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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:25 pm

Liriena wrote:
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It is just common sense. That is all.

Paranoid delusions =/= Common sense


Ofcourse it isn't. That is also common sense. But i don't see how that is relevant.

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:25 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:Paranoid delusions =/= Common sense


Ofcourse it isn't. That is also common sense. But i don't see how that is relevant.

What's relevant is that you've not explained how it is a defect.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:26 pm

Shershah wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Which is why an infection is not a disease.


... alright. I see that arguing with you after this is of no use.

It's not. Take any 101 level collage biology course.

You're probably infected with several variants of Herpes right now. Do you feel sick?
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:26 pm

Liriena wrote:You aren't making any sense.


That is your fault if you can comprehend basic words and their meanings. Or if you are trying to be dense on purpose...

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:Paranoid delusions =/= Common sense


Ofcourse it isn't. That is also common sense. But i don't see how that is relevant.

There is not a single shred of common sense in claiming that the world's scientific community has been intimidated into recognizing homosexuality as anything but a disease. Claiming that something is "common sense" is a weak argument at best, and an act of intellectual laziness or cowardice at worst.

Provide reliable sources proving your claims.
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Shershah wrote:
Ofcourse it isn't. That is also common sense. But i don't see how that is relevant.

What's relevant is that you've not explained how it is a defect.


I have. Heterosexuality is the norm. Homosexuality is not. Having 4 limbs for a human is the norm, having 3 or 5 is a defect. I am not sure on what causes homosexuality yet as to pin point where the defect occurs. But hope that one day we can reverse it. :)

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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:29 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:You aren't making any sense.


That is your fault if you can comprehend basic words and their meanings. Or if you are trying to be dense on purpose...

I've noticed that, on the internet, when two people argue about which is inept in their use of language... usually it's the one who fails to capitalize "I."
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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:29 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:You aren't making any sense.


That is your fault if you can comprehend basic words and their meanings. Or if you are trying to be dense on purpose...

Pot, I'm not a kettle. I kindly suggest you stop resorting to red herrings.
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Political compass stuff:
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Liriena wrote:
Shershah wrote:
Ofcourse it isn't. That is also common sense. But i don't see how that is relevant.

There is not a single shred of common sense in claiming that the world's scientific community has been intimidated into recognizing homosexuality as anything but a disease. Claiming that something is "common sense" is a weak argument at best, and an act of intellectual laziness or cowardice at worst.

Provide reliable sources proving your claims.


Look at the current generation. Men are no longer men, women try to be men, nothing is sacred anymore and too much sympathizers and liberals. Maybe in the past or future i can provide the sources.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Shershah wrote:
Furious Grandmothers wrote:What's relevant is that you've not explained how it is a defect.


I have. Heterosexuality is the norm. Homosexuality is not. Having 4 limbs for a human is the norm, having 3 or 5 is a defect. I am not sure on what causes homosexuality yet as to pin point where the defect occurs. But hope that one day we can reverse it. :)

Abnormality =/= defect.

Look, for instance, my penis is unusually large. And yet, I feel under no obligation to get reductive surgery.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:31 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:There is not a single shred of common sense in claiming that the world's scientific community has been intimidated into recognizing homosexuality as anything but a disease. Claiming that something is "common sense" is a weak argument at best, and an act of intellectual laziness or cowardice at worst.

Provide reliable sources proving your claims.


Look at the current generation. Men are no longer men, women try to be men, nothing is sacred anymore and too much sympathizers and liberals. Maybe in the past or future i can provide the sources.

So, you have no sources? Good to know. Thanks for wasting our time with your asinine ramblings.
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Shershah wrote:
I have. Heterosexuality is the norm. Homosexuality is not. Having 4 limbs for a human is the norm, having 3 or 5 is a defect. I am not sure on what causes homosexuality yet as to pin point where the defect occurs. But hope that one day we can reverse it. :)

Abnormality =/= defect.

Look, for instance, my penis is usually large. And yet, I feel under no obligation to get reductive surgery.


yet if it looked like a rattle snake's tail ?

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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm

Liriena wrote:So, you have no sources? Good to know. Thanks for wasting our time with your asinine ramblings.


You were under no obligations to reply. So you only have yourself to blame if it feels like you wasted your time.

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:33 pm

Shershah wrote:
Furious Grandmothers wrote:What's relevant is that you've not explained how it is a defect.


I have. Heterosexuality is the norm. Homosexuality is not. Having 4 limbs for a human is the norm, having 3 or 5 is a defect. I am not sure on what causes homosexuality yet as to pin point where the defect occurs. But hope that one day we can reverse it. :)

I'm trying to understand your thought process. What does the term "norm" mean to you? If majority of humans are female, does that make being female the norm, and being male a defect? Explain what a norm is, and how it is different from a simple majority.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:33 pm

Shershah wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Abnormality =/= defect.

Look, for instance, my penis is usually large. And yet, I feel under no obligation to get reductive surgery.


yet if it looked like a rattle snake's tail ?

