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Postby GWACA » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:57 pm

A dagger is a weapon and made to be used as a weapon it primarily for stabbing but also has (relatively) blunt cutting edges it is for killing mainly men.

A knife is a tool and made to be used as tool it is primarily for cutting but also has a (relatively) weak stabbing point it is for use as a utility tool and it's applications a too numerable to list.
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:57 pm

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Na, more like the instant you say anything against the LGBT, you suddenly become evil incarnate in the eyes of the sympathizers. Sort of like the issue with feminism

Are you joking? Im in another thread where an anti-gay group qould love to fund this. I dont see any research concluding that it is a mental disease


"in the eyes of the sympathizers" my kind sir.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:58 pm

Hey, Vietnam is more advanced than Texas! Who knew?

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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:59 pm

GWACA wrote:A dagger is a weapon and made to be used as a weapon it primarily for stabbing but also has (relatively) blunt cutting edges it is for killing mainly men.

A knife is a tool and made to be used as tool it is primarily for cutting but also has a (relatively) weak stabbing point it is for use as a utility tool and it's applications a too numerable to list.


Yet if you even do a google search, you can see contradictory evidences.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:59 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ad hominems aside, if you have no research to substantiate your claims, then don't make claims.


If there ever comes a time when you have that power over me to dictate what i can or cannot do then, maybe then, yes ?

So, you publicly admit that your claims thus far have no actual research to support them? Good.

Ladies, gentlemen and genderqueer cuties, I think we can now, without any guilt, wholeheartedly dismiss any and every claim Shershah has made, and carry one with our lives knowing that homosexuality is not a disorder.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:00 pm

It's so funny to me when people talk about the backlash they get when they say something homophobic.

"You can't criticize gay people without being labeled the Devil incarnate."

I empathize, I do. I was once on the receiving end of some very vile backlash just for stating that I thought something was homophobic.

The question is, do you have the emotional capacity, even, to empathize with me?

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Postby Immoren » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:00 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ad hominems aside, if you have no research to substantiate your claims, then don't make claims.


If there ever comes a time when you have that power over me to dictate what i can or cannot do then, maybe then, yes ?


That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
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Postby GWACA » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:00 pm

Shershah wrote:
GWACA wrote:A dagger is a weapon and made to be used as a weapon it primarily for stabbing but also has (relatively) blunt cutting edges it is for killing mainly men.

A knife is a tool and made to be used as tool it is primarily for cutting but also has a (relatively) weak stabbing point it is for use as a utility tool and it's applications a too numerable to list.


Yet if you even do a google search, you can see contradictory evidences.


I mean with the exception of combat knives (which are entirely different in design and function from regular knives) everything I said is true.
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Postby Graknopia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:01 pm

Shershah wrote:
Graknopia wrote:Are you joking? Im in another thread where an anti-gay group qould love to fund this. I dont see any research concluding that it is a mental disease


"in the eyes of the sympathizers" my kind sir.

Then link me to a report showing that it is a mental illness
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Shershah wrote:
If there ever comes a time when you have that power over me to dictate what i can or cannot do then, maybe then, yes ?

So, you publicly admit that your claims thus far have no actual research to support them? Good.

Ladies, gentlemen and genderqueer cuties, I think we can now, without any guilt, wholeheartedly dismiss any and every claim Shershah has made, and carry one with our lives knowing that homosexuality is not a disorder.


More like what evidence i have are old because now-a-days very few dare.

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Postby Absurdity » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Shershah wrote:Buying some ?

Hahahahaha... no.

Seriously, though, I suggest you cut it with the red herrings and actually start providing peer-reviewed research that proves homosexuality is a disorder.

It is an abnormality, at the very least. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to even consider this possibility, given your post history and sig:

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:03 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:So, you publicly admit that your claims thus far have no actual research to support them? Good.

Ladies, gentlemen and genderqueer cuties, I think we can now, without any guilt, wholeheartedly dismiss any and every claim Shershah has made, and carry one with our lives knowing that homosexuality is not a disorder.


More like what evidence i have are old because now-a-days very few dare.

That's a fallacy, and the age of your evidence is irrelevant, since said "evidence" is also false.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:04 pm

Shershah wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
And it seems I have a better grasp of logic than you :)


Not really. Infact either you have no idea what you are talking about or you are dead wrong. On and off are the basic functions. The rest are based upon these and their combinations.


Okay, so what the fuck makes you think there are no complex functions for a single switch?

On and off are the basic functions, but you build a large enough circuit and you increase the number of chances the outcome will come true or false.

The basic switch, although it's 1 or 0, doesn't mean that the process to get it is always the same, it also doesn't mean that in complex systems it doesn't exist multiple outcomes for the same thing, or that there is no interdependence of complex switch systems.

Please, your attempts at trying to go par to par with someone who is into the computer field, trying to make things look like they are so simple and well-defined is fucking amazing. But please, do continue to amuse me with your technical expertise.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:04 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:So, you publicly admit that your claims thus far have no actual research to support them? Good.

