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Nintendo taking youtubers profit. (Also Youtubes contentid)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:21 pm
by Graknopia
A number of YouTube members report that Nintendo is issuing "Content ID Match" copyright claims en masse for videos featuring gameplay from its published titles.

The move appears to target the "Let's Play" community, in particular. Let's Play series authors often produce full video walkthroughs of featured games, with voiced or subtitled commentary accompanying gameplay.

When a "Content ID Match" is claimed for a YouTube clip, the claimant is given the right to place an advertisement at the beginning or the end of the video. Content ID Matches differ from DMCA takedown notices or outright video removals, in that matched videos remain viewable by the public and do not count as a copyright strike against their producers. All revenue earned from views, however, will go to the content's copyright owner, rather than the video uploader. The act is common for publishers like Activision, Electronic Arts, and Square Enix, but it's only recently that Nintendo has joined in the practice.

Multiple affected authors have come forward on Reddit to confirm Nintendo's new policy. To date, Nintendo's Content ID Matching spree seems to focus on recent releases like Super Mario 3D Land, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, and New Super Mario Bros. U. Currently, Let's Play videos for older Nintendo-published games are unaffected.

Nintendo explains its position in a statement issued to GameFront: "As part of our on-going push to ensure Nintendo content is shared across social media channels in an appropriate and safe way, we became a YouTube partner and as such in February 2013 we registered our copyright content in the YouTube database.

http://m.joystiq.com/2013/05/16/nintend ... ay-videos/
What do you think? The story is rather old but im sure it applies today.. Not just with games but with for example, music videos.

Personally I think its perfectly fine for a company to claim profit off of a game or ad that they produced. (Although it may not be the best marketng strategy) After all, they never did gve permission to the uploader to use that footage.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:23 pm
by The Serbian Empire
I am not shocked given the rules of copyrights.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:45 pm
by Cetacea
Sounds totally legit to me, the video uploader gets to publush their 'fan' work and the company gets to advertise...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:48 pm
by Ainin
I don't see the problem with this.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:54 pm
by Gallup
Nothing wrong with this.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:56 pm
by Dremono
What the rest of the people said. ^^^ ;)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:59 pm
by Charmicarmicat
I don't think I've ever seen one with sufficient creative input to merit payment.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:00 pm
by Mewtinigrad
Charmicarmicat wrote:I don't think I've ever seen one with sufficient creative input to merit payment.

^^^

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:01 pm
by Southern Babylonia
Nothing all that terrible here.

But I have to say, LPs are great advertisement on their own. Certainly worked wonders on me.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:01 pm
by Scomagia
Yeah, I don't see any trouble here. Nintendo gets to benefit from their copyright, youtubers get to post their videos. Win win.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:04 pm
by San
This is from six months ago. The situation has been somewhat resolved, iirc
Scomagia wrote:Yeah, I don't see any trouble here. Nintendo gets to benefit from their copyright, youtubers get to post their videos. Win win.
except that there are content producers who make youtube videos for a living; many of whom were affected by this.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:05 pm
by Risottia
The Serbian Empire wrote:I am not shocked given the rules of copyrights.

Me neither. People should learn about the laws.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:06 pm
by Condunum
...But why? Nintendo already makes exorbitant profits from their products, what reason do they have for being greedy f-Oh, right. They're greedy fucks.

Good on Nintendo for playing the dirty game the way it's set up, but fuck you Nintendo for being amoral cuntbiscuits.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:06 pm
by Christmahanikwanzikah
San wrote:This is from six months ago. The situation has been somewhat resolved, iirc
Scomagia wrote:Yeah, I don't see any trouble here. Nintendo gets to benefit from their copyright, youtubers get to post their videos. Win win.
except that there are content producers who make youtube videos for a living; many of whom were affected by this.


Then maybe they shouldn't post a video of the entire playthrough and pretend like they're applying the Fair Use statute.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:11 pm
by Lordieth
They're already advertising Nintendo by playing the game. Call it what you like, but this is nothing more than corporate greed, and given Nintendo's recent profits, I can certainly see why they're doing it.

Sega have been at it for some time. Never thought Nintendo would stoop that low.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:12 pm
by San
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
San wrote:This is from six months ago. The situation has been somewhat resolved, iirc
except that there are content producers who make youtube videos for a living; many of whom were affected by this.


