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Gay Weddings Legalized in....wait, Vietnam?
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:32 amby Blasveck
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/societ ... etnam.htmlIn 2012, two weddings of a gay and a lesbian couple were held in the southern provinces of Kien Giang and Ca Mau.
The local authorities intervened and imposed a fine on them, given that the weddings were "contrary to the habits and customs of Vietnam" and the Law on Marriage & Family of Vietnam, which bans marriage between persons of the same sex
However, according to Decree No. 110/2013/ND-CP which took effect on November 12, marriage between people of the same sex has been rejected from the banned cases of marriage. It means that the organization of wedding parties between people of the same sex (without marriage registration) will not be illegal any more and they will not have to pay fine.
The gay couples will have the right to live together and organize weddings.
So, yeah, apparently gay weddings are now legal in Vietnam.
Note that this is not legal marriage. Not yet, I'm sure.
What say ye, NSG?
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:35 amby Divair
I didn't see that coming. Congrats Vietnam.
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:36 amby MYAWESOMENESS
wow didn't see that comin
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 amby Gaelic Celtia
Hm. Rather unexpected. Good to hear though, nonetheless.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 amby Gauthier
Divair wrote:I didn't see
that coming. Congrats Vietnam.
And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.
After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 amby Mollary
Well, it doesn't go quite far enough, but for a one party state; not bad.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:38 amby Gaelic Celtia
Gauthier wrote:Divair wrote:I didn't see
that coming. Congrats Vietnam.
And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.
After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.
I was actually just thinking that as well....
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 amby Belburg
Vietnam what are you doing
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 amby Arglorand
Progress even where progress is generally rare.
Nice.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:40 amby Gigaverse
What did I just see. The impossible happened.
Huh. Better check the State Television more often.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:40 amby Verdum
Imagine me falling on my knees in the middle of a lecture after reading this and saying "...No."
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:41 amby Gaelic Celtia
Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing
Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:43 amby The Carlisle
So now the US is behind Vietnam when it comes to Legalizing same sex marriage.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:44 amby Lost heros
Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:44 amby Gigaverse
Gaelic Celtia wrote:Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing
Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.
"Dark Ages" can be hard hitting, you know.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 amby Ellettsville First Methodist Church
Not another godless bootyism communist country legalizing a basic human right, how dare they acknowledge civil rights
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 amby Aekrim
The Carlisle wrote:So now the US is behind Vietnam when it comes to Legalizing same sex marriage.
This....is..humilating....for.....Murica?
Good job Vietnam. Even you, made it
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 amby Blasveck
Lost heros wrote:Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...
That is indeed the case, as far as I can tell.
Though probably not for long.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:47 amby Gigaverse
Blasveck wrote:Lost heros wrote:Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...
That is indeed the case, as far as I can tell.
Though probably not for long.
On behalf of the local youth and community:
YES, INDEED.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:48 amby Belburg
Gaelic Celtia wrote:Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing
Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.
How is it a progress?
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:49 amby Hurdegaryp
Gauthier wrote:Divair wrote:I didn't see
that coming. Congrats Vietnam.
And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.
After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.
Well, Soviet communism taught us that homosexuality was something that only occurred in the decadent capitalistic world. Apparently it had something to do with bourgeois perversions and the corrupting influences of the higher class. However, it's more likely the Soviets, just as their fellow capitalistic/religious homophobes just pulled it out of their collective arses. The abstract concept of morality makes people say the stupidest things.
But to return to the original subject, it must be said that I'm pleasantly surprised with this development in Vietnam.
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:49 amby Tekania
Blasveck wrote:http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/89082/same-sex-weddings-officially-permitted-in-vietnam.html
In 2012, two weddings of a gay and a lesbian couple were held in the southern provinces of Kien Giang and Ca Mau.
The local authorities intervened and imposed a fine on them, given that the weddings were "contrary to the habits and customs of Vietnam" and the Law on Marriage & Family of Vietnam, which bans marriage between persons of the same sex
However, according to Decree No. 110/2013/ND-CP which took effect on November 12, marriage between people of the same sex has been rejected from the banned cases of marriage. It means that the organization of wedding parties between people of the same sex (without marriage registration) will not be illegal any more and they will not have to pay fine.
The gay couples will have the right to live together and organize weddings.
So, yeah, apparently gay weddings are now legal in Vietnam.
Note that this is not legal marriage. Not yet, I'm sure.
What say ye, NSG?
While, I suppose it's progress in Vietnam, simply not fining people for holding same-sex ceremonies without any legal benefit is hardly "being legalized"....
Congrats Vietnam.... you're now up to par with the most die-hard anti-SSM US states.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:51 amby Hurdegaryp
Belburg wrote:Gaelic Celtia wrote:Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.
How is it a progress?
Civil rights. You know, those things you guys had a lot less of back when the Baltic region was firmly embraced by the loving arms of the Soviet Union.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:51 amby Ursymnia
I am happy, surprised and confused. wut.
Posted:
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:52 amby Belburg
Hurdegaryp wrote:Belburg wrote:How is it a progress?
Civil rights. You know, those things you guys had a lot less of back when the Baltic region was firmly embraced by the loving arms of the Soviet Union.
I don't mind if people are gay or bi or whatever they are today but I am against same sex marriage.