards childbearing even when either or both spouses are infertile. This is easily demonstrated by the fact that a single conjugal act does not necessarily result in procreation, even when both spouses are fertile.

Except that natural ordering doesn't exist and you made it up.

Of course it exists. Certain acts are designed (whether by man, God, or evolution) to result in certain outcomes.

[Ifreann]

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

Last I checked, coitus means sexual intercourse. Gays can engage in that too.

And will with gusto, given the opportunity.

[Lost heros]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

Even if they are madly in love? Why do you discriminate against those who literally can't produce children?

[Luxew]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

What? The makes utterly no sense, as everyone else is saying. I'm not trying to convince you, but people who want to get married but lack sexual organs or fertility have and should the right to marry.

[Auralia]

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

Last I checked, coitus means sexual intercourse. Gays can engage in that too.

Coitus means vaginal intercourse.

[Olthar]

Gay people can fuck, too.

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

Sure they can.

[Neutraligon]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

But does not prevent them from marrying in the first place. They are legaly married, and not having sex does not mean their marriage is automatically annulled.

[Auralia]

They can't engage in coitus with one another.

Sure they can.

No they can't.

[Blasveck]

Except that natural ordering doesn't exist and you made it up.

Of course it exists. Certain acts are designed (whether by man, God, or evolution) to result in certain outcomes.

One of those outcomes is gay people.
Adopting Children.

Gay Uncle Theory.

[Hundermenschen]

Why do these threads remind me of two men having butt sex? owo

[Dazchan]

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

That's true. Failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment.

So a man who works in a pickle factory and lost his junk in a freak accident can't marry his girlfriend?

[Luxew]

Why do these threads remind me of two men having butt sex? owo

Because since someone can't take the facts, it is.