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Should gender-neutral bathrooms be mandated?

Yes for private business and government buildings
222
32%
Yes only for government buildings, not private business
69
10%
No, not even for government buildings
404
58%
 
Total votes : 695

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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:54 pm

YahRite wrote:
Condunum wrote:"the mother of a 17-year-old girl complained"

The mother of a child and the teacher are the only two people who complained, and the teacher apologized when she realized Coleen is transgender. Class A++ failure on your part.


lol. i provide an example of some pervert exposing himself/herself to girls and you just dismiss it. i understand. you don't have a problem with people exposing themselves. you can call me a failure if you want but people should really be concerned about you.

That "pervert" was undressing in a locker room. They were using it for what it was intended for.
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Postby YahRite » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:55 pm

itt: sick fucks.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:57 pm

YahRite wrote:itt: sick fucks.


ITT: people who resort to flaming when they've been proven wrong, instead of being intellectually honest and admitting to having been wrong.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:58 pm

YahRite wrote:itt: sick fucks.

A person using a locker room for the sole purpose it was designed for is a sick fuck?
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:58 pm

YahRite wrote:itt: sick fucks.

If this makes me a sick fuck, then I'm proud to be one.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:59 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
YahRite wrote:itt: sick fucks.

A person using a locker room for the sole purpose it was designed for is a sick fuck?

Well, there is a sauna in it. So I wouldn't say sole purpose. Correct purposes, yes.
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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:59 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:Don't make it awkward, then?


Easier said then done.

Condunum wrote:If a group of men came into the bathroom when I was in the bathroom, I wouldn't feel awkward. Unless they acted shady. Then i would.


That is another problem with mixed washrooms.

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Men and women washroom provide for the same needs but they are not compatible. Urinals for one.

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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Don't make it awkward, then?


Easier said then done.

Condunum wrote:If a group of men came into the bathroom when I was in the bathroom, I wouldn't feel awkward. Unless they acted shady. Then i would.


That is another problem with mixed washrooms.

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Men and women washroom provide for the same needs but they are not compatible. Urinals for one.

Urinals exist for the sole purpose of speeding up bathroom usage. They are not a requirement. Also, female (by this I mean non-penis owning humans) urinals exist.
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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:02 pm

Condunum wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Easier said then done.



That is another problem with mixed washrooms.

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Men and women washroom provide for the same needs but they are not compatible. Urinals for one.

Urinals exist for the sole purpose of speeding up bathroom usage. They are not a requirement.


Neither is a toilet, we can make do with a hole on the floor. Yes?

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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:03 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Don't make it awkward, then?


Easier said then done.

Condunum wrote:If a group of men came into the bathroom when I was in the bathroom, I wouldn't feel awkward. Unless they acted shady. Then i would.


That is another problem with mixed washrooms.
There is nothing bad that can happen in unisex washrooms that won't happen in segregated ones.

Men and women washroom provide for the same needs but they are not compatible. Urinals for one.
Where does everyone get this idea that urinals can't exist? Just have 1/4 urinals and 3/4 stalls but a larger room, then it will just be like two combined rooms, which honestly would be the easiest way to make them
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:03 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Condunum wrote:Urinals exist for the sole purpose of speeding up bathroom usage. They are not a requirement.


Neither is a toilet, we can make do with a hole on the floor. Yes?

A toilet is a hole in the floor.

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Postby Saiwania » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:04 pm

Condunum wrote:Urinals exist for the sole purpose of speeding up bathroom usage. They are not a requirement.


Urinals use less water than a regular toilet, so I'm sure it cuts down on the utility bills of penny pinchers everywhere.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:05 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Condunum wrote:Urinals exist for the sole purpose of speeding up bathroom usage. They are not a requirement.


Neither is a toilet, we can make do with a hole on the floor. Yes?

Reductio ad absurdum is a logical fallacy, and not a proper argument.
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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:17 pm

Condunum wrote:Reductio ad absurdum is a logical fallacy, and not a proper argument.


Lets move into your point about females having urinals then, do you know how it works?