Then maybe they shouldn't post a video of the entire playthrough and pretend like they're applying the Fair Use statute.

If you disagree with lets plays, take it up with the LPers and the game devs who allow - and hell, even endorse - lets playing their content, not me.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:13 pm
by Charmicarmicat
Condunum wrote:...But why? Nintendo already makes exorbitant profits from their products, what reason do they have for being greedy f-Oh, right. They're greedy fucks.

Good on Nintendo for playing the dirty game the way it's set up, but fuck you Nintendo for being amoral cuntbiscuits.

"Those greedy fucks that want the money people make by uploading videos of games they made"
San wrote:except that there are content producers who make youtube videos for a living; many of whom were affected by this.

Why don't they spend their time acquiring skills for employment rather than shrieking like retards over video games they had no involvement in then.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:13 pm
by Graknopia
Lordieth wrote:They're already advertising Nintendo by playing the game. Call it what you like, but this is nothing more than corporate greed, and given Nintendo's recent profits, I can certainly see why they're doing it.

Sega have been at it for some time. Never thought Nintendo would stoop that low.

The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:14 pm
by Condunum
Charmicarmicat wrote:
Condunum wrote:...But why? Nintendo already makes exorbitant profits from their products, what reason do they have for being greedy f-Oh, right. They're greedy fucks.

Good on Nintendo for playing the dirty game the way it's set up, but fuck you Nintendo for being amoral cuntbiscuits.

"Those greedy fucks that want the money people make by uploading videos of games they made"

Yes, exactly. I realize that you're trying to use reductio ad absurdum, but that pretty much spells out where Nintendo is going wrong.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:15 pm
by Condunum
Graknopia wrote:
Lordieth wrote:They're already advertising Nintendo by playing the game. Call it what you like, but this is nothing more than corporate greed, and given Nintendo's recent profits, I can certainly see why they're doing it.

Sega have been at it for some time. Never thought Nintendo would stoop that low.

The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

No, it's literally all about the money. Corporations do this all the time. If there is any legal path they can use to take profits and make it theirs, they'll do it and you'll be damn sure they'll make sure it happens until they won't see a positive gain.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:17 pm
by Mapleleafia
Graknopia wrote:
Lordieth wrote:They're already advertising Nintendo by playing the game. Call it what you like, but this is nothing more than corporate greed, and given Nintendo's recent profits, I can certainly see why they're doing it.

Sega have been at it for some time. Never thought Nintendo would stoop that low.

The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

This.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:17 pm
by Forsakia
Condunum wrote:
Graknopia wrote:The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

No, it's literally all about the money. Corporations do this all the time. If there is any legal path they can use to take profits and make it theirs, they'll do it and you'll be damn sure they'll make sure it happens until they won't see a positive gain.


Corporations are about money shock?

So what?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:17 pm
by Charmicarmicat
Condunum wrote:
Graknopia wrote:The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

No, it's literally all about the money. Corporations do this all the time. If there is any legal path they can use to take profits and make it theirs, they'll do it and you'll be damn sure they'll make sure it happens until they won't see a positive gain.

This is good though, pretty much everyone who makes a living off these things doesn't deserve it. Unfortunately they also tend to focus more on steam games but hopefully they won't be able to profit off that eventually either.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:18 pm
by Christmahanikwanzikah
San wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Then maybe they shouldn't post a video of the entire playthrough and pretend like they're applying the Fair Use statute.

If you disagree with lets plays, take it up with the LPers and the game devs who allow - and hell, even endorse - lets playing their content, not me.


I don't disagree with LPs. I disagree with people who think they can justify making money off of content they provided a narration track to.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:19 pm
by Graknopia
Condunum wrote:
Graknopia wrote:The thing is though that some people just watch playthroughs with no intent of buying the game. This is why (I assume) Nintendo did this.

No, it's literally all about the money. Corporations do this all the time. If there is any legal path they can use to take profits and make it theirs, they'll do it and you'll be damn sure they'll make sure it happens until they won't see a positive gain.

Of course it is. But the people uploading the game did not get permission. What im tryng to ask you is if you think it is understandable that Nintendo takes profits from these ads that may or may not depict the game in the way they want it to