Gay Weddings Legalized in....wait, Vietnam?

[Sun Wukong]

Again something not natural is simply just that, not natural or unnatural. It need not be destructive. You can keep on disagreeing, but it won't get you anywhere.

Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?

Because bigotry.

[Blasveck]

Something that is not natural IS destructive for the organism. Because it is not something we are wired or that nature is able to do. Therefore it destroys the organism or is adverse to it.

Again, homosexuality doesn't eat away at your body and is not adverse to the organism in a way that will kill them, therefore it is natural.

Again something not natural is simply just that, not natural or unnatural. It need not be destructive. You can keep on disagreeing, but it won't get you anywhere.

Everything that occurs within nature is therefore natural in the sense that it, well, occurs in nature. Homosexuality occurs in nature. The argument that it is unnatural is therefore invalid.

[Liriena]

So, you have no sources? Good to know. Thanks for wasting our time with your asinine ramblings.

You were under no obligations to reply. So you only have yourself to blame if it feels like you wasted your time.

Yet you only have yourself to blame for the atrocious quality of your posts.

[Shershah]

If you can't understand that social norms change, that's your problem, not mine. I mean, unless you feel that we should go back to a time when women gave up all their rights when married.

Otherwise, you're being downright silly.

I don't advocate change just for the sake of it and i don't see any other reason for those changes. And i am anti-feminist (or whatever the term is).

With how you define disease, i don't see any explanation to be of any use.

Buddy, an infection is not a disease. This is basic biology. You probably have herpes zoster living in you right now, but you have neither chickenpox nor shingles.

Stop using your own ignorance as a shield when confronted to an argument to which you have no answer.

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

Look at the current generation. Men are no longer men, women try to be men, nothing is sacred anymore and too much sympathizers and liberals. Maybe in the past or future i can provide the sources.

And since when this has been, by any stretch of the imagination abnormal?

And nothing is sacred, everything is permitted.

Always if you are asking me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

An infection is the process in which the virus/bacteria infiltrate the body and take over the host.

A disease is the accumulation total of symptoms that the takedown of your immune system causes.

Different things.

[Shershah]

Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?

Because it is a defect.

You were under no obligations to reply. So you only have yourself to blame if it feels like you wasted your time.

Yet you only have yourself to blame for the atrocious quality of your posts.

Subjective.

Again something not natural is simply just that, not natural or unnatural. It need not be destructive. You can keep on disagreeing, but it won't get you anywhere.

Everything that occurs within nature is therefore natural in the sense that it, well, occurs in natural. Homosexuality occurs in nature. That argument that it is unnatural is therefore invalid.

Looks like the confusion occured in the meaning of the word natural. There is more than one meaning you know ? and i don't mean "from/found in nature", more like "the norm".

[Sun Wukong]

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

Bio 101. Go to school.

[Shershah]

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

An infection is the process in which the virus/bacteria infiltrate the body and take over the host.

A disease is the accumulation total of symptoms that the takedown of your immune system causes.

Different things.

Look, all diseases are not infections but all infections are classified as diseases.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

Bio 101. Go to school.

I would say pathology 101.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

An infection is the process in which the virus/bacteria infiltrate the body and take over the host.

A disease is the accumulation total of symptoms that the takedown of your immune system causes.

Different things.

Look, all diseases are not infections but all infections are classified as diseases.

And I wasn't arguing that.

Your body can turn against itself and still be a disease. The disease are the symptoms, the cause is the process in which the body turns against itself.

[Shershah]

Look an infection is classified as a disease. I don't know where your learned otherwise or who taught you that and i don't want to know. I am going to just

Bio 101. Go to school.

Yes, i should have added that in my reply to you. Ty for pointing it out.

[Shershah]

Look, all diseases are not infections but all infections are classified as diseases.

And I wasn't arguing that.

Your body can turn against itself and still be a disease. The disease are the symptoms, the cause is the process in which the body turns against itself.

And where did i argue against that ?

[Blasveck]

Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?

Because it is a defect.

Yet you only have yourself to blame for the atrocious quality of your posts.

Subjective.

Everything that occurs within nature is therefore natural in the sense that it, well, occurs in natural. Homosexuality occurs in nature. That argument that it is unnatural is therefore invalid.

Looks like the confusion occured in the meaning of the word natural. There is more than one meaning you know ? and i don't mean "from/found in nature", more like "the norm".

And how do you determine what the norm is?

[Furious Grandmothers]

Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?

Because it is a defect.

What factors make it a defect?

