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Should gender-neutral bathrooms be mandated?

Yes for private business and government buildings
222
32%
Yes only for government buildings, not private business
69
10%
No, not even for government buildings
404
58%
 
Total votes : 695

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Neuereland
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Postby Neuereland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:43 pm

I think people are avoiding the point here, what are the purposes of separate sex bathrooms? The purpose of course is so that people can feel comfortable doing naked stuff, and for some reason, people when they do naked stuff don't like it when people with other genitalia are with them when they do aforementioned naked stuff. The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.
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Seriong
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Postby Seriong » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:48 pm

males are on average less sanitary than females

Can we not do this?

Also, I don't think it should be mandated, that's silly and too much intervention. Should they be included, sure, but mandating, no.
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Postby Seriong » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:50 pm

Neuereland wrote:I think people are avoiding the point here, what are the purposes of separate sex bathrooms? The purpose of course is so that people can feel comfortable doing naked stuff, and for some reason, people when they do naked stuff don't like it when people with other genitalia are with them when they do aforementioned naked stuff. The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.

Except that's wrong. The general public sees them as crazy cross dressers, and wants them no where near them.
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The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:50 pm

Neuereland wrote:The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.

So, what you're basically saying is that this person right here
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should be forced by law, even if she is legally recognized as a woman, to use only the washrooms designated for men?
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Lost heros
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Postby Lost heros » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:51 pm

Neuereland wrote:I think people are avoiding the point here, what are the purposes of separate sex bathrooms? The purpose of course is so that people can feel comfortable doing naked stuff, and for some reason, people when they do naked stuff don't like it when people with other genitalia are with them when they do aforementioned naked stuff. The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.

You are naked in the bathroom? That's weird.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:53 pm

Lost heros wrote:
Neuereland wrote:I think people are avoiding the point here, what are the purposes of separate sex bathrooms? The purpose of course is so that people can feel comfortable doing naked stuff, and for some reason, people when they do naked stuff don't like it when people with other genitalia are with them when they do aforementioned naked stuff. The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.

You are naked in the bathroom? That's weird.

I love walking around naked in public bathrooms and showing my ass off to all my fellow guys... but the thought of some girl dressed up as a guy checking my junk out hurts my manfeels.
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Conservative Conservationists
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Postby Conservative Conservationists » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:58 pm

why do things need to be mandated? Let the businesses put it in place if there is actually a public demand.

There are enough laws as it is.

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Vitaphone Racing
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:04 pm

Liriena wrote:
Neuereland wrote:The general public identifies trans-sexual people by their original sex, so in the interest of the comfort of the majority, trans-sexuals should not be using the "other" washrooms and should be using the washroom of the born sex so most people can be happy.

So, what you're basically saying is that this person right here
Image

should be forced by law, even if she is legally recognized as a woman, to use only the washrooms designated for men?

That's disgusting. The person behind the camera took the photo without bothering to tell her that her strap had fallen down and her top was unbuttoned. Some people...
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Olthar
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:07 pm

Liriena wrote:

Hot. :3
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:08 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:

Hot. :3

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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:09 pm

Seriong wrote:
males are on average less sanitary than females

Can we not do this?

Also, I don't think it should be mandated, that's silly and too much intervention. Should they be included, sure, but mandating, no.

Yeah unisex bath rooms would likely be used as an excuse for the sit why you pee types to take hold in the US.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:10 pm

Liriena wrote:
Olthar wrote:Hot. :3

Olthar, the love of my life.
Love of my life, the Penis Queen. :3

:p
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:10 pm

Condunum wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:It can happen but will most likely take a long time or get set on fire?

NERVUN, look, she got it. Seeeee, this is what I meant. Yay bad humor...

And this is totally not at all a lame sarcastic "I don't care what you say fuck y'all I do my own thing" retort.

Not at all. Nope.

Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.

Liriena wrote:
Lost heros wrote:You are naked in the bathroom? That's weird.

I love walking around naked in public bathrooms and showing my ass off to all my fellow guys... but the thought of some girl dressed up as a guy checking my junk out hurts my manfeels.

I think I may have hurt your man feels then :P
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Olthar wrote:
Liriena wrote:Olthar, the love of my life.
Love of my life, the Penis Queen. :3

:p

I could send you hawter pics. ;3
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:NERVUN, look, she got it. Seeeee, this is what I meant. Yay bad humor...

And this is totally not at all a lame sarcastic "I don't care what you say fuck y'all I do my own thing" retort.

Not at all. Nope.

Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.

Liriena wrote:I love walking around naked in public bathrooms and showing my ass off to all my fellow guys... but the thought of some girl dressed up as a guy checking my junk out hurts my manfeels.

I think I may have hurt your man feels then :P

YOU SLUT! :p
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:12 pm

Liriena wrote:
Olthar wrote: :p

I could send you hawter pics. ;3

:D
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.


I think I may have hurt your man feels then :P

YOU SLUT! :p

SLUT-SHAMING ALERT! FEMINIST BRIGADE: GO!!
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Postby Seriong » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:14 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:NERVUN, look, she got it. Seeeee, this is what I meant. Yay bad humor...

And this is totally not at all a lame sarcastic "I don't care what you say fuck y'all I do my own thing" retort.

Not at all. Nope.

Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.


Be careful, one day you'll go too far, and be cut too many times, and you yourself will become edgy. It's a terrible virus, a friend of mine became so edgy he became a circle, it was horrible.
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Lunalia wrote:
The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

Murkwood wrote:As a trans MtF Bi Pansexual Transautistic CAMAB Demiplatonic Asensual Better-Abled Planetkin Singlet Afro-Centric Vegan Socialist Therian, I'm immune from criticism.

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:16 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Liriena wrote:YOU SLUT! :p

SLUT-SHAMING ALERT! FEMINIST BRIGADE: GO!!


But I thought it was a good thing...
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Postby Conservative Conservationists » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:31 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:SLUT-SHAMING ALERT! FEMINIST BRIGADE: GO!!


But I thought it was a good thing...


Depends on who you ask. I quite like sluts :p

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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:34 pm

Seriong wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.


Be careful, one day you'll go too far, and be cut too many times, and you yourself will become edgy. It's a terrible virus, a friend of mine became so edgy he became a circle, it was horrible.

Tragic. I fear I'm already being infected.

Conservative Conservationists wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
But I thought it was a good thing...


Depends on who you ask. I quite like sluts :p

It depends on context too, y'know?
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Postby Condunum » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:06 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:NERVUN, look, she got it. Seeeee, this is what I meant. Yay bad humor...

And this is totally not at all a lame sarcastic "I don't care what you say fuck y'all I do my own thing" retort.

Not at all. Nope.

Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.

My edges grow sharper by the minute.
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Postby Rocopurr » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:10 pm

Condunum wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Sometimes I cut myself on your edge.

My edges grow sharper by the minute.

Holy shit. Your edges grow even faster than your ego.
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Postby Condunum » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:24 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:My edges grow sharper by the minute.

Holy shit. Your edges grow even faster than your ego.

My ego only grows as fast as the blood flows
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:26 pm

Condunum wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Holy shit. Your edges grow even faster than your ego.

My ego only grows as fast as the blood flows

Are you saying that your ego is your penis?
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