Gay Civil Union Discussion

[Soldati Senza Confini]

But what if I don't have a penis? D: What if something happens that I might lose it?

Oh, no problem. As a Traditional Manly Man^TM, you'll just kill yourself, anyway, because life without a penis is life not worth living. *nods*

Well, I guess I'll go read about honorable forms of suicide then, just in case I ever do lose my member in a tragic accident. *nods*

[Oneracon]

I'm not homophobic. I have gay friends and a boyfriend, I just support abandoning the outdated idea of quote]traditionalunquote marriage. Critique is best articulated from the privileged perspective

You should stop with the small text. It's rather annoying.

If you insist.

[Threlizdun]

You... do realize that post-menopausal women and women with certain disabilities CANNOT bear children right?

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Fucking is fun. That's why it's usually done and is the sole reason why it will be happening when fertility is literally impossible. Sex is not naturally ordered towards childbearing, especially when it is naturally impossible.

[Auralia]

So all difference feminists are sexists?

What do think of the idea of a child raised by his father and uncle, with his/her grandmother as a maternal figure?

I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

[Olthar]

You... do realize that post-menopausal women and women with certain disabilities CANNOT bear children right?

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Gay people can fuck, too.

[Neutraligon]

You... do realize that post-menopausal women and women with certain disabilities CANNOT bear children right?

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Homosexuals can also engage in conjugal acts. Also, sex is not always or even often about having children. Also, even if that were not the case, if a child cannot result from the act how is it ordered towards childbearing? You still haven't explained that phrase by the way.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Sex without procreation is a sin.

Why do you love sin?

Because it's fun, I expect.

Hypocrisy, on MY NSG?

It's more likely than you think.

[Pandeeria]

What do think of the idea of a child raised by his father and uncle, with his/her grandmother as a maternal figure?

I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

No, not really.

[Lost heros]

You... do realize that post-menopausal women and women with certain disabilities CANNOT bear children right?

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

So ability to have sex is now a requirement for marriage? I'll go tell all the men and women whom lack sexual organs, that they can't get married.

[Neutraligon]

What do think of the idea of a child raised by his father and uncle, with his/her grandmother as a maternal figure?

I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

Really, so what about abusive households, or households where the child is the caretaker?

[Caecuser]

What do think of the idea of a child raised by his father and uncle, with his/her grandmother as a maternal figure?

I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

You've completely made that up.

[Olthar]

Oh, no problem. As a Traditional Manly Man^TM, you'll just kill yourself, anyway, because life without a penis is life not worth living. *nods*

Well, I guess I'll go read about honorable forms of suicide then, just in case I ever do lose my member in a tragic accident. *nods*

God speed, brave soldier. *salutes*

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You... do realize that post-menopausal women and women with certain disabilities CANNOT bear children right?

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

I hope that, if you marry or have a spouse, she doesn't have epilepsy, because she is in danger with someone like you.

[The Tundra]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

How is it "Naturally ordered" towards something of which it is incapable?

homosexuality is natural in many animals. including humans.

i'm actually shocked at his ignorance, and how well engranded his world views are that no-one can seem to detrench them.

[Neutraligon]

Aurelia, ever heard of asexuals? By the way, marriage is legal even if the couple never has sex.

[Shaggai]

I clearly did not. I've heard these arguments before by homophobes, and they sounded legit.

I'm not homophobic. I have gay friends and a boyfriend, I just support abandoning the outdated idea of quote]traditionalunquote marriage. Critique is best articulated from the privileged perspective

Argumentum ad black friends is a logical fallacy.

I was going to write that, until I saw the size 1 text.

How the hell do you fit that much text in those spaces? Even at size 1?

[Olthar]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Gay people can fuck, too.

I've even got video evidence to back up my claim. *nods*

[Lost heros]

Oh, no problem. As a Traditional Manly Man^TM, you'll just kill yourself, anyway, because life without a penis is life not worth living. *nods*

Well, I guess I'll go read about honorable forms of suicide then, just in case I ever do lose my member in a tragic accident. *nods*

No, not honorable form of suicide. Their is nothing honorable about a Traditional Manly Man^TM without his junk, not even his death.

[Ifreann]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Gay people can fuck, too.

I hear some of them are good at it.

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I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

Really, so what about abusive households, or households where the child is the caretaker?

We'll have to shun them, lest we normalise non-traditional family structures. Make them live under a bridge or in the sewer.

[Jormengand]

How is it "Naturally ordered" towards something of which it is incapable?

homosexuality is natural in many animals. including humans.

i'm actually shocked at his ignorance, and how well engranded his world views are that no-one can seem to detrench them.

Hmm. As well as the fact that the computer he's using to post from isn't "Natural," so he should stop posting. He should then remove all his clothes and leave the town.

Scientists reckon Antarctica is the most natural place left on Earth...

[Blasveck]

What do think of the idea of a child raised by his father and uncle, with his/her grandmother as a maternal figure?

I think it would be difficult for the grandmother to play as significant a role in his or her grandchild's life as that child's own mother could, because of her age, the nature of their relationship, the fact that they probably aren't living together, etc.

Ultimately, children are best off when raised by their mother and father.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parent ... ight-ones/

Still bullshit.

[Oneracon]

I'm not homophobic. I have gay friends and a boyfriend, I just support abandoning the outdated idea of quote]traditionalunquote marriage. Critique is best articulated from the privileged perspective

Argumentum ad black friends is a logical fallacy.

I was going to write that, until I saw the size 1 text.

How the hell do you fit that much text in those spaces? Even at size 1?

Because it seems that Size 1 is essentially this forum's code for "invisible".

Apologies for any confusion.

[Auralia]

Yes. That doesn't mean that they cannot engage in the conjugal act, which is naturally ordered towards childbearing regardless of the fertility status of either spouse.

Fucking is fun. That's why it's usually done and is the sole reason why it will be happening when fertility is literally impossible. Sex is not naturally ordered towards childbearing, especially when it is naturally impossible.

Coitus remains naturally ordered towards childbearing even when either or both spouses are infertile. This is easily demonstrated by the fact that a single conjugal act does not necessarily result in procreation, even when both spouses are fertile.

A good analogy is a baseball team. A baseball team is naturally ordered towards winning baseball games, even if they never actually win a baseball game.

[Federal Female Asian States]

Now by the title, I don't mean slavery. I just had an idea a few days ago that may or may not be considered offensive by some of you. And hence this thread was made.

I was in class and we were talking about how when a homosexual goes to the hospital, their partner is a actually not considered a family member, rather as a stranger, and is not permitted. I investigated about other things that marriage does to benefit straight couples, and it obviously turns out - a lot.

So, to keep all the Republicans and the Church happy, could there not be an alternative to marriage? Like a legal bonding that says that these people are together, they are permitted to adopt a child, live under the same roof, treated as a family member, etc, etc. But rather than it be blessed by a judge or priest, it would merely be a document stating all the aforementioned rights by their attorney (Although treated with just the same respect as any marital commitment.)

So what do you thing, NSG? Could this work? Would it not? Has this been suggested? Am I blue?

As a young lesbian, I would love to have this with my GF, so when we're adults, we could actually care for each other on the political level.

[Jormengand]

I'm not homophobic. I have gay friends and a boyfriend, I just support abandoning the outdated idea of quote]traditionalunquote marriage. Critique is best articulated from the privileged perspective

Argumentum ad black friends is a logical fallacy.

I was going to write that, until I saw the size 1 text.

How the hell do you fit that much text in those spaces? Even at size 1?

I'm not sure NS even bothers calculating the length of size 1 text.