[Liriena]

Yet you only have yourself to blame for the atrocious quality of your posts.

Subjective.

Regardless, do you have an actual source for your assertions?

[Sun Wukong]

An infection is the process in which the virus/bacteria infiltrate the body and take over the host.

A disease is the accumulation total of symptoms that the takedown of your immune system causes.

Different things.

Look, all diseases are not infections but all infections are classified as diseases.

No they're not. You probably have herpes zoster right now. That's an infection. Shingles is the disease. Do you have shingles?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And I wasn't arguing that.

Your body can turn against itself and still be a disease. The disease are the symptoms, the cause is the process in which the body turns against itself.

And where did i argue against that ?

infections are not diseases, they are the mechanism in which the disease happens, but not the disease itself.

You can have an organism like herpes living in your body, it doesn't count as a disease until you manifest the symptoms. We have plenty of harmful bacteria living in our bodies, but they are not a major concern until the immune system breaks down and the symptoms manifest, in which case we say "we are sick" or that people have a disease.

You have no clue about pathology as far as I can see.

[Rapidblaze]

Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?

Because it is a defect.

so because of this, we cannot leave them be even if they would like to? if yes, why?

[Shershah]

Because it is a defect.



Subjective.



Looks like the confusion occured in the meaning of the word natural. There is more than one meaning you know ? and i don't mean "from/found in nature", more like "the norm".

And how do you determine what the norm is?

The heart of the crocodile is the exception and not the norm in its taxonomic category yes ?
Apply that logic here and voila.

Or maybe just the common sense that you need to be attracted to the opposite sex (unless asexual reproduction or both sexes in the same organism or similar) to ensure the survivability of the species means heterosexuality is the norm ?

[Shershah]

And where did i argue against that ?

infections are not diseases, they are the mechanism in which the disease happens, but not the disease itself.

You can have an organism like herpes living in your body, it doesn't count as a disease until you manifest the symptoms. We have plenty of harmful bacteria living in our bodies, but they are not a major concern until the immune system breaks down and the symptoms manifest, in which case we say "we are sick" or that people have a disease.

You have no clue about pathology as far as I can see.

Is this sort of like how killings in war are not murder because "semantics" kind of argument ? If so i will pass ty.

[Sun Wukong]

And how do you determine what the norm is?

The heart of the crocodile is the exception and not the norm in its taxonomic category yes ?
Apply that logic here and voila.

Or maybe just the common sense that you need to be attracted to the opposite sex (unless asexual reproduction or both sexes in the same organism or similar) to ensure the survivability of the species means heterosexuality is the norm ?

Is not attracted to any sex, and neither are over 99% of her sisters. And yet her species is doing just fine.

[Blasveck]

And how do you determine what the norm is?

The heart of the crocodile is the exception and not the norm in its taxonomic category yes ?
Apply that logic here and voila.

Or maybe just the common sense that you need to be attracted to the opposite sex (unless asexual reproduction or both sexes in the same organism or similar) to ensure the survivability of the species means heterosexuality is the norm ?

And we have shown that the survival of the species as a whole is not predicated on the ability of every single member having the desire or ability to reproduce.

[Furious Grandmothers]

And how do you determine what the norm is?

The heart of the crocodile is the exception and not the norm in its taxonomic category yes ?
Apply that logic here and voila.

Or maybe just the common sense that you need to be attracted to the opposite sex (unless asexual reproduction or both sexes in the same organism or similar) to ensure the survivability of the species means heterosexuality is the norm ?

I won't go into a threadjack about the heart of crocodiles, but if homosexuality compliments heterosexuality in ensuring the survivability of the species, doesn't that make it part of the norm? Why or why not?

[Shershah]

Because it is a defect.

so because of this, we cannot leave them be even if they would like to? if yes, why?

Same question can be asked about the mentally ill.

[Sun Wukong]

infections are not diseases, they are the mechanism in which the disease happens, but not the disease itself.

You can have an organism like herpes living in your body, it doesn't count as a disease until you manifest the symptoms. We have plenty of harmful bacteria living in our bodies, but they are not a major concern until the immune system breaks down and the symptoms manifest, in which case we say "we are sick" or that people have a disease.

You have no clue about pathology as far as I can see.

Is this sort of like how killings in war are not murder because "semantics" kind of argument ? If so i will pass ty.

It's not a semantics argument, the words actually mean different things.

This is why the distinction between STD and STI is an important one. You can have an STI, and be contagious, and be entirely free of disease. And a lot of people are, and that's how a lot of these things get spread.