Yes, some abnormalities are defects, and some are not. You have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is a defect in any capacity. You just keep pointing out it's abnormal.
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:34 pm

Shershah wrote:
Liriena wrote:There is not a single shred of common sense in claiming that the world's scientific community has been intimidated into recognizing homosexuality as anything but a disease. Claiming that something is "common sense" is a weak argument at best, and an act of intellectual laziness or cowardice at worst.

Provide reliable sources proving your claims.


Look at the current generation. Men are no longer men, women try to be men, nothing is sacred anymore and too much sympathizers and liberals. Maybe in the past or future i can provide the sources.

Oh noes!

Social norms are changing!
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:Yes, some abnormalities are defects, and some are not. You have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is a defect in any capacity. You just keep pointing out it's abnormal.


With how you define disease, i don't see any explanation to be of any use.

Blasveck wrote:Oh noes!

Social norms are changing!


If a dystopia is your idea of perfect world then ofcourse have fun.

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Shershah wrote:
I have. Heterosexuality is the norm. Homosexuality is not. Having 4 limbs for a human is the norm, having 3 or 5 is a defect. I am not sure on what causes homosexuality yet as to pin point where the defect occurs. But hope that one day we can reverse it. :)

I'm trying to understand your thought process. What does the term "norm" mean to you? If majority of humans are female, does that make being female the norm, and being male a defect? Explain what a norm is, and how it is different from a simple majority.


Depends upon alot of factors and the ratio of majority to the minority.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:37 pm

Shershah wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Which is why an infection is not a disease.


... alright. I see that arguing with you after this is of no use.

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Not natural for the organism = destructive for the organism.

Homosexuality does not eat away at your body.


Not natural = unnatural. Fail logic there.


Something that is not natural IS destructive for the organism. Because it is not something we are wired or that nature is able to do. Therefore it destroys the organism or is adverse to it.

Again, homosexuality doesn't eat away at your body and is not adverse to the organism in a way that will kill them, therefore it is natural.
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:38 pm

Shershah wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Yes, some abnormalities are defects, and some are not. You have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is a defect in any capacity. You just keep pointing out it's abnormal.


With how you define disease, i don't see any explanation to be of any use.

Blasveck wrote:Oh noes!

Social norms are changing!


If a dystopia is your idea of perfect world then ofcourse have fun.

Furious Grandmothers wrote:I'm trying to understand your thought process. What does the term "norm" mean to you? If majority of humans are female, does that make being female the norm, and being male a defect? Explain what a norm is, and how it is different from a simple majority.


Depends upon alot of factors and the ratio of majority to the minority.

If you can't understand that social norms change, that's your problem, not mine. I mean, unless you feel that we should go back to a time when women gave up all their rights when married.

Otherwise, you're being downright silly.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:39 pm

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The Carlisle wrote:So only women are capable of cheating?


Yes.


I don't think you thought this one through.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:39 pm

Shershah wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Yes, some abnormalities are defects, and some are not. You have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is a defect in any capacity. You just keep pointing out it's abnormal.


With how you define disease, i don't see any explanation to be of any use.

Buddy, an infection is not a disease. This is basic biology. You probably have herpes zoster living in you right now, but you have neither chickenpox nor shingles.

Stop using your own ignorance as a shield when confronted to an argument to which you have no answer.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:40 pm

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Liriena wrote:There is not a single shred of common sense in claiming that the world's scientific community has been intimidated into recognizing homosexuality as anything but a disease. Claiming that something is "common sense" is a weak argument at best, and an act of intellectual laziness or cowardice at worst.

Provide reliable sources proving your claims.


Look at the current generation. Men are no longer men, women try to be men, nothing is sacred anymore and too much sympathizers and liberals. Maybe in the past or future i can provide the sources.


And since when this has been, by any stretch of the imagination abnormal?

And nothing is sacred, everything is permitted.
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... alright. I see that arguing with you after this is of no use.



Not natural = unnatural. Fail logic there.


Something that is not natural IS destructive for the organism. Because it is not something we are wired or that nature is able to do. Therefore it destroys the organism or is adverse to it.

Again, homosexuality doesn't eat away at your body and is not adverse to the organism in a way that will kill them, therefore it is natural.


Again something not natural is simply just that, not natural or unnatural. It need not be destructive. You can keep on disagreeing, but it won't get you anywhere.

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:41 pm

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Furious Grandmothers wrote:I'm trying to understand your thought process. What does the term "norm" mean to you? If majority of humans are female, does that make being female the norm, and being male a defect? Explain what a norm is, and how it is different from a simple majority.


Depends upon alot of factors and the ratio of majority to the minority.

Such as? Which are the factors making homosexuality a defect?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:41 pm

Shershah wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Something that is not natural IS destructive for the organism. Because it is not something we are wired or that nature is able to do. Therefore it destroys the organism or is adverse to it.

Again, homosexuality doesn't eat away at your body and is not adverse to the organism in a way that will kill them, therefore it is natural.


Again something not natural is simply just that, not natural or unnatural. It need not be destructive. You can keep on disagreeing, but it won't get you anywhere.


Then if it is not destructive, why do we need a cure for it?
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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