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Should gender-neutral bathrooms be mandated?

Yes for private business and government buildings
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32%
Yes only for government buildings, not private business
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10%
No, not even for government buildings
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Total votes : 695

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Postby Condunum » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:32 pm

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Are you saying that your ego is your penis?

I'm not saying it isn't.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:33 pm

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Olthar wrote:Are you saying that your ego is your penis?

I'm not saying it isn't.

Well. Now I understand why you always seema so modest. :p
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:35 pm

Condunum wrote:
Olthar wrote:Are you saying that your ego is your penis?

I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm really trying not to say certain, not kosher things right now, so instead I'll ask something more on topic.

What is your ego's feelings towards gender neutral bathrooms?
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Postby Condunum » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:38 pm

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Condunum wrote:I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm really trying not to say certain, not kosher things right now, so instead I'll ask something more on topic.

What is your ego's feelings towards gender neutral bathrooms?

Let me use the bathroom I want to use, dammit.

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Well. Now I understand why you always seema so modest. :p

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Postby Katyuscha » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:14 pm

This would just end up making restroom trips awkward and unpleasant. Not to mention the fact that it's very inefficient.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:22 pm

Katyuscha wrote:This would just end up making restroom trips awkward and unpleasant. Not to mention the fact that it's very inefficient.

So, exactly as awkward and unpleasant as they presently are now?
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Postby Katyuscha » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:24 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:This would just end up making restroom trips awkward and unpleasant. Not to mention the fact that it's very inefficient.

So, exactly as awkward and unpleasant as they presently are now?

Sort of, but times five.
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Postby Faikliren » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:28 pm

I have nothing against transgenders, but implementing such a thing seams a bit outrageous. I suggest that they use the restroom for the sex they claim to be at the moment. Restrooms are already somewhat awkward, this is just adding to it.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:10 am

Katyuscha wrote:
Furious Grandmothers wrote:So, exactly as awkward and unpleasant as they presently are now?

Sort of, but times five.


Faikliren wrote:I have nothing against transgenders, but implementing such a thing seams a bit outrageous. I suggest that they use the restroom for the sex they claim to be at the moment. Restrooms are already somewhat awkward, this is just adding to it.


Restrooms are only awkward when you decide to be a jerk and go poke your nose into other people's business. If you're using them like a normal person would, there would be no awkwardness at all. Just you, your privacy and your biological byproducts.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:26 am

Furious Grandmothers wrote:Restrooms are only awkward when you decide to be a jerk and go poke your nose into other people's business. If you're using them like a normal person would, there would be no awkwardness at all. Just you, your privacy and your biological byproducts.


Unless your one of the many people who are terrified of using public bathrooms.
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Postby Luveria » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:28 am

Faikliren wrote:I have nothing against transgenders, but implementing such a thing seams a bit outrageous. I suggest that they use the restroom for the sex they claim to be at the moment. Restrooms are already somewhat awkward, this is just adding to it.


Sex isn't gender.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:50 am

Olthar wrote:
Condunum wrote:My ego only grows as fast as the blood flows

Are you saying that your ego is your penis?

I cannot deny nor confirm that Condy's massive ego is directly proportional to their massive penis.
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Postby Magna Libero » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:55 am

I can think of toilets with only one room and only one toilet to be gender-neutral. Although, this might not be good for bigger restrooms, just imagine females glooming on males peeing on a urinal, while they wait for their turn to pee in a toilet.
And no, I don't think a third/fourth kind of toilet should be required in any buildings in a country. It should be totally voluntary.

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Postby Allentyr » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:01 am

Olthar wrote:Actually, ladies' restrooms tend to be messier because many women don't actually sit on the toilet and just hover over it, spraying shit everywhere.


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Postby Nevanmaa » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:03 am

If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".
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Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".


Why do we need seperate bathrooms?
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Postby Lost heros » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:09 am

Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".

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Postby Liriena » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:09 am

Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".

So, what you are saying is that this lady here
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should be arbitrarily forced to go to the men's restroom?
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Postby Nevanmaa » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:11 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".


Why do we need seperate bathrooms?

1) Safety: It's much more safer for women to have separate bathrooms. Less chance of rape and so on.
2) Privacy: Quite simple, really. Men should have privacy to do their thing and the same with women. Quite a few people would find unisex bathrooms uncomfortable for this reason
3) Organization: Men's bathrooms tend to have more urinals and only a couple of stalls, while women's bathrooms only have stalls. You'd have to have both in an unisex bathroom, and women tend to take longer to use the bathroom anyway. It'd just be a huge mess.
4) Tradition: Not everyone has to be changed because the Political Correctness Police says so. World has enough degeneracy already.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:12 am

Liriena wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".