Ladies, gentlemen and genderqueer cuties, I think we can now, without any guilt, wholeheartedly dismiss any and every claim Shershah has made, and carry one with our lives knowing that homosexuality is not a disorder.


More like what evidence i have are old because now-a-days very few dare.

I would try to explain to you the concept of scientific trial-and-error, but you're not paying me, so.

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Postby GWACA » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:04 pm

Lets say for the sake of argument that he is right, and homosexuality is a disorder... Then by his logic, wouldn't unique personalities also be a "disorder"?
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:05 pm

Graknopia wrote:
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"in the eyes of the sympathizers" my kind sir.

Then link me to a report showing that it is a mental illness


Already discussed. Please understand if i can't get back to everyone especially when their requests are the same and already dealt with.

The Truth and Light wrote:It's so funny to me when people talk about the backlash they get when they say something homophobic.

"You can't criticize gay people without being labeled the Devil incarnate."

I empathize, I do. I was once on the receiving end of some very vile backlash just for stating that I thought something was homophobic.

The question is, do you have the emotional capacity, even, to empathize with me?


Don't think so. I am not really someone known for their empathy. And for the record, i don't mind receiving the backlash. I am just pointing out that others might.

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Postby Graknopia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:05 pm

Absurdity wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hahahahaha... no.

Seriously, though, I suggest you cut it with the red herrings and actually start providing peer-reviewed research that proves homosexuality is a disorder.

It is an abnormality, at the very least. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to even consider this possibility, given your post history and sig:

A pansexual pantheist green liberal with secular humanist and communist tendencies

Eugh... *Shudders*

Its abnormal to societies current views. Certain groups do mot consider it abnormal
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Postby Immoren » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:05 pm

Absurdity wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hahahahaha... no.

Seriously, though, I suggest you cut it with the red herrings and actually start providing peer-reviewed research that proves homosexuality is a disorder.

It is an abnormality, at the very least. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to even consider this possibility, given your post history and sig:

A pansexual pantheist green liberal with secular humanist and communist tendencies

Eugh... *Shudders*


Define "abnormal", sweetie.
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Postby Atelia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:05 pm

Verdum wrote:Imagine me falling on my knees in the middle of a lecture after reading this and saying "...No."

Indeed. One more tear for me to shed.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:06 pm

Shershah wrote:Don't think so. I am not really someone known for their empathy. And for the record, i don't mind receiving the backlash. I am just pointing out that others might.

If you're not capable of relating to other people, maybe that explains why you're so fucking strapped for clues as to how they work.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:06 pm

Absurdity wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hahahahaha... no.

Seriously, though, I suggest you cut it with the red herrings and actually start providing peer-reviewed research that proves homosexuality is a disorder.

It is an abnormality, at the very least. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to even consider this possibility, given your post history and sig:

A pansexual pantheist green liberal with secular humanist and communist tendencies

Eugh... *Shudders*

Unnecessary statements about my character aside, homosexuality being an abnormality is relative to what you are speaking of when you speak of "norms". It would seem that, as of today, homosexuality matches the APA's criteria to be regarded as "normal".
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Postby Lithosano » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:06 pm

Absurdity wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hahahahaha... no.

Seriously, though, I suggest you cut it with the red herrings and actually start providing peer-reviewed research that proves homosexuality is a disorder.

It is an abnormality, at the very least. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to even consider this possibility, given your post history and sig:

A pansexual pantheist green liberal with secular humanist and communist tendencies

Eugh... *Shudders*


Except it really isn't all that abnormal at all. In fact, if you put stock into the work of Kinsey, bisexual is the default sexuality.
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:09 pm

Liriena wrote:
Shershah wrote:
More like what evidence i have are old because now-a-days very few dare.

That's a fallacy, and the age of your evidence is irrelevant, since said "evidence" is also false.


I don't consider it to be false. The only reason why there are disagreements is because of reasons like poli... yeah you know.

GWACA wrote:Lets say for the sake of argument that he is right, and homosexuality is a disorder... Then by his logic, wouldn't unique personalities also be a "disorder"?


If it was a trait shown by a very few minority then yes.

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Shershah wrote:
More like what evidence i have are old because now-a-days very few dare.

I would try to explain to you the concept of scientific trial-and-error, but you're not paying me, so.


I would try to explain to you the concept of "political correctness", but you're not paying me, so.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:09 pm

GWACA wrote:Lets say for the sake of argument that he is right, and homosexuality is a disorder... Then by his logic, wouldn't unique personalities also be a "disorder"?

If we're defining disorder as, "a characteristic that is statistically rare," then literacy is a disorder too.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:10 pm

Shershah wrote:
Graknopia wrote:Then link me to a report showing that it is a mental illness


Already discussed. Please understand if i can't get back to everyone especially when their requests are the same and already dealt with.


You discussed it but never gave any relevant proof, either logical or peer-reviewed, that may justify your belief.
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