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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:19 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Condunum wrote:Reductio ad absurdum is a logical fallacy, and not a proper argument.


Lets move into your point about females having urinals then, do you know how it works?

The urinal is somewhat extended, it works much the same way as a urinal intended for a penis.
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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:20 pm

Condunum wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Lets move into your point about females having urinals then, do you know how it works?

The urinal is somewhat extended, it works much the same way as a urinal intended for a penis.


Yes but do you know how a female will have to go about using it?

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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:25 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Condunum wrote:The urinal is somewhat extended, it works much the same way as a urinal intended for a penis.


Yes but do you know how a female will have to go about using it?

...Pull down your pants and piss? I mean yeah, the fact that they don't have a convenient tube is a bit of an impediment and means the pants go down further, but so?
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Postby YahRite » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:26 pm

Grenartia wrote:
YahRite wrote:itt: sick fucks.


ITT: people who resort to flaming when they've been proven wrong, instead of being intellectually honest and admitting to having been wrong.


wrong about.. ? i made a claim, and then i provided evidence. it's not good enough for some people, and that's fine. as for flaming, is it flaming to call people what they are? exposing yourself to people is pretty gross. you don't seem to have a problem with that.

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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:29 pm

YahRite wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
ITT: people who resort to flaming when they've been proven wrong, instead of being intellectually honest and admitting to having been wrong.


wrong about.. ? i made a claim, and then i provided evidence. it's not good enough for some people, and that's fine. as for flaming, is it flaming to call people what they are? exposing yourself to people is pretty gross. you don't seem to have a problem with that.

Your "evidence" was a blogger finding an article about a transgender person using the facilities of a locker room as was intended. One of the mothers complained. The teacher complained. The teacher realized this woman is transgender and was only using the facilities as intended, and nothing came of it. If you can't accept that your own source is showing the lives of transgendered people slowly getting better, then well... sucks to suck.
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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:32 pm

Condunum wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Yes but do you know how a female will have to go about using it?

...Pull down your pants and piss? I mean yeah, the fact that they don't have a convenient tube is a bit of an impediment and means the pants go down further, but so?


Does sense of privacy mean nothing to you? :palm:

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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:34 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Condunum wrote:...Pull down your pants and piss? I mean yeah, the fact that they don't have a convenient tube is a bit of an impediment and means the pants go down further, but so?


Does sense of privacy mean nothing to you? :palm:

So, it's okay for a guy to use a urinal... But god forbid one of those walking vaginas decide they want to piss standing up.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:34 pm

Condunum wrote:...Pull down your pants and piss? I mean yeah, the fact that they don't have a convenient tube is a bit of an impediment and means the pants go down further, but so?


There is now thanks to a product called GoGirl, don't take life sitting down. Only 12.99!
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:35 pm

YahRite wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
ITT: people who resort to flaming when they've been proven wrong, instead of being intellectually honest and admitting to having been wrong.


1. wrong about.. ? i made a claim, and then i provided evidence. it's not good enough for some people, and that's fine. 2. as for flaming, is it flaming to call people what they are? 3. exposing yourself to people is pretty gross. 4. you don't seem to have a problem with that.


1. Your claim. We refuted your claim, and cast doubt on your "evidence".

2. Its flaming to insult people. Which is what you did.

3. Except she didn't expose herself anymore than anybody else that uses a locker room does.

4. Because she didn't expose herself. She used the facilities for their INTENDED PURPOSE. That's NOT illegal or wrong, by any reasonable and objective definition of the terms.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:36 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Condunum wrote:...Pull down your pants and piss? I mean yeah, the fact that they don't have a convenient tube is a bit of an impediment and means the pants go down further, but so?


There is now thanks to a product called GoGirl, don't take life sitting down. Only 12.99!

Eugh, I saw an ad for one of those... Then I looked it up. According to the reviews, it's a terrible device that results in piss soaked legs.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:37 pm

Condunum wrote:Eugh, I saw an ad for one of those... Then I looked it up. According to the reviews, it's a terrible device that results in piss soaked legs.


How do the competitors fare? Was only using the first example that came up.
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