So, what you are saying is that this lady here
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should be arbitrarily forced to go to the men's restroom?

If he has a penis, then yes, absolutely.

A man shouldn't really look like that though. Fifty years ago dressing like that would've been out of the question.
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Lost heros
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Postby Lost heros » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Why do we need seperate bathrooms?

1) Safety: It's much more safer for women to have separate bathrooms. Less chance of rape and so on.
2) Privacy: Quite simple, really. Men should have privacy to do their thing and the same with women. Quite a few people would find unisex bathrooms uncomfortable for this reason
3) Organization: Men's bathrooms tend to have more urinals and only a couple of stalls, while women's bathrooms only have stalls. You'd have to have both in an unisex bathroom, and women tend to take longer to use the bathroom anyway. It'd just be a huge mess.
4) Tradition: Not everyone has to be changed because the Political Correctness Police says so. World has enough degeneracy already.

1) Bullshit. If you were going to rape someone, how would a separate gendered bathroom stop you.
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Postby Lost heros » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Liriena wrote:So, what you are saying is that this lady here
Image

should be arbitrarily forced to go to the men's restroom?

If he has a penis, then yes, absolutely.

A man shouldn't really look like that though. Fifty years ago dressing like that would've been out of the question.

A man isn't dressing like that. A woman is dressing like that.
Gender =/= sex.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Nevanmaa wrote:1) Safety: It's much more safer for women to have separate bathrooms. Less chance of rape and so on.
2) Privacy: Quite simple, really. Men should have privacy to do their thing and the same with women. Quite a few people would find unisex bathrooms uncomfortable for this reason
3) Organization: Men's bathrooms tend to have more urinals and only a couple of stalls, while women's bathrooms only have stalls. You'd have to have both in an unisex bathroom, and women tend to take longer to use the bathroom anyway. It'd just be a huge mess.
4) Tradition: Not everyone has to be changed because the Political Correctness Police says so. World has enough degeneracy already.


1. Presumes the only thing keeping men from raping women is the fact their in an adjacent room.
4. Not everything is sacred, the world has enough institutionalized pointlessness as it is.
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Postby Luveria » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:14 am

Liriena wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:If you are a man (have a penis and XY chromosomes), you use the male bathroom. If you are a woman (have a vagina and XX chrosome), you use the female bathroom. Very, very simple. There is no need for politically correct bullshit like "gender-neutral bathrooms".

So, what you are saying is that this lady here
Image

should be arbitrarily forced to go to the men's restroom?


Along with this lady too.

Image


Nevanmaa wrote:
Liriena wrote:So, what you are saying is that this lady here

should be arbitrarily forced to go to the men's restroom?

If he has a penis, then yes, absolutely.

A man shouldn't really look like that though. Fifty years ago dressing like that would've been out of the question.


Men who can look like however they want to, but that's irrelevant because the lady Liri posted is a female.

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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:15 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Why do we need seperate bathrooms?

1) Safety: It's much more safer for women to have separate bathrooms. Less chance of rape and so on.
2) Privacy: Quite simple, really. Men should have privacy to do their thing and the same with women. Quite a few people would find unisex bathrooms uncomfortable for this reason
3) Organization: Men's bathrooms tend to have more urinals and only a couple of stalls, while women's bathrooms only have stalls. You'd have to have both in an unisex bathroom, and women tend to take longer to use the bathroom anyway. It'd just be a huge mess.
4) Tradition: Not everyone has to be changed because the Political Correctness Police says so. World has enough degeneracy already.



1) Safety: This isn't the case. Rapists aren't going to obey gender segregation bathroom signs. In addition, by halving the number of people who go in and out of the room you cut in half the number of people capable of interrupting the act.

2) Privacy: How is your privacy violated any differently if its someone of the opposite sex compared to someone of the same sex? What about the person being the opposite sex violates your privacy, where if they were the same sex it wouldnt?

3) Organization: Currently queues can form for the bathroom before we reach 100% capacity, it's possible for there to be a queue at a mere 50% capacity. By desegregating we eliminate this problem. Organization is firmly on the side of desegregation.

4) Tradition: Tradition is not in itself an argument, and is a logical fallacy.
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